Reynolds, Mark 3B ARI

Gordon Gekko · Post by **Gordon Gekko** » Sun May 20, 2007 2:51 pm

Originally posted by SluggoJD:

You're a liar Gekko!

THERE IS ONLY ONE PERSON NAMED CUST IN MLB.

When you search on "cust" it immediately goes to his profile page. His profile page showed OF 2 weeks ago, and still does.

If there was more than one person named "Cust," then the search would take you to a page showing everyone with that name, and a position next to their name.

BUT YOU DID NOT SEE THIS KIND OF PAGE, BECAUSE THERE IS ONLY ONE PLAYER NAMED "CUST." AND FOR YOU TO CLAIM THAT THIS IS WHAT YOU SAW IS A DOWNRIGHT LIE.

It's not like Reynolds at all - where you now want us all to believe that you searched on the name Reynolds, it popped up with 2 people named Reynolds, and since "Mark" had 3B listed at that point, you just went ahead and bid on him WITHOUT GOING TO HIS PROFILE PAGE AND NOTICING THAT 3B WAS NOT LISTED BY HIS NAME. And of course, you didn't email anyone either. i don't search by names. i search by using the utility function. cust had DH next to his name.

in any event, that's really moot at this point. the fact is that by applying the rules and precedent set by the nfbc, cust HAS to be switched to DH only. that is the only correct call to make.

[ May 20, 2007, 10:19 PM: Message edited by: Gordon Gekko ]

The Maine Thread · Post by **The Maine Thread** » Sun May 20, 2007 2:52 pm

Just for what it's worth, I too was in need of a CI this week, and wanted Reynolds. When I pulled up the CI's on the FA list I can guarantee he wasn't there.

I did a search on him and 3b was not an eligible position for him, but I cannot recall what position it had for him. If he was available for 3b I too would have bid on him.

Gordon Gekko · Post by **Gordon Gekko** » Sun May 20, 2007 2:53 pm

Originally posted by SluggoJD:

Deleted. sorry, i'm too fast for you. i copied the post where you called me a liar.

sportsbettingman · Post by **sportsbettingman** » Sun May 20, 2007 2:54 pm

Originally posted by King of Queens:

While it is true that STATS had Mark Reynolds listed only at Shortstop this week, I believe this was incorrectly listed. The rules for minor leaguers are as follows:

"Any minor-leaguer who didn't play any games in the majors in 2006 and who starts the 2007 season in the minors will earn position eligibility for 2007 based on his minor-league games played total in 2006 and he will earn other position eligibility after he plays 10 games at a different position in the majors."

I checked Mark Reynolds games played by position for 2006. Here's what I found:

Lancaster (A+)

1B - 2 games

2B - 13 games

3B - 15 games

SS - 25 games

OF - 6 games

DH - 10 games

Tennessee (AA)

2B - 9 games

3B - 7 games

OF - 12 games

DH - 2 games

TOTALS

1B - 2 games

2B - 22 games

3B - 22 games

SS - 25 games

OF - 18 games

DH - 12 games

Based on this information, and the NFBC 2007 Rules, Mark Reynolds should attain additional position eligibility at 2B and 3B--immediately. Do minor leaguers EVER get multi position credit before playing in the MLB???

If they give only one position before playing in the major leagues...they would go with majority.

SS is his majority position in the minors in 2006.

~Lance

SluggoJD · Post by **SluggoJD** » Sun May 20, 2007 2:54 pm

Gekko has Mark Teahen.

Searching on "TE" it shows Teahen as an OF.

Gekko is playing him at 3B.

Teahen has not appeared at 3B this year.

One would think, if they were pretending to be Gekko pretending to be a victim, that Teahen could only play at OF.

And yet, Gekko plays him at 3B.

Judge, I rest my case.

SluggoJD · Post by **SluggoJD** » Sun May 20, 2007 2:54 pm

You ARE a liar!

SluggoJD · Post by **SluggoJD** » Sun May 20, 2007 2:57 pm

And using Gekko's fake victim logic, perhaps Gekko should lose all stats that Teahen has accumulated at the 3B position, since Gekko's sudden way of searching for players shows Teahen at OF, not 3B.

CC's Desperados · Post by **CC's Desperados** » Sun May 20, 2007 2:59 pm

Originally posted by King of Queens:

While it is true that STATS had Mark Reynolds listed only at Shortstop this week, I believe this was incorrectly listed. The rules for minor leaguers are as follows:

"Any minor-leaguer who didn't play any games in the majors in 2006 and who starts the 2007 season in the minors will earn position eligibility for 2007 based on his minor-league games played total in 2006 and he will earn other position eligibility after he plays 10 games at a different position in the majors."

I checked Mark Reynolds games played by position for 2006. Here's what I found:

Lancaster (A+)

1B - 2 games

2B - 13 games

3B - 15 games

SS - 25 games

OF - 6 games

DH - 10 games

Tennessee (AA)

2B - 9 games

3B - 7 games

OF - 12 games

DH - 2 games

TOTALS

1B - 2 games

2B - 22 games

3B - 22 games

SS - 25 games

OF - 18 games

DH - 12 games

Based on this information, and the NFBC 2007 Rules, Mark Reynolds should attain additional position eligibility at 2B and 3B--immediately. A player may be assigned to any position at which he appeared in 20 or more major league games in the preceding season. If a player did not appear in 20 or more games at a single position he may be drafted only at the position at which he appeared most frequently. DH is a position for these purposes. A player who only qualifies as a DH may only be assigned to the DH position. Games played will be determined from Fantasy Sports Magazine. If a player did not appear the prior season in the majors he qualifies at the position he played most frequently the prior season in any league(s) he played in. If a player sat out the last year for any reason these rules apply to the last season in which he played professional baseball. The 20 games/most games is only used to determine the positions at which a player may be drafted.

CC's Desperados · Post by **CC's Desperados** » Sun May 20, 2007 3:03 pm

Originally posted by King of Queens:

Please keep the focus of this thread on Mark Reynolds. I picked him up in New York League 1 today, and I would like to start him at 3B this upcoming week.

If my numbers are correct, this needs to get resolved ASAP. I know that it's Sunday night and Greg is travelling today, but perhaps this could get addressed tomorrow morning. This really sound self motivated....It sound like you don't care if it is right as long as you get to play him at third. It also sound like you didn't know he was short only.

King of Queens · Post by **King of Queens** » Sun May 20, 2007 3:07 pm

Originally posted by CC's Desperados:

quote:Originally posted by King of Queens:

Please keep the focus of this thread on Mark Reynolds. I picked him up in New York League 1 today, and I would like to start him at 3B this upcoming week.

If my numbers are correct, this needs to get resolved ASAP. I know that it's Sunday night and Greg is travelling today, but perhaps this could get addressed tomorrow morning. This really sound self motivated....It sound like you don't care if it is right as long as you get to play him at third. It also sound like you didn't know he was short only. [/QUOTE]You tell me, Shawn. Am I applying the rules properly?

sportsbettingman · Post by **sportsbettingman** » Sun May 20, 2007 3:09 pm

Originally posted by King of Queens:

quote:Originally posted by CC's Desperados:

quote:Originally posted by King of Queens:

Please keep the focus of this thread on Mark Reynolds. I picked him up in New York League 1 today, and I would like to start him at 3B this upcoming week.

If my numbers are correct, this needs to get resolved ASAP. I know that it's Sunday night and Greg is travelling today, but perhaps this could get addressed tomorrow morning. This really sound self motivated....It sound like you don't care if it is right as long as you get to play him at third. It also sound like you didn't know he was short only. [/QUOTE]You tell me, Shawn. Am I applying the rules properly? [/QUOTE]Nope.

You are applying the rules to a player who played in the MAJORS...not the minors. (20 games)

Minor leaguers only get ONE position to start.

~Lance

King of Queens · Post by **King of Queens** » Sun May 20, 2007 3:10 pm

Originally posted by sportsbettingman:

quote:Originally posted by King of Queens:

quote:Originally posted by CC's Desperados:

quote:Originally posted by King of Queens:

Please keep the focus of this thread on Mark Reynolds. I picked him up in New York League 1 today, and I would like to start him at 3B this upcoming week.

If my numbers are correct, this needs to get resolved ASAP. I know that it's Sunday night and Greg is travelling today, but perhaps this could get addressed tomorrow morning. This really sound self motivated....It sound like you don't care if it is right as long as you get to play him at third. It also sound like you didn't know he was short only. [/QUOTE]You tell me, Shawn. Am I applying the rules properly? [/QUOTE]Nope.

You are applying the rules to a player who played in the MAJORS...not the minors. (20 games)

Minor leaguers only get ONE position to start.

~Lance [/QUOTE]Where are you getting this one position rule, Lance?

CC's Desperados · Post by **CC's Desperados** » Sun May 20, 2007 3:10 pm

Originally posted by King of Queens:

quote:Originally posted by CC's Desperados:

quote:Originally posted by King of Queens:

Please keep the focus of this thread on Mark Reynolds. I picked him up in New York League 1 today, and I would like to start him at 3B this upcoming week.

If my numbers are correct, this needs to get resolved ASAP. I know that it's Sunday night and Greg is travelling today, but perhaps this could get addressed tomorrow morning. This really sound self motivated....It sound like you don't care if it is right as long as you get to play him at third. It also sound like you didn't know he was short only. [/QUOTE]You tell me, Shawn. Am I applying the rules properly? [/QUOTE]If a player did not appear the prior season in the majors he qualifies at the position he played most frequently the prior season in any league(s) he played in. The way the rules states...No, You are not.

King of Queens · Post by **King of Queens** » Sun May 20, 2007 3:12 pm

Again, the rules:

"Any minor-leaguer who didn't play any games in the majors in 2006 and who starts the 2007 season in the minors will earn position eligibility for 2007 based on his minor-league games played total in 2006 and he will earn other position eligibility after he plays 10 games at a different position in the majors."

AmericanDreams · Post by **AmericanDreams** » Sun May 20, 2007 3:14 pm

Mark Reynolds played over 20 games at 3B last year in the minors, and many more than that in 2005 and 2004.

When you search "Reynolds", even now, it comes up to the disambiguation page which says "Mark Reynolds - 3B - Ari"

I've sent an email to Tom; clearly this needs to be fixed.

[ May 20, 2007, 09:22 PM: Message edited by: AmericanDreams ]

King of Queens · Post by **King of Queens** » Sun May 20, 2007 3:15 pm

Originally posted by CC's Desperados:

If a player did not appear the prior season in the majors he qualifies at the position he played most frequently the prior season in any league(s) he played in. The way the rules states...No, You are not. This is what you are thinking of Shawn:

"If a prospect didn't play at least one game in the majors last year and he makes the 2007 Opening Day roster, he will qualify at the position he played the most at in the minors in 2006 (i.e., Alex Gordon earns a roster spot with the Royals in the outfield, he would qualify at third base because that's where he played the most in 2006 at Double-A Wichita)."

Mark Reynolds did not make the Opening Day roster. Thus, THIS is the section of the rules that needs to apply here:

"Any minor-leaguer who didn't play any games in the majors in 2006 and who starts the 2007 season in the minors will earn position eligibility for 2007 based on his minor-league games played total in 2006 and he will earn other position eligibility after he plays 10 games at a different position in the majors."

AmericanDreams · Post by **AmericanDreams** » Sun May 20, 2007 3:17 pm

Some of you guys are so blinded by your hatred of Gekko that you're not realizing what's happening here to the rest of us.

Go search "Reynolds" on the league site and tell me what you see.

Gordon Gekko · Post by **Gordon Gekko** » Sun May 20, 2007 3:19 pm

Originally posted by AmericanDreams:

Some of you guys are so blinded by your hatred of Gekko that you're not realizing what's happening here to the rest of us.

just sluggo is. i wouldnt be surprised if he rubs one off thinking of me. he's probably a sicko like that :rolleyes:

CC's Desperados · Post by **CC's Desperados** » Sun May 20, 2007 3:19 pm

Originally posted by AmericanDreams:

Some of you guys are so blinded by your hatred of Gekko that you're not realizing what's happening here to the rest of us.

Go search "Reynolds" on the league site and tell me what you see. Ok, click on his name and you tell what you see...

SS/MI/UTL | Arizona Diamondbacks | #27

SluggoJD · Post by **SluggoJD** » Sun May 20, 2007 3:20 pm

Go search Teahen and tell us what it says.

Then look at Gekko's lineup.

perhaps we need a new rule - "if a participant is too lazy to look at a player's profile page, it's his own damn fault."

Gordon Gekko · Post by **Gordon Gekko** » Sun May 20, 2007 3:20 pm

Originally posted by AmericanDreams:

Some of you guys are so blinded by your hatred of Gekko that you're not realizing what's happening here to the rest of us.

ps - don't let sluggo fool you. he has cust on his team and he has thome. his posts are ENTIRELY SELF-MOTIVATED

sportsbettingman · Post by **sportsbettingman** » Sun May 20, 2007 3:23 pm

Under #4 of the NFBC rules..."Starting lineup requirements."

"Minor-leaguers who did not play 20 games at any position in 2006 but who still played at least one game in the majors last year, will qualify at the position they played the most at in the majors in 2006.If a prospect didn't play at least one game in the majors last year and he makes the 2007 Opening Day roster, he will qualify at the position he played the most at in the minors in 2006 (i.e., Alex Gordon earns a roster spot with the Royals in the outfield, he would qualify at third base because that's where he played the most in 2006 at Double-A Wichita). Any minor-leaguer who didn't play any games in the majors in 2006 and who starts the 2007 season in the minors will earn position eligibility for 2007 based on his minor-league games played total in 2006 and he will earn other position eligibility after he plays 10 games at a different position in the majors."

[ May 20, 2007, 09:25 PM: Message edited by: sportsbettingman ]

SluggoJD · Post by **SluggoJD** » Sun May 20, 2007 3:25 pm

Originally posted by Gordon Gekko:

quote:Originally posted by AmericanDreams:

Some of you guys are so blinded by your hatred of Gekko that you're not realizing what's happening here to the rest of us.

ps - don't let sluggo fool you. he has cust on his team and he has thome. his posts are ENTIRELY SELF-MOTIVATED [/QUOTE]I did my homework, you ******* , unlike you.

I click on player profile pages, I go to CBS and look at past positions played, and I play by the rules.

And I don't go around making fake arguments, stirring up trouble for new participants, engaging in intentional disinformation, and I don't cry about baseball.

And the Teahen angle has you in a box of your own doing now.

What you gonna do Gekko? Volunteer to give up all stats you earned playing Teahen at 3B, since when you use "the utility funtion" as you call it, Teahen only shows "OF?" Why are you playing Teahen at 3B? He hasn't appeared there all year.

King of Queens · Post by **King of Queens** » Sun May 20, 2007 3:25 pm

Originally posted by sportsbettingman:

Under #4 of the NFBC rules..."Starting lineup requirements."

"Minor-leaguers who did not play 20 games at any position in 2006 but who still played at least one game in the majors last year, will qualify at the position they played the most at in the majors in 2006." Reynolds made his major league debut on May 17, 2007. This part of the rules would not apply here.

AmericanDreams · Post by **AmericanDreams** » Sun May 20, 2007 3:26 pm

Originally posted by CC's Desperados:

quote:Originally posted by AmericanDreams:

Some of you guys are so blinded by your hatred of Gekko that you're not realizing what's happening here to the rest of us.

Go search "Reynolds" on the league site and tell me what you see. Ok, click on his name and you tell what you see...

SS/MI/UTL | Arizona Diamondbacks | #27 [/QUOTE]But I knew he played 3B for 20+ games in 2006, 2005, and 2004, and I knew he didn't make the 2007 opening day roster.

So having 3B appear next to his name on the search result page only confirmed my line of thinking.