Draft Analyzer Software

colorado · Post by **colorado** » Tue Nov 20, 2007 9:58 am

Would apppreciate comments/suggestions/experiences on draft analyzer software.

KJ Duke · Post by **KJ Duke** » Tue Nov 20, 2007 10:07 am

Cut and paste data into excel and you can do all the analysis you want.

DOUGHBOYS · Post by **DOUGHBOYS** » Tue Nov 20, 2007 10:17 am

Originally posted by colorado:

Would apppreciate comments/suggestions/experiences on draft analyzer software. Are you from Colorado, colorado?

Gordon Gekko · Post by **Gordon Gekko** » Tue Nov 20, 2007 10:39 am

Originally posted by KJ Duke:

Cut and paste data into excel and you can do all the analysis you want. agreed

Gordon Gekko · Post by **Gordon Gekko** » Tue Nov 20, 2007 10:40 am

now the only trouble i've run into is finding all the data i need to do the proper analysis.

colorado · Post by **colorado** » Wed Nov 21, 2007 4:17 am

Excel too time intensive. Need someone else to do it for me.

[ November 21, 2007, 10:23 AM: Message edited by: colorado ]

colorado · Post by **colorado** » Wed Nov 21, 2007 4:19 am

I recently purchased RotoPass which includes their draft analyzer. I also know of another draft analyzer called RotoLab. I have not used either product. Any comments on either of these or others appreciated.

bjoak · Post by **bjoak** » Wed Nov 21, 2007 5:27 am

I've no idea as I've built my own in excel also. But I hope the big boys update every year. I redo my levels each year to reflect the past three years. I guess I'm saying to read up on what you're doing and make sure it makes sense to you. If they're not giving you any details on how they "analyze" it's probably not that good.

BTW, doesn't matter if you live in Colorado, Doughboys can't help you unless you are wondering what brand of pencil and paper to use.

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Gordon Gekko · Post by **Gordon Gekko** » Wed Nov 21, 2007 9:04 am

i'll throw this question out to everyone...has commercial off the shelf draft analyzer software actually worked for any of the big money winners?

Captain Hook · Post by **Captain Hook** » Wed Nov 21, 2007 9:23 am

Originally posted by Gordon Gekko:

i'll throw this question out to everyone...has commercial off the shelf draft analyzer software actually worked for any of the big money winners? GG - the answer is a definite maybe.

The problem is that any of these programs are limited by the way they are set up - that doesn't mean someone can't use them enough to be really comfortable and proficient with them, BUT the dependency on them by anyone less than VERY proficient will actually hamper a drafter.

I would say that any of the more successful players are SO familar with the numbers/players and their categorical contributions that someone else's software* would slow them down - AND prevent them from noticing some valuable information at the draft table.

* I do make the disinction that if an individual uses something THEY built and are fluent in (KJ comes to mind) this is not a problem. OTOH, most of the home grown ones I have seen have been severely limited by their creators.

Captain Hook · Post by **Captain Hook** » Wed Nov 21, 2007 9:25 am

Originally posted by colorado:

I recently purchased RotoPass which includes their draft analyzer. I also know of another draft analyzer called RotoLab. I have not used either product. Any comments on either of these or others appreciated. RotoLab (which used Baseball HQ projections) is a good tool, but as I noted above, you will have to use it a LOT before a serious draft to be proficient with it.

I have no idea what RotoPass uses for their analyzer.

bjoak · Post by **bjoak** » Wed Nov 21, 2007 10:32 am

Originally posted by Captain Hook:

quote:Originally posted by Gordon Gekko:

i'll throw this question out to everyone...has commercial off the shelf draft analyzer software actually worked for any of the big money winners? GG - the answer is a definite maybe.

The problem is that any of these programs are limited by the way they are set up - that doesn't mean someone can't use them enough to be really comfortable and proficient with them, BUT the dependency on them by anyone less than VERY proficient will actually hamper a drafter.

I would say that any of the more successful players are SO familar with the numbers/players and their categorical contributions that someone else's software* would slow them down - AND prevent them from noticing some valuable information at the draft table.

* I do make the disinction that if an individual uses something THEY built and are fluent in (KJ comes to mind) this is not a problem. OTOH, most of the home grown ones I have seen have been severely limited by their creators. [/QUOTE]I have nothing to compare mine to, but I had no problem using mine during the draft last year. I will say that an-online draft moves a little fast for it, but when I use it in combination with pre-rankings, it is fine.

Some tips:

Be sure you can easily toggle between positional rankings, overall rankings, and alphabetized lists.

Color code it. I like this by position; some guys do it by tier. Whatever you want it for, it makes it easy to see at least one variable at a summary glance. Also, the best way to eliminate chosen players is to gray them out, imo.

When attending the draft bring an extra battery *and* a mouse. If you can use the little red button or the finger pad just as fast, then bully for you, but a mouse should at least save you a few seconds here and there.

I'll add that if you're buying it, you should make sure you can rearrange the rankings as you like. This should be a given but Hooker's post makes me wonder.

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