BIGGEST 1st_Round_BUST

Gordon Gekko · Post by **Gordon Gekko** » Sun Apr 06, 2008 2:22 pm

Miguel Cabrera

I knew I fell into the trap this year. Just like with Santana last year. Santana had his worst year in recent memory. Same goes for Miggy.

"If luck weren't involved, I guess I'd win every one."

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Gordon Gekko · Post by **Gordon Gekko** » Sun Apr 06, 2008 2:24 pm

The guy signed a monster contract, but yet he's afraid of "being the man"? Hitting 5th EVEN WITH SHEFFIELD OUT!!??!! man, what a puzzy!

sportsbettingman · Post by **sportsbettingman** » Sun Apr 06, 2008 2:24 pm

You need 9 more titles/bracelets for that quote!

~Lance

Gordon Gekko · Post by **Gordon Gekko** » Sun Apr 06, 2008 2:25 pm

Originally posted by sportsbettingman:

You need 9 more titles/bracelets for that quote!

~Lance i believe Phil only has one big one

[ April 06, 2008, 08:26 PM: Message edited by: Gordon Gekko ]

Da bears · Post by **Da bears** » Sun Apr 06, 2008 2:37 pm

Yeah I fell into the trap also.

I know it is early but the Tigers are pathetic. They are about to get swept back to back by the White Sox and Royals. Ouch.....

My condolences to anyone with Tiger pitchers...it could be a long year.

billywaz · Post by **billywaz** » Sun Apr 06, 2008 2:39 pm

Originally posted by Gordon Gekko:

Miguel Cabrera

I knew I fell into the trap this year. Just like with Santana last year. Santana had his worst year in recent memory. Same goes for Miggy.

"If luck weren't involved, I guess I'd win every one." I'm guessing, although Santana had a "poor" year by his standards, your WHIP, ERA, Wins, and K's would all of been significantly less (in points), and you most likely wouldn't even been in the top 20-30 overall.

He was an anchor, that like you have said, "gives you a lot of room in 4 categories".

Dirt Dogs · Post by **Dirt Dogs** » Sun Apr 06, 2008 2:54 pm

WOW! I'm amazed that people are so down on Miggy already, trade him to me I think A-Rod will still be the bust based on who he was taken over (D.Wright)!

Hard Heads · Post by **Hard Heads** » Sun Apr 06, 2008 2:57 pm

Originally posted by Dirt Dogs:

WOW! I'm amazed that people are so down on Miggy already, trade him to me I think A-Rod will still be the bust based on who he was taken over (D.Wright)! One week and he is a bust? He needs to get out of Comerica and away from the hometown pressure to loosen up is all. Ryan Howard sure isn't fairing any better for me, but I am not worried about him, nor should anyone worry about Miggy.

Gordon Gekko · Post by **Gordon Gekko** » Sun Apr 06, 2008 3:00 pm

Originally posted by Da bears:

Yeah I fell into the trap also.

i was reading before the draft about miggy not being able to handle being "the man". him signing this big contract probably has him in line for a .260-.270 season with 25 homerums.

if only braun didn't come down with that "achilles" injury right before the draft, he woulda been mine. i didn't have the guts to take an unproven guy with a possible injury. i tried to take the "money in the bank" player and look where it got me. F'ing disgusting.

Gordon Gekko · Post by **Gordon Gekko** » Sun Apr 06, 2008 3:01 pm

Originally posted by billywaz:

I'm guessing, although Santana had a "poor" year by his standards, your WHIP, ERA, Wins, and K's would all of been significantly less (in points), and you most likely wouldn't even been in the top 20-30 overall.

He was an anchor, that like you have said, "gives you a lot of room in 4 categories". yes, you are guessing. how do u know what my pitching plan was if i didn't get santana?

Edwards Kings · Post by **Edwards Kings** » Sun Apr 06, 2008 3:03 pm

Marathon...not a sprint. Anyone want to put Miggy out on the FA pool, I imagine there would be a few bidders, if Greg left him out there.

Patience....patience...

NorCalAtlFan · Post by **NorCalAtlFan** » Sun Apr 06, 2008 3:04 pm

I think you're inflating his HR totals. I have him down as a poor mans Beltre, with less power. 22-80 .295. Not bad, but not first round material.

Gordon Gekko · Post by **Gordon Gekko** » Sun Apr 06, 2008 3:05 pm

avg down to .118 with 2 GIDP. the pressure will keep mounting on the kid and he doesn't have the skills to cope with it. A LONG LONG YEAR for anyone drafting him. enough said about this albatross.

Gordon Gekko · Post by **Gordon Gekko** » Sun Apr 06, 2008 3:07 pm

Originally posted by NorCalAtlFan:

I think you're inflating his HR totals. I have him down as a poor mans Beltre, with less power. 22-80 .295. Not bad, but not first round material. in my most current projections i have miggy at 18-85 .289.

NorCalAtlFan · Post by **NorCalAtlFan** » Sun Apr 06, 2008 3:08 pm

At least we're in the same ballpark. It's a shame.

Gordon Gekko · Post by **Gordon Gekko** » Sun Apr 06, 2008 3:09 pm

Originally posted by NorCalAtlFan:

At least we're in the same ballpark. It's a shame. with downside to 15-78 .278

billywaz · Post by **billywaz** » Sun Apr 06, 2008 3:13 pm

Originally posted by Gordon Gekko:

quote:Originally posted by NorCalAtlFan:

I think you're inflating his HR totals. I have him down as a poor mans Beltre, with less power. 22-80 .295. Not bad, but not first round material. in my most current projections i have miggy at 18-85 .289. [/QUOTE]It's all good Mark, you have CHRIS YOUNG!!

On pace to hit 70+! (if he plays in Colorado every week

)

Dirt Dogs · Post by **Dirt Dogs** » Sun Apr 06, 2008 3:14 pm

What about Prince? Someone get that kid a burger! you think the new diet (vegetarian) is going to effect his power numbers. Why would you change your diet after you hit 50 F-ing HR!!!

billywaz · Post by **billywaz** » Sun Apr 06, 2008 3:16 pm

Originally posted by Dirt Dogs:

What about Prince? Someone get that kid a burger! you think the new diet (vegetarian) is going to effect his power numbers. Why would you change your diet after you hit 50 F-ing HR!!! Was just talking to Gekko about this today.

Buy his asss a big freezer filled with BEEEEEEF!!!!!

NorCalAtlFan · Post by **NorCalAtlFan** » Sun Apr 06, 2008 3:16 pm

Originally posted by Gordon Gekko:

quote:Originally posted by NorCalAtlFan:

At least we're in the same ballpark. It's a shame. with downside to 15-78 .278 [/QUOTE]Interesting. While I can see the power going away, he is a legit .300 hitter. .288 is as low as I see that going.

Gordon Gekko · Post by **Gordon Gekko** » Sun Apr 06, 2008 3:22 pm

Originally posted by NorCalAtlFan:

It's a shame. now let's be honest here. i "shame" would be that team you drafted from the one hole the other night

NorCalAtlFan · Post by **NorCalAtlFan** » Sun Apr 06, 2008 3:25 pm

Middle of the pack with nobody hitting. At this juncture, I'll take that.

Nice c pickup.

bjoak · Post by **bjoak** » Sun Apr 06, 2008 3:40 pm

Seems like I was the only one saying Cabrera wasn't 1st round material in March, not to mention that the ballpark was going to hurt and the Tigers offense wouldn't be all that and a bag of chips. Can I get a witness?

Gordon Gekko · Post by **Gordon Gekko** » Sun Apr 06, 2008 4:17 pm

Originally posted by bjoak:

Seems like I was the only one saying Cabrera wasn't 1st round material in March, not to mention that the ballpark was going to hurt and the Tigers offense wouldn't be all that and a bag of chips. Can I get a witness? yes u were. u were also the only one thinking burnett in the 7th looked good.

bjoak · Post by **bjoak** » Sun Apr 06, 2008 4:41 pm

Originally posted by Gordon Gekko:

quote:Originally posted by bjoak:

Seems like I was the only one saying Cabrera wasn't 1st round material in March, not to mention that the ballpark was going to hurt and the Tigers offense wouldn't be all that and a bag of chips. Can I get a witness? yes u were. u were also the only one thinking burnett in the 7th looked good. [/QUOTE]And I was the only one right on both counts! Thanks for the props.