What We Have Here Is A Failure.....

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What We Have Here Is A Failure.....

Post by DOUGHBOYS » Thu May 26, 2016 9:02 am

I have never seen a bad baseball movie. My wife reminds me of some of the poorly acted films (yeah you, William Bendix) and some others that had no grit or depth to them.
I don't care.
They're about baseball.
I never saw a bad Ann-Margret movie as well. Any time I can see her on screen, it's worth the money.
We all have our perks and quirks.
Kevin Costner is a favorite actor of mine because he does portray baseball players so well. Any time I'm channel surfing and see 'Field of Dreams', my wife knows we're watching it (again) to its conclusion.

Costner made a movie called 'Water World'. I don't think I saw it. I am the opposite of these movie buffs who repeat lines from movies. For me, unless the movie made a deep impression on my soul, it is completely forgotten.
Anyway, Costner made 'WaterWorld' and it was a complete flop. The critics hated it. Siskel and Ebert hated it. Movie goers hated it.
A complete and colossal waste of money.

(Movie trivia quiz- What 'actor' in a starring role, made at least 15 movies, and never had one lose money?
Answer at the bottom of this post)

In a way, NFBC owners are a little like Costner. We have things we do that we are really proud of, but we remember our failings as well.
We learn from these mistakes.
We'll tell ourselves that we'll choose more N.L. pitchers over A.L. or even decide to not draft a certain player or players ever again.
We'll do anything to avoid our own 'WaterWorld'.

One owner said that he liked 'Cutline' games more than others because he didn't have to make the decision in which players would be benched on his team.
Understood.
In effect, he wants 'WaterWorld' chances taken away completely.
To me, this is like having a vickrey system for faab.
Failing is taken out of the equation.
But damn, if not for failing, we have lost the spirit of our game, haven't we?
Leaving stats on our bench is a horrible feeling.
I get that. It also tells me that my team is fairly powerful. Some teams don't have the luxory of having ANY stats on their bench.
In 12 teamers, we get used to the idea of leaving stats on our bench.
But still, failure is hard for some to handle and they want it out of their hands.

Stats on our bench is strictly a fantasy problem.
Can you imagine if a real life Manager benched ('rested') a Star for the day and the papers revealed the next day that that Star would have set an MLB record by hitting five homers?
The backlash would be incredible from his bosses, to the fans, and to that Star.
Fortunately, they don't have to live under that pressure.
We do.
And I love it.

In a Main Event team, I benched Brandon Crawford earlier. He got a homer and five rbi in one of those games.
Of course, I felt like a heel.
But feeling like a heel is part of the game.
I don't want a game to be all sunshine and roses and candy!
Invite failure!
It makes succeeding so much the sweeter!

To that player who prefers Cutline because of the bench points.
I understand.
But understand that EVERYBODY is making bad decisions. Not just you.
Not inviting that failure is part of the wussification of America.
Kevin Costner made WaterWorld. Most everybody knows it.
His failure, seen by millions.
Who we benched and got wrong in a week, is mostly seen by one person, US! No big deal.
I can live with my mistakes.
After making 1,373,884.664 mistakes in my life, lineup mistakes are a piece of cake!

Having a computer take our best lineup is good for some.
I get that.
It's all under the fantasy baseball umbrella.
And like baseball movies, I feel there is not a bad fantasy baseball league.
However, I do prefer mine fraught with failures.
If removing those failures, I picture winning a ribbon.
If enhancing those failures and still winning, I picture Ann-Margret at the finish line with a hug and kiss and my check.

(The answer to the trivia question is Elvis. Elvis made few good movies. But was so incredibly popular that every movie made a lot of money)
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Wait! I never had the perfect draft!

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Re: What We Have Here Is A Failure.....

Post by Edwards Kings » Thu May 26, 2016 12:25 pm

Great post. You truly are our Strother Martin...

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Now, not your favorite, but certainly memorable...Joy Harmon...

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After seeing this movie, I could not pass a car wash without having a serious emotional connection...
Baseball is a slow, boring, complex, cerebral game that doesn't lend itself to histrionics. You 'take in' a baseball game, something odd to say about a football or basketball game, with the clock running and the bodies flying.
Charles Krauthammer

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Re: What We Have Here Is A Failure.....

Post by KJ Duke » Thu May 26, 2016 2:36 pm

Reasonable viewpoint, Dan.

Looking at a different way :D ... Lineup decisions introduce a lot of randomness ... Nicasio tosses a shutout against a high-powered offense one week and gets lit up by the Braves the next ... a bit like day-trading, rather than investing. Does that make it harder in a skill sense, or just more frustrating?

Meanwhile, the removal of such randomness puts the focus on good research/good drafting/good investing. I wouldn't want all FB to be like the cutline, but I do like it as a variant that puts the emphasis on a narrower skill-set (drafting and preseason research).

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Re: What We Have Here Is A Failure.....

Post by DOUGHBOYS » Thu May 26, 2016 2:44 pm

Understood.
I like both concepts.
As said, there are no bad fantasy leagues :D
Still, I'd rather here about time constraints or a concept favored in the Cutline, rather than the fear of failure in putting out a lineup.
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Re: What We Have Here Is A Failure.....

Post by Quahogs » Thu May 26, 2016 2:48 pm

.. to COMMUNICATE ?? You flopping bunch of Abbot and Costello skit bumbling twits

Mouse in the only 2 ME's I have and Mouse PLUS Gordon in a decent(was) cutline. Simply ACES !

..sorry for the hijack Dan :cry:
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Re: What We Have Here Is A Failure.....

Post by DOUGHBOYS » Thu May 26, 2016 2:51 pm

Quahogs wrote:.. to COMMUNICATE ?? You flopping bunch of Abbot and Costello skit bumbling twits

Mouse in the only 2 ME's I have and Mouse PLUS Gordon in a decent(was) cutline. Simply ACES !

..sorry for the hijack Dan :cry:
Hijack away, Steve!
Always good hearing your stuff :D
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Re: What We Have Here Is A Failure.....

Post by KJ Duke » Thu May 26, 2016 3:13 pm

Quahogs wrote:.. to COMMUNICATE ?? You flopping bunch of Abbot and Costello skit bumbling twits

Mouse in the only 2 ME's I have and Mouse PLUS Gordon in a decent(was) cutline. Simply ACES !

..sorry for the hijack Dan :cry:
Shame on you for not drafting fatter, slower 3Bs and OFers that couldn't reach the stands! :mrgreen:

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Re: What We Have Here Is A Failure.....

Post by Quahogs » Thu May 26, 2016 3:42 pm

Kung Pao Panda and Bull Luzinski types from now on. No way they bust after a high can o corn unless it's creamed !

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Re: What We Have Here Is A Failure.....

Post by Edwards Kings » Thu May 26, 2016 5:18 pm

It has been a brutal week for the DL list and Wayne Edwards wins the Captain Obvious Award for the Week!
Baseball is a slow, boring, complex, cerebral game that doesn't lend itself to histrionics. You 'take in' a baseball game, something odd to say about a football or basketball game, with the clock running and the bodies flying.
Charles Krauthammer

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