LAS VEGAS 8 HEATING UP

Walla Walla · Post by **Walla Walla** » Wed Apr 16, 2008 7:07 am

As a US Hockey bystander I was shocked by Shawn Childs outburst on the baseball mafia. It seems his co owner in a couple of leagues "Rick Thomas"

used some info as a co owner to to try and gain the upper hand in those leagues they weren't co-owners.

I'll pass more along as I hear it.

Chest Rockwell · Post by **Chest Rockwell** » Wed Apr 16, 2008 7:34 am

you are a class act man... classy, top notch.

RedRyder · Post by **RedRyder** » Wed Apr 16, 2008 7:38 am

Originally posted by Chest Rockwell:

you are a class act man... classy, top notch. Chest, I was thinking the same thing!

What a poor taste your post has left John. Please don't "pass along more as you hear it."

Walla Walla · Post by **Walla Walla** » Wed Apr 16, 2008 7:43 am

I'm not sure why my posts are hated so often.

But I'll stop them from here on out. Sorry all I'm done.

Chest Rockwell · Post by **Chest Rockwell** » Wed Apr 16, 2008 7:46 am

Originally posted by Walla Walla:

I'm not sure why my posts are hated so often.

But I'll stop them from here on out. Sorry all I'm done.

You won't but that is fine too.

If you have to explain to a grown man why a beef between 2 people (who most people in this contest consider at least one of them to be a friend) to a public forum- to shine a light on it is wrong- well then you have bigger issues.....

Walla Walla · Post by **Walla Walla** » Wed Apr 16, 2008 8:16 am

Chest. I'll point out one thing. Baseball mafia is a public form. I did not reveal a hidden post.

I just referred to an open article.

OK I'm now done.

headhunters · Post by **headhunters** » Wed Apr 16, 2008 8:23 am

ya- but what was your point? one thing i would be interested in you "passing along" is how many more days till you retire -so i can feel safer flying into seattle?

RedRyder · Post by **RedRyder** » Wed Apr 16, 2008 8:29 am

Originally posted by Walla Walla:

Chest. I'll point out one thing. Baseball mafia is a public form. I did not reveal a hidden post.

I just referred to an open article.

OK I'm now done.

Shawn never put a name to the person he was referring to in his column. You came on the MB and named a name. Poor form in my book.

Chest Rockwell · Post by **Chest Rockwell** » Wed Apr 16, 2008 8:41 am

Originally posted by headhunters:

ya- but what was your point? one thing i would be interested in you "passing along" is how many more days till you retire -so i can feel safer flying into seattle? Never thought of that- I have to be in Seattle (what a great town by the way) this summer. Walla Walla if you are going to take my plan down fly me in to one of those sh!tty strip joints right outside of SeaTac.

Greg Ambrosius · Post by **Greg Ambrosius** » Wed Apr 16, 2008 10:39 am

I'm not going to try to follow this debate between these two owners or the feedback here because I trust all will work out. It's tough when so many guys are in the same leagues and then talk so often as friends. That's the case here and they have partnered in some leagues as well. So let's just trust that cooler heads will prevail and that the competition won't get the best of them. Nothing would hurt me more if it does.

If John is just reporting what is already written in a public forum, then what's the beef? Obviously Shawn is pointing out something to the public and he's not ashamed of letting all know. If this was just on a league MB, then that's left for the 15 owners in that league to tackle.

Shawn, meet me for the NFL Draft next weekend in Manhattan and bring Eddie. Heck, pick up RT too and we'll have some REAL fun. His brother can handle the pizza joint for a day. Now settle this nicely once and for all.

Dirt Dogs · Post by **Dirt Dogs** » Thu Apr 17, 2008 3:08 pm

UNREAL! the last place team in this league has Scott Rolen and Kevin Slowey in his starting lineup! Greg can you ban this player from the NFBC next year. That type of mgmt can ruin a league's results. I'm not in the league but this is the best of fantasy and i'm shocked to see it so early in a NFBC league!!!

Gordon Gekko · Post by **Gordon Gekko** » Thu Apr 17, 2008 3:10 pm

Originally posted by Dirt Dogs:

UNREAL! the last place team in this league has Scott Rolen and Kevin Slowey in his starting lineup! Greg can you ban this player from the NFBC next year. That type of mgmt can ruin a league's results. I'm not in the league but this is the best of fantasy and i'm shocked to see it so early in a NFBC league!!! WOW! someone doing this so early in the season must be some kind of record. IT'S ONLY APRIL 17TH!!!

Red Sox Nation · Post by **Red Sox Nation** » Thu Apr 17, 2008 3:46 pm

Originally posted by Dirt Dogs:

UNREAL! the last place team in this league has Scott Rolen and Kevin Slowey in his starting lineup! Greg can you ban this player from the NFBC next year. That type of mgmt can ruin a league's results. I'm not in the league but this is the best of fantasy and i'm shocked to see it so early in a NFBC league!!! I can't blame this owner. He didn't want to drop Shannon Stewart, Ross Gload, or Dotel.

KJ Duke · Post by **KJ Duke** » Thu Apr 17, 2008 4:16 pm

Originally posted by Red Sox Nation:

quote:Originally posted by Dirt Dogs:

UNREAL! the last place team in this league has Scott Rolen and Kevin Slowey in his starting lineup! Greg can you ban this player from the NFBC next year. That type of mgmt can ruin a league's results. I'm not in the league but this is the best of fantasy and i'm shocked to see it so early in a NFBC league!!! I can't blame this owner. He didn't want to drop Shannon Stewart, Ross Gload, or Dotel. [/QUOTE]Looks like he threw in the towel after week 1. Blew almost 400 faab on 3 mediocre players and hasnt picked up anyone during the last two FAAB periods. One team doing this out of the gate will throw off the league balance.

Someone needs to get a hold of this guy and let him know he should take some responsibility and manage his team.

Red Sox Nation · Post by **Red Sox Nation** » Thu Apr 17, 2008 4:17 pm

Originally posted by KJ Duke:

quote:Originally posted by Red Sox Nation:

quote:Originally posted by Dirt Dogs:

UNREAL! the last place team in this league has Scott Rolen and Kevin Slowey in his starting lineup! Greg can you ban this player from the NFBC next year. That type of mgmt can ruin a league's results. I'm not in the league but this is the best of fantasy and i'm shocked to see it so early in a NFBC league!!! I can't blame this owner. He didn't want to drop Shannon Stewart, Ross Gload, or Dotel. [/QUOTE]Looks like he threw in the towel after week 1. Blew almost 400 faab on 3 mediocre players and hasnt picked up anyone during the last two FAAB periods. One team doing this out of the gate will throw off the league balance.

Someone needs to get a hold of this guy and let him know he should take some responsibility and manage his team. [/QUOTE]Agreed. I hate this sh*t! Too much on the line.

sportsbettingman · Post by **sportsbettingman** » Thu Apr 17, 2008 5:49 pm

What league and city?

bjoak · Post by **bjoak** » Thu Apr 17, 2008 5:57 pm

Originally posted by sportsbettingman:

What league and city? Long night?

sportsbettingman · Post by **sportsbettingman** » Thu Apr 17, 2008 6:04 pm

sportsbettingman · Post by **sportsbettingman** » Thu Apr 17, 2008 6:15 pm

Originally posted by Dirt Dogs:

UNREAL! the last place team in this league has Scott Rolen and Kevin Slowey in his starting lineup! Greg can you ban this player from the NFBC next year. That type of mgmt can ruin a league's results. I'm not in the league but this is the best of fantasy and i'm shocked to see it so early in a NFBC league!!! With $100,000.00 on the line...must we all be total fools and assume everyone is on the up and up?

Jules and Rick are friends...so I'd take that critique a bit lighter.

Walla gets a bad rap for what?

A bunch of butt kissers sticking up for each other?

Walla is IN that league...you guys are acting like babies. He was right there in Vegas watching ponies...he was fine.

If this **** has evolved into a bunch of groups of minds trying to grab an advantage...fine.

Just lay off the **** talk of the other guys.

Walla did NOTHING WRONG to deserve ANY bashing.

He added his input from what he read on Baseball Mafia and what he's seen in his own NFBC main league.

Bunch of girls. (sorry Jules)

~Lance

sportsbettingman · Post by **sportsbettingman** » Thu Apr 17, 2008 6:22 pm

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[ April 18, 2008, 06:22 PM: Message edited by: sportsbettingman ]

duggan · Post by **duggan** » Fri Apr 18, 2008 4:53 am

much ado about nothing, why would anyone be apartner on a team with someone that he is also competing against in other leagues, sour grapes, made his own bed now he needs to sleep in it. PLAY ON

sportsbettingman · Post by **sportsbettingman** » Fri Apr 18, 2008 12:09 pm

I'll admit my posts were rude and slightly uncalled for, but I have a question.

Can I legally own more than one team in the NFBC?

Can I put my name as main-manager on one team, and be the co-manager on 3 or 4 other main event teams?

I'm not sure if this is included in the NFBC rules.

The advantages are numerous...

1) I get 5 different chances at spreading out the risk in the drafting of player.

2) I get 5 (possibly) different draft spots and leagues...increasing my chances at an "optimal" draft spot as well as increasing my chances at getting into a "soft" league.

3) I can manage my teams to create one "horse" and 4 ponies. The ponies can draft and set their lineups in a way to benefit the Horse in the overall via category manipulation.

4) When September crunch time comes around...I can put in "weak run or RBI" lineups, or go "all reliever" in an attempt to pass my opponents in certain categories, but not pass my Horse.

You say the impact would be minor...but there were flip flopping in the rankings based on a single add-on game last season.

I know of folks who do this in WCOFF...but that is apples and oranges.

Being a rotisserie based main event...the impact could be much greater having "ponies".

I would consider 3 and 4 above to be collusion, and that would be a concern of mine in a rotisserie based main event like this.

Not accusing a soul...just curious if it's legal to "own" more than one team in the NFBC.

As for Walla...I can't recall him pulling stuff out of thin air. Usually the things he complains about or brings up have a factual base.

In my opinion...to "hide" this...or cover it up is worse than bringing it up.

~Lance

Greg Ambrosius · Post by **Greg Ambrosius** » Fri Apr 18, 2008 4:36 pm

Are you asking me this question above Lance? I'm not following this one all the way, but I'll gladly answer if you'd like.

There isn't any NFBC owner who has more than one team. Whether some folks have partial stakes in teams, I don't know. If anybody wanted to own two teams and have separate people draft them, obviously they could and have that person as the principle owner. I don't see the collusion in the overall contest even if one person had a hand in two different teams.

Anyway, baseball is hard enough to manage one team. As you know, the two owners mentioned in this thread are as competitive as they come and they just so happen to be co-owners in the Super Draft League, no different than many other teams in those type of events. Not the main event, the Super Draft League.

And from what I hear, Shawn called to explain his point in the column to this particular owner and all is good. I'm glad to hear that and the only carryover from all of this is on this thread. It's time to let this one go as there's been no harm, no foul.

Gordon Gekko · Post by **Gordon Gekko** » Fri Apr 18, 2008 4:41 pm

Originally posted by sportsbettingman:

I'll admit my posts were rude and slightly uncalled for, but I have a question.

this has become more common in your posts...at least from what i see.

make uncalled for comments and then apologize the next day (usually blaming it on booze).

just an idea here, but why don't you put all the time u are thinking about devious plans into managing your team(s). again, just a thought.

sportsbettingman · Post by **sportsbettingman** » Fri Apr 18, 2008 5:00 pm

Originally posted by Gordon Gekko:

quote:Originally posted by sportsbettingman:

I'll admit my posts were rude and slightly uncalled for, but I have a question.

this has become more common in your posts...at least from what i see.

make uncalled for comments and then apologize the next day (usually blaming it on booze).

just an idea here, but why don't you put all the time u are thinking about devious plans into managing your team(s). again, just a thought. [/QUOTE]You are NOT the judge of called for or uncalled for posts.

Sorry.

I'm just defending Walla, and his right to post what he did.

PM me if you wish, Mark...if you have any other problem with me.

~Lance