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Post by Liquidhippo » Wed Feb 13, 2008 3:43 am

Post below if you'd like to help us get going the first-ever NFBC Auction Keeper Lge, which would be held in Las Vegas on Saturday after the main event.



Entry fee: $1,000



1st Place $7,000

2nd Place $3,000

3rd Place $2,000



AUCTION League:

1. Greg Morgan

2. KJ Duke

3. Don James

4. Eli Grimmett

5. Will Tyrer

6. Todd "The Wing" Zola [Big Grin]

7. David Longood

8. Ken Magner

9. Barberians(Wayne)

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Post by Liquidhippo » Wed Feb 13, 2008 3:44 am

KEEPER LEAGUE RULES



1. ROSTERS

a) A team's active roster consists of the following 23 players: 5 outfielders, 2 catchers, 1 second baseman, 1 shortstop, 1 middle infielder, 1 first baseman, 1 third baseman, 1 corner infielder, 1 utility hitter, and 9 pitchers.



b) Teams will also have a 7-man reserve roster, which will be acquired after the primary draft or auction through a serpentine draft.



c) In addition to the 7-man reserve roster, each team will have an additional 3-man minor league reserve roster, which will be acquired through a serpentine draft. Any player in the minors with MLB rookie-of-the-year eligibility for IP/AB that is not already on another team's roster can be taken.



d) Activating a minor league player to a team’s active roster would require a corresponding player drop to comply with that team’s 30-player major league roster. A team can choose not to activate a minor leaguer, even if he is called up to the majors, thus preserving his minor league status for the following year(s). However, if placed on an active roster for one scoring period, he loses his minor league status. Once activated, a player acquired in the minor league draft will carry a $5 keeper value in an auction league, or a 15th round draft value in a draft league. Minor league keepers may be kept indefinitely until activated by their owner. The first year in which they are activated becomes year-1 of their 3-year major league keeper eligibility.



2. KEEPERS

a) Each team may retain up to 8 keepers per season. Any individual player may be kept for as many as 3 seasons, after which he would return to the league’s player pool.



b) Each team may also retain up to three minor leaguers (in addition to their 8 keepers). However, any minor league keepers will reduce that team’s number of minor league draft choices by an equal number (at the back end of their draft choices) such that no team can have more than 3 players with a minor league contract (for purposes of this league) at any time. Only minor-leaguers that: (1) were taken in the minor league draft, and (2) have not been activated by their team’s owner, will be eligible as minor league keepers.



c) For draft leagues, any keeper that was drafted will take the place of that team's draft pick for the same round in which he was drafted. Any keeper that was a free agent pickup will take the place of that team's 11th round draft pick, or highest available pick after the 11th round. (Example: If a team kept his 11th and 13th round picks and two free agents, the free agents would take the place of his 12th and 14th round picks. The players' contracts, however, would not change to the lower round, even if they were kept for a lower round pick).



d) For auction leagues, any keeper that was purchased in the auction will retain his auction value. Any keeper that was taken in the reserve round will replace that same pick in the current reserve round. Any keeper that was a free agent pickup will have a $10 value.



e) Roster deadlines for declaring keepers each season will be:

(1) Four weeks prior to the draft or auction date each season, rosters must be reduced from 30 players to a list of up to 12 potential keepers.

(2) One week prior to the auction or draft date each season, rosters must be reduced to no more than 8 keepers (and up to 3 minor league keepers). From this deadline forward until the draft begins, any player(s) may be dropped (but not replaced).



f) A reserve round keeper in an auction league cannot fill one of the required positions on the 23-man active roster during the auction unless the owner at his option assigns that player a $1 salary, in which case he would take an active roster spot for the auction. Such a request must be submitted along with final roster cut, and is irreversible for future years (player will retain $1 salary).



3. AUCTIONS & DRAFTS

a) An auction or serpentine draft (depending on league type) will be conducted to acquire major league players. Draft order for each league will be determined by an auction for draft slots using each team’s $1,000 annual free-agent acquisition budget (FAAB) prior to draft day (date TBD). Any FAAB dollars used for draft priority will reduce that team’s available dollars by a like amount for the remainder of the season. After the first season, the league money winners will not participate in slot bidding. Rather, after other slots are acquired, these teams will have their choice of remaining slots within each league in reverse order of their league’s respective standings the previous year, AND they will have the average number of FAAB dollars from all bidding teams within the respective leagues deducted from their FAAB budget.



b) The draft league order will be serpentine for all 30 rounds. The auction league order will apply to the nomination order (1-15 for all 23 auction rounds, not serpentine) and the 7-man serpentine reserve draft. The 3-player minor league draft will be serpentine in opposite order of the major league order for draft leagues, but in the same order as the major league order for auction leagues.



c) The pool of players that may be bid upon for the major league drafts includes members of every MLB team who are on a 40-man roster. Unsigned free agents are not draft eligible. A major lge draft eligible list will be distributed prior to the draft. Players eligible for the minor league reserve draft will be those players currently on a minor league roster AND meeting the following major league service time requirement for rookie honors: pitchers with less than 50 major lge IP, hitters with less than 130 major lge ABs.



d) For auction leagues, each team must acquire 23 players less the number of non-reserve-round major league keepers, at a total cost not to exceed 260 dollars less the cost of major league keepers. Teams will nominate players for bidding in a pre-determined order. The owner will announce the roster position that the player will fill, although he may move that player during the draft to another eligible position to accommodate other players selected. No owner may bid for a player who qualifies only at positions that are no longer available to him.



e) For draft leagues, each team must acquire 30 players less the number of major league keepers. Any keepers will replace that team’s draft selection for the round in which they were initially acquired, or as set forth above if multiple keepers have the same round designation.



4. PLAYER DROPS

a) Any player that is dropped from a roster prior to August 1 becomes part of the free agent pool for the next transaction period.



b) Players dropped on or after August 1, which were drafted in the 15th round or earlier in draft leagues, or were acquired for $5 or greater during auction for the auction leagues, are out of the player pool for the rest of the year.



5. TRADES & COLLUSION

To prevent collusion, trading is not allowed. No collusion of any kind will be tolerated, and no one may have ownership or any beneficial interest of any kind in more than one team within the same league.



6. SEASON-FORWARD DEPOSIT

To help with continuity and owner replacement, team owners will be charged a $250 deposit on August 1st each season, which will be used toward the following season's entry fee. For a new team's first season only, the deposit will be charged upfront (rather than on August 1st).



Any team that does not submit a deposit after their initial year will relinquish control of their team as of August 1st without further obligation, but will not be eligibile to receive any winnings for that season. If a replacement owner is named in-season, that owner will assume full rights of ownership for the remainder of the season upon making the $250 deposit. If a team decides not to return after posting a deposit, the deposit will be forfeited and used as needed to recruit future owners.



7. PRIZE BREAKDOWN

First Place = $7,000

Second Place = $3,000

Third Place = $2,000



The balance due for the following season's entry ($750 after the deposit is applied) will be deducted from the winning teams' payouts, so all winning teams will be paid-up for the next season. [/QB][/QUOTE]

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Post by Sack » Wed Feb 13, 2008 5:52 am

Greg M: If you GET this up and running, I'll take part.



Ken / Sack

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Post by KJ Duke » Wed Feb 13, 2008 6:07 am

We're over halfway there - this could be the best event in Vegas this year; seven more players and it can happen.



For those of you who've never played keeper leagues, I promise you'll love it (Terry, where are you?) :cool:

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Post by Liquidhippo » Wed Feb 13, 2008 6:41 am

Excellent, good to have you on board Ken.

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Post by Sack » Wed Feb 13, 2008 6:45 am

Thanks Greg, cya next month. When I heard of that relief pitcher coming back, I just grinned. Yur good. ;)

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Post by KJ Duke » Thu Feb 14, 2008 3:46 pm

7 more spots open

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Post by Terry Pass » Fri Feb 15, 2008 1:55 pm

Kevin,

If you mean me and not Terry Haney.

Here I am. Thinking about it. Never done an auction before. Getting hammered ain't any fun. If you get 11 or 12 signups, I'll say yes or no then.

Terry



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Post by KJ Duke » Fri Feb 15, 2008 2:29 pm

Originally posted by Scorpion:

Kevin,

If you mean me and not Terry Haney.

Here I am. Thinking about it. Never done an auction before. Getting hammered ain't any fun. If you get 11 or 12 signups, I'll say yes or no then.

Terry I was speaking of T Haney because he's avoided keeper lges 'til now, but if I can capture two Terrys with one post ... :D :D



btw, Greg Morgan hadn't done keeper lges either (if I recall correctly?) before the one I started here three years ago, but as you can see he is clearly hooked now (he's done very well in that lge, too).

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Post by KJ Duke » Sat Feb 16, 2008 11:34 am

I now have two more maybes, which could bring us to 10 players.



If anyone else wants in on this league now is the time to speak up, we'd love to do it but we need to get a little momentum going to fill it up.

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Post by KJ Duke » Sat Feb 16, 2008 11:37 am

If any NY'ers or Chicagoans are interested in this but can't make the auction in Vegas, post here and maybe you could find either a partner or even just a proxy in Vegas who could do your bidding for you.

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Post by BARBERIAN » Sun Feb 17, 2008 6:13 am

DO THIS SATELLITE, I'M IN. WAYNE

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Post by BARBERIAN » Sun Feb 17, 2008 6:17 am

PROXY IS FINE TOO. SIGN ME UP. WAYNE. 714- 403- 8935

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Post by Asumijet » Sun Feb 17, 2008 7:55 am

If someone needs a proxy or a partner for Vegas, I would be a willing participant. I would go alone, but I think my wife is starting to detect that I am spending a lot more on FBB than I did last year. :eek:
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Post by reservoirdawgs » Tue Feb 19, 2008 11:45 am

Very interested in keeper league..any chance this could be AL only since it looks like you're short a few? Easier to find 12 than 15...and of course I'm an absolute moron in the NL!!

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Post by KJ Duke » Tue Feb 19, 2008 11:50 am

Originally posted by reservoirdawgs:

Very interested in keeper league..any chance this could be AL only since it looks like you're short a few? Easier to find 12 than 15...and of course I'm an absolute moron in the NL!! Would want to stick with a mixed format, but you're welcome to draft only AL players.

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Post by reservoirdawgs » Tue Feb 19, 2008 12:26 pm

Fair enough....I'm new to NFBC but have been doing standard roto 5x5 AL only for 17 years...not opposed to doing Mixed league but does not offer the same challenge (in my opinion)since you don't go as deep but curious why you never see a 20+ team mixed league...

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Post by KJ Duke » Tue Feb 19, 2008 12:33 pm

Originally posted by reservoirdawgs:

Fair enough....I'm new to NFBC but have been doing standard roto 5x5 AL only for 17 years...not opposed to doing Mixed league but does not offer the same challenge (in my opinion)since you don't go as deep but curious why you never see a 20+ team mixed league... The more players, the lower someone's odds of winning, the less demand for the game ... look at the number of 12-tm lges in the world vs the number of 15-tm contests; my guess would be it's probably a 100:1 ratio. Bump it over 20 tms and its an even harder sell, not that its a bad idea though if you can get 20 guys together for a draft.

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Post by reservoirdawgs » Tue Feb 19, 2008 12:55 pm

Good points..never really looked at it that way...but I think you're right...one of the things I like the most is going deep into the league..it becomes more like real baseball...going to the free agent list and finding many guys that may be a 25 HR 85 RBI type dilutes the competition (again just my opinion)but am starting to learn I am in the minority...guess I need to start brushing up on NL..what's that' guys name P-U-J-O-L-S...in my previous league to introduce NL it was proposed that we add 4 owners and use AL and NL east only to keep the depth but was voted down..

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Post by Liquidhippo » Wed Feb 20, 2008 10:27 am

We're 2/3 full. Just 5 more needed to fill up the inaugural edition of what could become one of the coolest NFBC Events. We still have time, but we need to get this ball rolling. Come on guys. Who is going to step up to the plate?

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Post by Liquidhippo » Fri Feb 22, 2008 10:33 am

This puppy needs some momentum. We're headed towards the home stretch....2 or 3 more will tilt the scales in our favor as we had a couple of maybes who said they'd join once we hit 12.

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Post by EliGrimmett » Fri Feb 22, 2008 10:51 am

I'm going to rain on the momentum parade.



:(



Greg took WAY too much money from me recently (it was actually the right amount given the leagues I'm in, but it felt like a lot!)



I'm going to have to pass on this league. I'm getting married and buying a house, among other things. Sorry guys - I was really looking forward to it.
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Post by KJ Duke » Fri Feb 22, 2008 11:16 am

Maybe we should start taking signups for a 2009 Keeper Auction in Vegas ...

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Post by Liquidhippo » Sun Feb 24, 2008 11:35 am

Originally posted by KJ Duke:

Maybe we should start taking signups for a 2009 Keeper Auction in Vegas ... That's a good thought. I'd be willing to commit to 2009 right now.



Another thought to toss out there would be running the auction online, assuming those signed up would be willing to go that route.



I'm up for either.

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Post by colorado » Sun Feb 24, 2008 12:13 pm

'09 would make me interested. I'll keep an eye on posts.

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