Draft Day Question: Last 10 Rounds

Greg Ambrosius · Post by **Greg Ambrosius** » Wed Mar 28, 2007 3:36 am

Okay, this is a question for everyone who has competed in an NFBC draft this year: What strategy did you use for your LAST 10 picks? Did you try to handcuff certain players from your earlier picks? Did you go for prospects who could blossom later in the season? Did you grab unwanted veterans who still had value? Or did you just go with the flow as the beers kicked in?

Everyone has unique strategies for the early rounds, but what about the last part of the draft? What was your strategy and can you reveal it to the baseball world? Let's hear about it.

ALL-IN JD · Post by **ALL-IN JD** » Wed Mar 28, 2007 3:57 am

Mine was to grab solid middle relievers who i thought that at sometime during the season, either by injury or by poor performance from the closer, would possibly become the closer. My other was to grab young upside guys playing behind aging veterans or ijury prone players (i.e., i drafted Milledge in alot of leagues because I think Shawn Green is finished)

headhunters · Post by **headhunters** » Wed Mar 28, 2007 4:18 am

i did all of those. hey- it's 10 picks

WOOF WHACKERS · Post by **WOOF WHACKERS** » Wed Mar 28, 2007 4:53 am

Greg .... I call it the " Build and Fill " strategy. In the past I have frequently reached for players to early, so this time I took the BPL ( Best Player available ) in the 1st 20 rounds and then in the last 10 rounds Filled the rest of my line-up with those Players that fell through the cracks. I was pleasantly surprised to see how many " Value Picks " fell to those later rounds. I tried to go with " Proven Value " in the first 20 rounds and " Potential Value " in the last 10 rounds. By doing this , reduced my risk to reward ratio significantly. First 4 picks were.... Guerrero, Manny, C. Patterson and V. Martinez ........ in the last 10 rounds I was able to gamble on 2 Rookie Pitchers ( Pelfrey and Baily ) and still get 2 veteran pitchers that I think fell way to low, ( Woody Williams and Mike Hampton )..!I would be willing to print my draft if U want to see the whole thing and comment on it.

chimpat · Post by **chimpat** » Wed Mar 28, 2007 4:55 am

We try to take chances in those late rounds on guys that might have some upside. Historically we've had some great luck with really late picks, we got Sizemore a few years back, Laroche, Huston Street, etc.

This year we took guys like Josh Hamilton, Greinke, Eric Reed, Brian Wilson, etc. Sometimes guys ar total busts but you're going to need to drop a guy here or there so it's worth a shot.

Too bad Eric Reed just got sent to AAA this morning, ugh.

Edwards Kings · Post by **Edwards Kings** » Wed Mar 28, 2007 5:57 am

All of the above, but I guess the slant is fill with players who may have been overlooked/undervalued but can help in specific categories (Youkilis and Runs, El Duque and strikeouts), or have upside given their age/experience even though they may not have produced peak results yet (Gorzelanny, Francis). I also look for injury returns that may be able to produce, even over a short term (Eaton, Cliff Floyd) and outright gambles if they get full time jobs that can impact NFBC categories (German and Cla Meridith).

A mixed bag.

Quahogs · Post by **Quahogs** » Wed Mar 28, 2007 6:15 am

I end up doing what I did in school during the end of my tests.. doodle, stare at the clock and SWEAR I'll study more next time

Q

headhunters · Post by **headhunters** » Wed Mar 28, 2007 6:31 am

woof- good luck in our league. that "build and fill" with patterson in the 3rd allowed carpenter to fall to me at pick 45. he'll probably get hurt because i never, ever thought he would be there at pick 45. who were your 2 "placeholders" ?. also you took pelfry with pick 19. a nice pick either way.

WOOF WHACKERS · Post by **WOOF WHACKERS** » Wed Mar 28, 2007 6:44 am

Good eye Hunter.... I did reach a round early for Pelfry, but he was the one sleeper I couldn't wait on any longer. As far as Patterson, what was his ADP by the way..? and my 2 place holders ended up being Hinske and Hamilton. But I did get Josh Johnson ( sp ) Late, why do you think he slid so far down..??

Cooperstown · Post by **Cooperstown** » Wed Mar 28, 2007 6:49 am

My strategy was to go after high upside guys that may not start right away and also to get lucky on some closers in waiting.

However, I was pleasantly suprised to get Uribe and Marte in the bottom 10 which just goes to show you that you shouldn't rely 100% on whatever strategy you decide.

I still managed to get Kemp, Hughes, A Miller and Sanchez as my high upside guys. And Wilson and Tankersley as my closer hopeful guys.

My only regret was pick 30 where I decided between M Izturis and Jason Lane. But I had to have 1 homer pick.

Oh well, the perfect draft still eludes me.

King of Queens · Post by **King of Queens** » Wed Mar 28, 2007 6:51 am

Originally posted by WOOF WHACKERS:

But I did get Josh Johnson ( sp ) Late, why do you think he slid so far down..?? Might have something to do with his being out until June.

King of Queens · Post by **King of Queens** » Wed Mar 28, 2007 6:53 am

Originally posted by Greg Ambrosius:

What strategy did you use for your LAST 10 picks? Same strategy I used for the first 20 picks:

Value

Value

Value

WOOF WHACKERS · Post by **WOOF WHACKERS** » Wed Mar 28, 2007 7:01 am

My Bad....Didn't get that memo..., but, I still may have taken him at that point, considering who was left.

WOOF WHACKERS · Post by **WOOF WHACKERS** » Wed Mar 28, 2007 7:03 am

Alright Boys, here's the whole Kit and Caboodle, give me the good bad and the ugly...Final Roster

Pos Name Team Pick

C Victor Martinez CLE R4 P4 Comment

C A.J. Pierzynski CHW R13 P12 Comment

1B Todd Helton COL R7 P12 Comment

1B Nick Johnson WAS R14 P4 Comment

2B Brandon Phillips CIN R6 P4 Comment

2B Jose Lopez SEA R16 P4 Comment

SS Edgar Renteria ATL R5 P12 Comment

3B Mark Teahen KC R8 P4 Comment

OF Vladimir Guerrero ANA R1 P12 Comment

OF Manny Ramirez BOS R2 P4 Comment

OF Corey Patterson BAL R3 P12 Comment

OF Brian Giles SD R15 P12 Comment

OF Andre Ethier LA R17 P12 Comment

OF Wily Mo Pena BOS R25 P12 Comment

OF Matt Kemp LA R28 P4 Comment

OF OF Placeholder FA R29 P12 Comment

P Chris Ray BAL R9 P12 Comment

P Randy Johnson ARI R10 P4 Comment

P Dontrelle Willis FLA R11 P12 Comment

P Akinori Otsuka TEX R12 P4 Comment

P Mike Gonzalez ATL R18 P4 Comment

P Mike Pelfrey NYM R19 P12 Comment

P Tom Glavine NYM R20 P4 Comment

P Jesse Crain MIN R21 P12 Comment

P Justin Duchscherer OAK R22 P4 Comment

P Eddie Guardado CIN R23 P12 Comment

P Homer Bailey CIN R24 P4 Comment

P Josh Johnson FLA R26 P4 Comment

P Woody Williams HOU R27 P12 Comment

P P Placeholder FA R30 P4 Comment

Copyright © 2001-2007 Mock Draft Central, LLC

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The Phoenix · Post by **The Phoenix** » Wed Mar 28, 2007 7:06 am

woof,

I believe your placeholders were Hinske and Hampton. Not Hamilton. Hamilton was gone in the 27th.

I remember reading Hampton in the chat box.

King of Queens · Post by **King of Queens** » Wed Mar 28, 2007 7:16 am

Originally posted by WOOF WHACKERS:

Alright Boys, here's the whole Kit and Caboodle, give me the good bad and the ugly...Final Roster

Pos Name Team Pick

C Victor Martinez CLE R4 P4 Comment

C A.J. Pierzynski CHW R13 P12 Comment

1B Todd Helton COL R7 P12 Comment

1B Nick Johnson WAS R14 P4 Comment

2B Brandon Phillips CIN R6 P4 Comment

2B Jose Lopez SEA R16 P4 Comment

SS Edgar Renteria ATL R5 P12 Comment

3B Mark Teahen KC R8 P4 Comment

OF Vladimir Guerrero ANA R1 P12 Comment

OF Manny Ramirez BOS R2 P4 Comment

OF Corey Patterson BAL R3 P12 Comment

OF Brian Giles SD R15 P12 Comment

OF Andre Ethier LA R17 P12 Comment

OF Wily Mo Pena BOS R25 P12 Comment

OF Matt Kemp LA R28 P4 Comment

OF OF Placeholder FA R29 P12 Comment

P Chris Ray BAL R9 P12 Comment

P Randy Johnson ARI R10 P4 Comment

P Dontrelle Willis FLA R11 P12 Comment

P Akinori Otsuka TEX R12 P4 Comment

P Mike Gonzalez ATL R18 P4 Comment

P Mike Pelfrey NYM R19 P12 Comment

P Tom Glavine NYM R20 P4 Comment

P Jesse Crain MIN R21 P12 Comment

P Justin Duchscherer OAK R22 P4 Comment

P Eddie Guardado CIN R23 P12 Comment

P Homer Bailey CIN R24 P4 Comment

P Josh Johnson FLA R26 P4 Comment

P Woody Williams HOU R27 P12 Comment

P P Placeholder FA R30 P4 Comment

Copyright © 2001-2007 Mock Draft Central, LLC

.... Well, I like your catchers. After that...

Corey Patterson (3rd) and Edgar Renteria (5th) are AT LEAST 3 rounds too soon -- tough to win when you're passing up early-round talent.

Also, Nick Johnson, Josh Johnson and Eddie Guardado are out for a lengthy period of time. Are you really going to hold onto these guys until they come back?

I hope your placeholders are Alfonso Soriano and Johan Santana!

WOOF WHACKERS · Post by **WOOF WHACKERS** » Wed Mar 28, 2007 7:28 am

Yeah it was Hampton. and King your a very funny man, " I like your catchers after that..... ", very funny. 30 picks , 3 on the Red Cross.... I hope that's the worst of my problem this season...lol..! You have to figure the last 3 or 4 picks of your draft will be free agent meat in the 1st month alone. BTW, whats team look like..?

WOOF WHACKERS · Post by **WOOF WHACKERS** » Wed Mar 28, 2007 7:29 am

That was ..... Whats Your Team look like...??

Chest Rockwell · Post by **Chest Rockwell** » Wed Mar 28, 2007 7:43 am

Man- woof whackers I am glad I did not see that team right before bed time, I would have to leave the night light on.

What KOQ said on Patterson etc, and that pitching could be really bad, probably were better choices than Vlad and Manny at one and two also.

WOOF WHACKERS · Post by **WOOF WHACKERS** » Wed Mar 28, 2007 7:58 am

You guys are Hilarious, Alright enough from the peanut gallery, when can I here from the " Experts " ..? lol

Hobo Zeke · Post by **Hobo Zeke** » Wed Mar 28, 2007 10:34 am

I am not an expert. But if the experts say your team is bad, I will have to agree.

nydownunder · Post by **nydownunder** » Wed Mar 28, 2007 12:11 pm

Greg,

1. Avoid clogging my roster with AAA bound highly touted prospects

2. Fill Middle Infield Gaps

3. Don't reach for SP (let them come to you)

4. Grab potnetially high upside Batters (Kubel, Baker, Lane)

5. take a chance or two on some MRP's

Nutty Scrats · Post by **Nutty Scrats** » Wed Mar 28, 2007 12:36 pm

To avoid calling out players that were all ready call out!!!! LOL

(Well at least until the last 2 - 3 rounds where it would be somewhat understandable! LOL )

Quahogs · Post by **Quahogs** » Wed Mar 28, 2007 2:00 pm

Originally posted by WOOF WHACKERS:

You guys are Hilarious, Alright enough from the peanut gallery, when can I here from the " Experts " ..? lol ida know woof, looks like you just got "simon"ized. And like Cowell, those two know what they're talking about

Q

nydownunder · Post by **nydownunder** » Wed Mar 28, 2007 2:23 pm

Whoof,

The Good - your weren't aloud 2 3rd Rd picks

The Bad - Double AA players weren't eligible to give you a better chance

The Ugly - you may receive a lifetime suspension from all future NFBC competitions