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Post by ChipChopChip » Fri Dec 18, 2015 3:15 pm

I am just wondering what kind of line people that are drafting Francisco Lindor in the 4th round are expecting. I would guess a line of .275 10 Hr 70 RBI 80 Runs scored and around 15 SB's. Marcus Semien could put up a similar stat line 10 rounds later.

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Re: Lindor

Post by ToddZ » Fri Dec 18, 2015 3:43 pm

I'm close on that line with more (24 or so) SB -- 4th too early for me, in consideration in 6th
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Re: Lindor

Post by ChipChopChip » Fri Dec 18, 2015 3:47 pm

If he steals 30 bags I have less of a problem with him being drafted in the 4th. I would be drafting Rougned Odor before Lindor myself. I think that Lindor may be getting drafted that high because of the Batting Average he put up last year.

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Re: Lindor

Post by ToddZ » Fri Dec 18, 2015 3:50 pm

to clarify..

24 SB total, not 24 more than 15

How much I like him depends if he stays in 2-hole -- not a sure thing but Indians are slow to move this off-season so it's hard to gauge.
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Re: Lindor

Post by Greg Ambrosius » Fri Dec 18, 2015 3:54 pm

ChipChopChip wrote:If he steals 30 bags I have less of a problem with him being drafted in the 4th. I would be drafting Rougned Odor before Lindor myself. I think that Lindor may be getting drafted that high because of the Batting Average he put up last year.
It's interesting to note that finding base stealers is tougher today than at anytime I can remember. Last year only 7 players had 30 or more Stolen Bases, down from 15 players the year before. Heck, in 2012 there were 23 players who stole 30 or more bases. The decline is real.

I agree that it will be tough for Lindor to hit .313 again, but if he can steal 30 bases and hit above .280 he will be that rare commodity that fantasy owners are looking for, especially at the shortstop position.
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Re: Lindor

Post by Bronx Yankees » Fri Dec 18, 2015 4:19 pm

Greg Ambrosius wrote:
ChipChopChip wrote:If he steals 30 bags I have less of a problem with him being drafted in the 4th. I would be drafting Rougned Odor before Lindor myself. I think that Lindor may be getting drafted that high because of the Batting Average he put up last year.
It's interesting to note that finding base stealers is tougher today than at anytime I can remember. Last year only 7 players had 30 or more Stolen Bases, down from 15 players the year before. Heck, in 2012 there were 23 players who stole 30 or more bases. The decline is real.

I agree that it will be tough for Lindor to hit .313 again, but if he can steal 30 bases and hit above .280 he will be that rare commodity that fantasy owners are looking for, especially at the shortstop position.
Good points. SBs definitely are tougher to come by these days. Also, now that I've done a few DCs, my initial enthusiasm about the SS position has waned. Yes, there now are some really exciting youngsters at or near the top of the pack, like Correa, Lindor and Seager, but if you don't pay the high cost of one of those guys, the rest of the choices really are kind of blah. I am not paying the high cost (at least as of now), but still am trying to figure out whether to go for a mid-level guy (are Elvis Andrus and Brandon Crawford really worth a pick in the first ten rounds?) or wait until the later rounds. You can't have studs at all positions and is a SS in Rounds 8-12 going to be that much better than an Asdrubal Cabrera or Didi Gregorius or Erick Aybar available at least ten rounds later? Ah, decisions, decisions.

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Re: Lindor

Post by Gekko » Fri Dec 18, 2015 4:44 pm

Stay line. Who knows at this point. Depends on if be stays in 2 hole as someone mentioned. If he does stay there, he will easily provide more value than correa, given current pricepoints

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Re: Lindor

Post by DOUGHBOYS » Fri Dec 18, 2015 4:53 pm

Stolen bases is the lure.
Every year in the minors, he has exceeded 20 stolen bases. He also made it look pretty easy last year in stealing 12 of 14 in 99 games. A better percentage than showed in the minors.
As Todd said, his spot in the order is vital. If even hitting .280, his final line could be .285/85/15/70/25

Statistics aside, he took to the Major Leagues as you'd want a rookie to.
He played hard and was seen with a smile on his face a lot.
He belonged.

As for Semien, he has a demon that Lindor does not have.
His glove.
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Re: Lindor

Post by Yah Mule » Fri Dec 18, 2015 5:21 pm

Bronx Yankees wrote:
Greg Ambrosius wrote:
ChipChopChip wrote:If he steals 30 bags I have less of a problem with him being drafted in the 4th. I would be drafting Rougned Odor before Lindor myself. I think that Lindor may be getting drafted that high because of the Batting Average he put up last year.
It's interesting to note that finding base stealers is tougher today than at anytime I can remember. Last year only 7 players had 30 or more Stolen Bases, down from 15 players the year before. Heck, in 2012 there were 23 players who stole 30 or more bases. The decline is real.

I agree that it will be tough for Lindor to hit .313 again, but if he can steal 30 bases and hit above .280 he will be that rare commodity that fantasy owners are looking for, especially at the shortstop position.
Good points. SBs definitely are tougher to come by these days. Also, now that I've done a few DCs, my initial enthusiasm about the SS position has waned. Yes, there now are some really exciting youngsters at or near the top of the pack, like Correa, Lindor and Seager, but if you don't pay the high cost of one of those guys, the rest of the choices really are kind of blah. I am not paying the high cost (at least as of now), but still am trying to figure out whether to go for a mid-level guy (are Elvis Andrus and Brandon Crawford really worth a pick in the first ten rounds?) or wait until the later rounds. You can't have studs at all positions and is a SS in Rounds 8-12 going to be that much better than an Asdrubal Cabrera or Didi Gregorius or Erick Aybar available at least ten rounds later? Ah, decisions, decisions.

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