Randy Johnson

Gordon Gekko · Post by **Gordon Gekko** » Tue Jan 16, 2007 12:01 am

Since I've said that B.Zito's ERA/WHIP should go down and his K's should go up simply because of moving to the NL (no more DH)...does that reasoning follow suit to Randy Johnson?

Chest Rockwell · Post by **Chest Rockwell** » Tue Jan 16, 2007 2:16 am

The Good news is I think it does with him, the bad news is that IMO they will still be barely respectable numbers.

He had success in that ballpark before because he missed bats- I expect him to miss even less bats in 2007.

Worse team behind him, much worse bullpen behind him, another year on that handsome body- buyer beware.

Most likely thing to happen in 2007-

a) Johnson strikes out 225

b) Johnson is voted one of people's 100 most beautiful people

c) Big Dog wins a dollar in the nfbc

i think the obvious answer is B

[ January 16, 2007, 08:38 AM: Message edited by: Chest Rockwell ]

Quahogs · Post by **Quahogs** » Tue Jan 16, 2007 2:29 am

Originally posted by Chest Rockwell:

Most likely thing to happen in 2007-

a) Johnson strikes out 225

b) Johnson is voted one of people's 1,000,000 most beautiful people

c) Big Dog wins a dollar in the nfbc

gotta go with A there Chest

Chest Rockwell · Post by **Chest Rockwell** » Tue Jan 16, 2007 2:33 am

Originally posted by Quahogs:

quote:Originally posted by Chest Rockwell:

Most likely thing to happen in 2007-

a) Johnson strikes out 225

b) Johnson is voted one of people's 1,000,000 most beautiful people

c) Big Dog wins a dollar in the nfbc

gotta go with A there Chest

[/QUOTE]No hard feelings Hog we agree to disagree on this one. I have a feeling in the end if everyone votes it will be 50/50 between a and b.

Quahogs · Post by **Quahogs** » Tue Jan 16, 2007 2:55 am

Originally posted by Chest Rockwell:

quote:Originally posted by Quahogs:

quote:Originally posted by Chest Rockwell:

Most likely thing to happen in 2007-

a) Johnson strikes out 225

b) Johnson is voted one of people's 1,000,000 most beautiful people

c) Big Dog wins a dollar in the nfbc

gotta go with A there Chest

[/QUOTE]No hard feelings Hog we agree to disagree on this one. I have a feeling in the end if everyone votes it will be 50/50 between a and b. [/QUOTE]lol, I played with your original quote there Chest, I guess I should have made it 10 million. I actually dont think he'll come close to 225 either.

Joe Sambito · Post by **Joe Sambito** » Tue Jan 16, 2007 3:10 am

C.

He may scalp his drink tickets...

Chest Rockwell · Post by **Chest Rockwell** » Tue Jan 16, 2007 3:18 am

Originally posted by Joe Sambito:

C.

He may scalp his drink tickets... See that is why Stevieland is so good at this event- he sees things we all miss. He knows that Lance Turbes aka sportsbettingman is coming back to Vegas in 07 and that will create a higher demand for drink tickets. Gotcha...

eddiejag · Post by **eddiejag** » Tue Jan 16, 2007 3:34 am

I see RANDY coming back to his old team a plus.

IF anything his era should drop at least a full point , and his whip is always good.If healthy , should get his 200 strike outs, or come close .

Maybe less wins , but ild take 12 to 14 wins with his other numbers.Could be a bargain in the 10th to 11th rounds.

Crazy Like a Fox · Post by **Crazy Like a Fox** » Tue Jan 16, 2007 9:24 am

I agree with Eddie Jag 100%. His wins will obviously hurt, but I also see atleast 1 to 1 1/2 run difference this year in e.r.a., somewhere between 3.50 to 4.00. 200+ strikeouts, he did have 270 strikeouts just 3 years ago, I don't think 200 is out of the question at all, I think it's very reasonable.

He also will be pitching with WAY less pressure which is a huge bonus in my book. If healthy, he will surprise most.

The funny thing is, people will discount him because of his age or 1 bad year but it's a reasonable expectation to expect good success in Arizona yet most have given up on him.

I would feel at total ease taking him in the 9th or 10th round. 3.50 e.r.a. - 12 wins - 200 K's - 1.10 whip, looks like an easy value pick as you're getting 7th round production for a 10th round price, that is if you agree with my projection.

Don't forget too that Webb busted out 18 wins last year pitching for Arizona so don't automatically think he can't surprise in the win category as well.

Quahogs · Post by **Quahogs** » Tue Jan 16, 2007 10:13 am

Originally posted by Big Dog:

Don't forget too that Webb busted out 18 wins last year pitching for Arizona so don't automatically think he can't surprise in the win category as well. Webb pitched well into the late innings (great sinker, low pitch count) so he hung around longer for that elusive W. Johnson was a 5-6 IP last season (cant see that changing) and was lucky to leave with an 8-4 lead that he usually tried to blow whenever he ran out there for the 7th inning.

Q

Gordon Gekko · Post by **Gordon Gekko** » Tue Jan 16, 2007 11:42 am

chest - what's the chances bjoak ends up with the Unit o his main event team

Chest Rockwell · Post by **Chest Rockwell** » Tue Jan 16, 2007 12:07 pm

Originally posted by Gordon Gekko:

chest - what's the chances bjoak ends up with the Unit o his main event team I hope if he does it is not too early- I will "Sheets" him up for a year. Brian is a good player I do not see him buying the move back to the NL as being a huge factor.

By the way obvious but good post on why it is not wise to make comparisons between Webb and Unit's win totals.

bjoak · Post by **bjoak** » Tue Jan 16, 2007 1:06 pm

Originally posted by Gordon Gekko:

chest - what's the chances bjoak ends up with the Unit o his main event team Unlikely. Not done with my homework on him, but I know he has trouble pitching out of the stretch and I believe that is a tangible concern in this case because of back problems. The dude also doesn't have cartilidge in his knees and as Chest noted, his league won't help him with those problems. He is also clearly in decline. Sorry, Big Dog, you don't just turn that ship around for no reason. His K/9 has gone down 4 of the last 5 years from 13.41 to 7.55. Going NL won't hurt his case for a spike this year, but it's not going to be a 10.62 rate and it's certainly not going to amount to 290 K's.

My system will probably like him, but there are a boatload of concerns right there and you have to account for everything.

Okay, now on to the important stuff--best face for radio: A. Johnson B. Schmidt C. Other

DiamondKing · Post by **DiamondKing** » Tue Jan 16, 2007 11:30 pm

C.Zane Smith D.Willie McGee

Chest Rockwell · Post by **Chest Rockwell** » Wed Jan 17, 2007 2:08 am

Originally posted by DiamondKing:

C.Zane Smith D.Willie McGee I actually usually have a team named Willie Mcgee is a handsome man-

How about Ron Karkovice

Edwards Kings · Post by **Edwards Kings** » Thu Jan 18, 2007 1:18 am

If we are going back a few years, then Rick Mahler...that man could curdle milk.

Chest Rockwell · Post by **Chest Rockwell** » Thu Jan 18, 2007 2:15 am

Originally posted by Edwards Kings:

If we are going back a few years, then Rick Mahler...that man could curdle milk. Wayne you should not speak ill of the dead- rest in peace Rick you sure were one great opening day pitcher. Check out Mahler's stats on opening day best ever.

Edwards Kings · Post by **Edwards Kings** » Thu Jan 18, 2007 3:25 am

Originally posted by Chest Rockwell:

quote:Originally posted by Edwards Kings:

If we are going back a few years, then Rick Mahler...that man could curdle milk. Wayne you should not speak ill of the dead- rest in peace Rick you sure were one great opening day pitcher. Check out Mahler's stats on opening day best ever. [/QUOTE]Geez...I feel like a schmuck...I forgot he had died.

And you are right...in April, no one could figure out his two or three curve balls. After that, he could get lit up like a gas can. I think he was on my team in '84 when he batted .290+ or something and was probably the best hitter on my team!