Kyle Schwarber

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Re: Kyle Schwarber

Post by DOUGHBOYS » Fri Apr 08, 2016 4:46 pm

COZ wrote:
DOUGHBOYS wrote:Catcher eligibility gone for next year....
Why? Doesn't it resort to prior year since he hasn't officially "qualified" at any position this year? I don't understand how he doesn't qualify after only 3 games this year, please explain.
Position most played if under 20 games.

9. Position Eligibility
The NFBC will use the following position eligibility rules in 2016:

a) Players who played at least 20 games at any position in 2015 will qualify at that position for the entire 2016 NFBC season. Players who play 10 games at a new position in 2016 will be eligible at that position after they have played there for the 10th time during the 2016 MLB regular season. Any player who missed all of the previous season to injury or retirement will qualify at the position he last was eligible for in the majors.

b) If a player did not appear in 20 games at any position, he qualifies at the one position he played most frequently the prior season in the majors.
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Re: Kyle Schwarber

Post by Gekko » Fri Apr 08, 2016 4:48 pm

COZ wrote:
DOUGHBOYS wrote:Catcher eligibility gone for next year....
Why? Doesn't it resort to prior year since he hasn't officially "qualified" at any position this year? I don't understand how he doesn't qualify after only 3 games this year, please explain.
according to baseball reference, he logged 2 games in OF and 0 at catcher. for nfbc purposes, he qualifies at the

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Re: Kyle Schwarber

Post by Fourslot40 » Fri Apr 08, 2016 6:08 pm

I hate it for the guy. I never understood why any MLB team thinks you can hide someone on the field at position with zero prior experience. Very unfortunate.

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Re: Kyle Schwarber

Post by BK METS » Fri Apr 08, 2016 8:30 pm

Can we finally just deem x-rays useless now? I mean, what is the point? "X-rays were negative." So, did they only X-ray the ankle? I know nothing about the entire process, although I understand x-rays look for broken bones and each stadium has an x-ray room where they can immediately examine someone, so its a quick way to know, but how many times have we seen x-rays negative and the next day, the guy is out for the year?

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Re: Kyle Schwarber

Post by Espnsc » Fri Apr 08, 2016 10:40 pm

BK METS wrote:Can we finally just deem x-rays useless now? I mean, what is the point? "X-rays were negative." So, did they only X-ray the ankle? I know nothing about the entire process, although I understand x-rays look for broken bones and each stadium has an x-ray room where they can immediately examine someone, so its a quick way to know, but how many times have we seen x-rays negative and the next day, the guy is out for the year?
X-rays are bones, MRIs are ligaments (ACL, MCL, LCL, etc)

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Re: Kyle Schwarber

Post by Bjs2025 » Sat Apr 09, 2016 5:48 am

I like how people act as if this is a team ruiner. I drafted Schwarber in the 2nd round of a satellite league and was projected to win the league going away after the draft. The projection system now has me barely missing first and finishing 2nd before I've even picked up a catcher. So I'm projected to almost win the league with a 13 man lineup currently.

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Re: Kyle Schwarber

Post by Gb2715 » Sat Apr 09, 2016 6:43 am

Bjs2025 wrote:I like how people act as if this is a team ruiner. I drafted Schwarber in the 2nd round of a satellite league and was projected to win the league going away after the draft. The projection system now has me barely missing first and finishing 2nd before I've even picked up a catcher. So I'm projected to almost win the league with a 13 man lineup currently.

I agree here and this is why I wouldn't draft a catcher that high. What were his realistic projections .250/25/70? Much rather pickup a catcher in the last Rd where there are 8-10 left that will give you .240/15/55. Spend that early Rd pick on an ace or a stud hitter which Schwarber is not. Now next year with only OF eligibility he is what a 10-12 Rd pick and I'm not sure I even take him that high even if he's 100% healthy.

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Re: Kyle Schwarber

Post by Gekko » Sat Apr 09, 2016 7:08 am

Bjs2025 wrote:I like how people act as if this is a team ruiner. I drafted Schwarber in the 2nd round of a satellite league and was projected to win the league going away after the draft. The projection system now has me barely missing first and finishing 2nd before I've even picked up a catcher. So I'm projected to almost win the league with a 13 man lineup currently.
"projection system". LOL

how come the websites, experts, etc that enter the NFBC get their ass handed to them most of the time. i wonder if they are using their own projection systems :lol:

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Re: Kyle Schwarber

Post by Bjs2025 » Sat Apr 09, 2016 8:49 am

Gekko wrote:
Bjs2025 wrote:I like how people act as if this is a team ruiner. I drafted Schwarber in the 2nd round of a satellite league and was projected to win the league going away after the draft. The projection system now has me barely missing first and finishing 2nd before I've even picked up a catcher. So I'm projected to almost win the league with a 13 man lineup currently.
"projection system". LOL

how come the websites, experts, etc that enter the NFBC get their ass handed to them most of the time. i wonder if they are using their own projection systems :lol:
Oh no, I don't think they don't use projections at all, I mean how do you justify paying $10 for Matt Moore or $45 for Carlos Correa if you're a reasonable person. If you use reasonable projections and draft accordingly you will attain the most potential value. I get people hate that word here but it's better than some "team construct" babble or the several misnomers of "don't draft a catcher in the 2nd round" "only reserve $60 for pitching" " this guy will break out because he's 27" Everyone wants to outsmart each other and that usually results in overpaying for Marcus Stroman and Michael Wacha.

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Re: Kyle Schwarber

Post by Gekko » Sat Apr 09, 2016 8:59 am

I'm saying projections are inherently unreliable. What if pitxher learned a new pitch, gained velocity, what about playing time issues for hitters? What kind of projections did industry experts have for Trevor story, nicasio etc. on Feb 1st?

I use to generate my own projections, then I stopped doing that years ago. Too time consuming and unreliable. There are FAR More important things to focus my limited time on

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Re: Kyle Schwarber

Post by Chthroop » Sat Apr 09, 2016 9:46 am

Ugh. Insane. One player on all 3 of my auctions: schwarber. I intentionally targeted because of less injury risk for a c elgible. Crushing

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Re: Kyle Schwarber

Post by Rog » Sat Apr 09, 2016 1:56 pm

Gb2715 wrote:
Bjs2025 wrote:I like how people act as if this is a team ruiner. I drafted Schwarber in the 2nd round of a satellite league and was projected to win the league going away after the draft. The projection system now has me barely missing first and finishing 2nd before I've even picked up a catcher. So I'm projected to almost win the league with a 13 man lineup currently.

I agree here and this is why I wouldn't draft a catcher that high. What were his realistic projections .250/25/70? Much rather pickup a catcher in the last Rd where there are 8-10 left that will give you .240/15/55. Spend that early Rd pick on an ace or a stud hitter which Schwarber is not. Now next year with only OF eligibility he is what a 10-12 Rd pick and I'm not sure I even take him that high even if he's 100% healthy.

Last year only 10 catchers hit 15 or more home runs
of those 10 only 6 of them hit above 240
7 of them had over 55 rbis
which of these were you getting in the last round
posey/martin/perez/vogt were the only 4 to all 3 of what you are asking.
mccann didnt hit 240
scwarber didnt have 55 rbis
castillo didnt hit 240
My buddy was asking me to help him with his espn draft the other day and when it was all over he said to me "really thanks for the help according to the espn projections I am in last place."
I just laughed and said could you imagine how easy this game would be if it were just that simple. :D

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Re: Kyle Schwarber

Post by Gb2715 » Sat Apr 09, 2016 2:48 pm

Rog wrote:
Gb2715 wrote:
Bjs2025 wrote:I like how people act as if this is a team ruiner. I drafted Schwarber in the 2nd round of a satellite league and was projected to win the league going away after the draft. The projection system now has me barely missing first and finishing 2nd before I've even picked up a catcher. So I'm projected to almost win the league with a 13 man lineup currently.

I agree here and this is why I wouldn't draft a catcher that high. What were his realistic projections .250/25/70? Much rather pickup a catcher in the last Rd where there are 8-10 left that will give you .240/15/55. Spend that early Rd pick on an ace or a stud hitter which Schwarber is not. Now next year with only OF eligibility he is what a 10-12 Rd pick and I'm not sure I even take him that high even if he's 100% healthy.

Last year only 10 catchers hit 15 or more home runs
of those 10 only 6 of them hit above 240
7 of them had over 55 rbis
which of these were you getting in the last round
posey/martin/perez/vogt were the only 4 to all 3 of what you are asking.
mccann didnt hit 240
scwarber didnt have 55 rbis
castillo didnt hit 240
My buddy was asking me to help him with his espn draft the other day and when it was all over he said to me "really thanks for the help according to the espn projections I am in last place."
I just laughed and said could you imagine how easy this game would be if it were just that simple. :D

Round about numbers my friend. Point is there are plenty of average killing catchers that will get you 10-15 Hrs and 50-70 Rbi. And please don't use Rbi's. Lol it's Rbi

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Re: Kyle Schwarber

Post by BK METS » Sat Apr 09, 2016 3:36 pm

Bjs2025 wrote:I like how people act as if this is a team ruiner. I drafted Schwarber in the 2nd round of a satellite league and was projected to win the league going away after the draft. The projection system now has me barely missing first and finishing 2nd before I've even picked up a catcher. So I'm projected to almost win the league with a 13 man lineup currently.

I agree here and this is why I wouldn't draft a catcher that high. What were his realistic projections .250/25/70? Much rather pickup a catcher in the last Rd where there are 8-10 left that will give you .240/15/55. Spend that early Rd pick on an ace or a stud hitter which Schwarber is not. Now next year with only OF eligibility he is what a 10-12 Rd pick and I'm not sure I even take him that high even if he's 100% healthy.[/quote]


Last year only 10 catchers hit 15 or more home runs
of those 10 only 6 of them hit above 240
7 of them had over 55 rbis
which of these were you getting in the last round
posey/martin/perez/vogt were the only 4 to all 3 of what you are asking.
mccann didnt hit 240
scwarber didnt have 55 rbis
castillo didnt hit 240
My buddy was asking me to help him with his espn draft the other day and when it was all over he said to me "really thanks for the help according to the espn projections I am in last place."
I just laughed and said could you imagine how easy this game would be if it were just that simple. :D[/quote]


Round about numbers my friend. Point is there are plenty of average killing catchers that will get you 10-15 Hrs and 50-70 Rbi. And please don't use Rbi's. Lol it's Rbi[/quote]

The guy that doesn't use one complete sentence, is correcting grammar. :lol:

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