Proposal For Lifetime NFBC Standings

Greg Ambrosius · Post by **Greg Ambrosius** » Fri Jun 11, 2004 3:56 am

I received this e-mail this week from Buster of CreativeSports, who has proposed an idea for NFBC lifetime standings in following years. I told him it was such a good idea that he should post it on the NFBC boards and get some feedback, but I know he's busy and might not have had time to do that. So I'm going to do it for him.

Anyway, this is an idea that I've considered already and will definitely initiate in 2005. I think having Lifetime Standings rewards our initial 195 owners and creates a reason to remain with the NFBC. Anyway, here's Buster's proposal and let's add to it. Thanks again Buster:

"I realize that Krause has its own marketing people, and doesn't need my unsolicited advice, but it looks like you are going to get it, anyway.

"I was thinking that you ought to consider a "lifetime" (you need a better word) championship as well as your “league” and “overall” championships for all future years. You don't need to fund it too much, i.e., $5,000.00 which can be siphoned off of the league prizes without any major complaints.

"No matter who wins this season, you will have one team thinking that it was due mostly because of his/her skill, drafting and maneuvering, and the other 194 claiming luck, injuries, full moons, bad umpiring, blown saves, etc. as the reason that each did not win.

"However, the owner that has the best overall record after two, three or four years, now that is unlikely to be completely luck. Why not reward that owner, and make it an ancillary competition? The process would be quite easy. This season, the first place overall team gets 195 points. Second place 194, etc.

"Come next season, you have not only your “league” and "overall" standings, but updated daily the "lifetime" standings, adding last season's points (195 for first all the way down to 1 for 195th place), to the current standings. At the end of two years, you will crown the 2005 "Lifetime" champ. You do the same for the third season, and so on. You really do need a better name than the pathetic “lifetime” name used above, though.

"At about the fourth year, you can "throw out" a team's worst finish, or more likely, the year that the team didn't play. This way, teams new to the competition are not penalized. Teams would be ranked based upon their best three years. You can decide what to do in ensuing years thereafter.

"This works out for you, the company and us the player. Regarding the company, it encourages us to play every year. It keeps us interested throughout the season, even if we are in 120th place. The difference between 100th and 140th place currently is nothing more than just a wee bit of pride. However, considering a lifetime prize, that 40 places can be significant.

"So, we come back to play again, as the lifetime award is prestigious and great for bragging rights, which, despite the money, is a lot of what this entire league is about. We have the incentive to return, and we will return.

"Granted, this doesn't immediately help teams that are going to play next year, but didn't play this year. Hence, the limited prize for the lifetime winner, so as to not take away from the yearly competition. Yet, those new teams can compete after three seasons, as you throw out a year that an owner didn't play, or if the owner played all four, you throw out his/her lowest score.

"You obviously want to keep as many of the 195 in this next year, and the following years. This is an easy way to keep us committed.

"For the player, we have something that is worth shooting for. Naturally, the $100K is enticing, but any of us with even a modicum of intelligence knows that we have, at best, about a one in fifty shot at winning. Winning the overall lifetime prize any given year is much less luck and much more skill, as we would have to be good for a number of consecutive years. You can even start your own Hall of Fame after about five years, inaugerating one or two teams each season. Imagine those bragging rights!"

We are with you on this one, Buster. Let's get the creative juices flowing as a Lifetime Competition is inevitable for each year going forward.

Gordon Gekko · Post by **Gordon Gekko** » Fri Jun 11, 2004 4:51 am

I think some derivative of this would be an excellent idea. Nice to know there's some intelligence (besides myself and a few others) floating around these boards.

Plymouth · Post by **Plymouth** » Fri Jun 11, 2004 6:22 am

I like the concept very much and think you should move forward with the idea. I am not sure however; how much it will really do for retaining the teams that finish near the bottom this year since they will also be in the same position for the lifetime competition after one year.

a · Post by a » Fri Jun 11, 2004 8:57 am

Originally posted by Gordon Gekko:

I think some derivative of this would be an excellent idea. Nice to know there's some intelligence (besides myself and a few others) floating around these boards. Too bad we'll never know how the expert (but very secrative) Gekko will fair. I'm ranked #66 in WCOFF (I believe, I was told by a guy in a keeper I'm in.)

It is a cool idea, but it was probably taken from WCOFF.

[ June 11, 2004, 02:57 PM: Message edited by: Vega$ Gambler$ ]

Leaderboard Sports · Post by **Leaderboard Sports** » Fri Jun 11, 2004 9:06 am

I like the idea with some tinkering. Maybe make it every third year and make the prize a little larger. Do best two out of three so a bad year doesn't take away your enthusiasm for the award.

You could show the standings every year for bragging rights but only pay out a $10,000 award every 3 years.

Gordon Gekko · Post by **Gordon Gekko** » Fri Jun 11, 2004 9:39 am

Originally posted by Greg Ambrosius:

"I was thinking that you ought to consider a "lifetime" (you need a better word) championship as well as your “league” and “overall” championships for all future years. How bout the GEKKO Championship? Just a thought.

[ June 11, 2004, 03:39 PM: Message edited by: Gordon Gekko ]

Plymouth · Post by **Plymouth** » Fri Jun 11, 2004 9:52 am

Winning it is supposed to be a good thing Gekko.

a · Post by a » Fri Jun 11, 2004 3:04 pm

Originally posted by Gordon Gekko:

quote:Originally posted by Greg Ambrosius:

"I was thinking that you ought to consider a "lifetime" (you need a better word) championship as well as your “league” and “overall” championships for all future years. How bout the GEKKO Championship? Just a thought. [/QUOTE]But wouldn't the person actually have to be revealed?????

Buster · Post by **Buster** » Fri Jun 11, 2004 6:49 pm

Vega$ Gambler: Does the WCOFB have a lifetime award? I have no interest in that organization, have never visited their site, and have no clue. So, if they have such an award, then I came up with it without knowing of theirs.

Either way, it doesn't much matter. There is no prestige in being the lifetime leader in the second best fantasy baseball competition.

The prestige would be being known as the lifetime leader in the BEST fantasy baseball competition, and that organization is the National Fantasy Baseball Championship.

Just my unsolicited thoughts.

Buster

a · Post by a » Sat Jun 12, 2004 5:46 am

Buster,

It's actaully WCOFF (the football version) that has rankings. Since this is only the second year of WCOFB, they don't have lifetime rankings. (I don't know if they will have a 3rd year, we'll have to wait and see).

We all have to give Lenny and Emil cudos for starting the "world Championships". They stuck their necks out and got the ball rolling. They should not be slammed for anything they have accomplished.

viper · Post by **viper** » Sat Jun 12, 2004 9:06 am

"T'was a brave man that ate the first oyster."

I agree that credit must goes where it ought to. Lenny & Emil have been successful in football but not baseball. They opened the door and Greg has showed us all how to make it successful. This is the premiere baseball site.

I just wish my team was doing a damn but then if you are not 1st, 2nd or 3rd in your league or 1st through 8th overall, it really doesn't matter too much where you end up from adollar and cents point of view.