NFBC Slow Draft Results

Gordon Gekko II · Post by **Gordon Gekko II** » Fri Feb 13, 2009 12:30 am

jacobs in the 5th? nah.

in the 6th? getting closer!

Edwards Kings · Post by **Edwards Kings** » Fri Feb 13, 2009 1:06 am

Originally posted by ThatGuy:

quote:Originally posted by Edwards Kings:

Mike Jacobs in the fifth round?

Must be an HQ subscriber. He's projected at some quite lofty numbers. [/QUOTE]I am an HQ subscriber and am one of the biggest admirer of thier methods. I actually saw these projections and had to ask one wiser than I if such lofty expectations for Jacobs was the fantasy equivalent of Jim Jones Jungle Joy Juice. Maybe yes and maybe no (I decided on a diet coke), but in any regard, the fifth is a stretch. Even Ron has him late eighth or early ninth territory, which is what cause me to raise my eyebrow in the first place.

Not slamming whomever made the pick, but it sort of stuck out like me at a you-know-what in a punch bowl!

Edwards Kings · Post by **Edwards Kings** » Fri Feb 13, 2009 1:10 am

Carl Crawford at 29th....let me take a knee now!

"Oh wise overlord of fantasy drafts, please let such things happen for me Saturday March 21st...I promise to clean my room and be nice to my sister!"

Gordon Gekko II · Post by **Gordon Gekko II** » Fri Feb 13, 2009 1:36 am

Originally posted by Edwards Kings:

Carl Crawford at 29th....let me take a knee now!

"Oh wise overlord of fantasy drafts, please let such things happen for me Saturday March 21st...I promise to clean my room and be nice to my sister!" try and keep this quiet. delete your post!

Edwards Kings · Post by **Edwards Kings** » Fri Feb 13, 2009 1:56 am

Originally posted by Gordon Gekko II:

quote:Originally posted by Edwards Kings:

Carl Crawford at 29th....let me take a knee now!

"Oh wise overlord of fantasy drafts, please let such things happen for me Saturday March 21st...I promise to clean my room and be nice to my sister!" try and keep this quiet. delete your post! [/QUOTE]Overlord of fantasy baseball...is it really you?

Gordon Gekko II · Post by **Gordon Gekko II** » Fri Feb 13, 2009 2:01 am

Originally posted by Edwards Kings:

quote:Originally posted by Gordon Gekko II:

quote:Originally posted by Edwards Kings:

Carl Crawford at 29th....let me take a knee now!

"Oh wise overlord of fantasy drafts, please let such things happen for me Saturday March 21st...I promise to clean my room and be nice to my sister!" try and keep this quiet. delete your post! [/QUOTE]Overlord of fantasy baseball...is it really you?

[/QUOTE]yes my son

Gordon Gekko II · Post by **Gordon Gekko II** » Fri Feb 13, 2009 2:39 am

Originally posted by Greg Ambrosius:

Fifth Round

71. Matt Wieters

Orioles president of baseball operations Andy MacPhail said Thursday that Matt Wieters will likely begin the season at Triple-A.

Edwards Kings · Post by **Edwards Kings** » Fri Feb 13, 2009 3:59 am

Originally posted by Gordon Gekko II:

quote:Originally posted by Edwards Kings:

quote:Originally posted by Gordon Gekko II:

quote:Originally posted by Edwards Kings:

Carl Crawford at 29th....let me take a knee now!

"Oh wise overlord of fantasy drafts, please let such things happen for me Saturday March 21st...I promise to clean my room and be nice to my sister!" try and keep this quiet. delete your post! [/QUOTE]Overlord of fantasy baseball...is it really you?

[/QUOTE]yes my son

[/QUOTE]BTW...the cute little guy on the bottom left I think looks like Walla Walla at a Ron Shandler siting...

Greg Ambrosius · Post by **Greg Ambrosius** » Fri Feb 13, 2009 4:09 am

Originally posted by Gordon Gekko II:

quote:Originally posted by Greg Ambrosius:

Fifth Round

71. Matt Wieters

Orioles president of baseball operations Andy MacPhail said Thursday that Matt Wieters will likely begin the season at Triple-A. [/QUOTE]I think Evan Longoria started the season at Triple-A last year, too.

Tom Kessenich · Post by **Tom Kessenich** » Fri Feb 13, 2009 4:11 am

Originally posted by Greg Ambrosius:

quote:Originally posted by Gordon Gekko II:

quote:Originally posted by Greg Ambrosius:

Fifth Round

71. Matt Wieters

Orioles president of baseball operations Andy MacPhail said Thursday that Matt Wieters will likely begin the season at Triple-A. [/QUOTE]I think Evan Longoria started the season at Triple-A last year, too.

[/QUOTE]And Ryan Braun the year before that.

[ February 13, 2009, 10:11 AM: Message edited by: Tom Kessenich ]

billywaz · Post by **billywaz** » Fri Feb 13, 2009 4:30 am

Originally posted by Tom Kessenich:

quote:Originally posted by Greg Ambrosius:

quote:Originally posted by Gordon Gekko II:

quote:Originally posted by Greg Ambrosius:

Fifth Round

71. Matt Wieters

Orioles president of baseball operations Andy MacPhail said Thursday that Matt Wieters will likely begin the season at Triple-A. [/QUOTE]I think Evan Longoria started the season at Triple-A last year, too.

[/QUOTE]And Ryan Braun the year before that. [/QUOTE]True, but neither were taken in the 5th round!

At least I am assuming that Longoria and Braun were not taken that early in any league.

Tom Kessenich · Post by **Tom Kessenich** » Fri Feb 13, 2009 4:32 am

Originally posted by billywaz:

quote:Originally posted by Tom Kessenich:

quote:Originally posted by Greg Ambrosius:

quote:Originally posted by Gordon Gekko II:

quote:Originally posted by Greg Ambrosius:

Fifth Round

71. Matt Wieters

Orioles president of baseball operations Andy MacPhail said Thursday that Matt Wieters will likely begin the season at Triple-A. [/QUOTE]I think Evan Longoria started the season at Triple-A last year, too.

[/QUOTE]And Ryan Braun the year before that. [/QUOTE]True, but neither were taken in the 5th round!

At least I am assuming that Longoria and Braun were not taken that early in any league. [/QUOTE]Maybe they should have been.

Greg Ambrosius · Post by **Greg Ambrosius** » Fri Feb 13, 2009 4:44 am

I grabbed some more results from the Slow Drafts and will post Rounds 7-12 for two more. What the heck, time to have some fun with all of this data we have here:

Seventh Round:

91. Derek Jeter

92. Felix Hernandez

93. Chad Billingsley

94. Torii Hunter

95. Garrett Atkins

96. Aubrey Huff

97. Rich Harden

98. Michael Young

99. Joba Chamberlain

100. Daisuke Matsuzaka

101. Vernon Wells

102. Carlos Delgado

103. Johnny Damon

104. Jhonny Peralta

105. J.J. Hardy

Eighth Round:

106. Ryan Ludwick

107. A.J. Burnett

108. Jose Valverde

109. Ryan Zimmerman

110. Brian Fuentes

111. Yovani Gallardo

112. Willy Taveras

113. B.J. Ryan

114. Mike Aviles

115. Jayson Werth

116. Chone Figgins

117. Raul Ibanez

118. Carlos Guillen

119. Jonathan Broxton

120. Zack Greinke

Ninth Round:

121. Javier Vazquez

122. Conor Jackson

123. Carlos Marmol

124. Chris Iannetta

125. Chris Young

126. Andre Ethier

127. Elijah Dukes

128. Jorge Cantu

129. Francisco Cordero

130. Carlos Zambrano

131. Matt Cain

132. Xavier Nady

133. Bobby Jenks

134. Adrian Beltre

135. Matt Wieters

Tenth Round:

136. Kerry Wood

137. Placido Polanco

138. Jose Lopez

139. Trevor Hoffman

140. Brett Myers

141. Adam Wainwright

142. Brad Hawpe

143. Matt Capps

144. Bengie Molina

145. Miguel Tejada

146. Jon Lester

147. Scott Baker

148. Lastings Milledge

149. Chris Young

150. Mike Napoli

Eleventh Round:

151. Ricky Nolasco

152. Mark DeRosa

153. David Price

154. Clayton Kershaw

155. Brian Wilson

156. Ben Sheets

157. Alex Gordon

158. Justin Verlander

159. Wandy Rodriguez

160. Milton Bradley

161. Josh Johnson

162. Matt Garza

163. Howie Kendrick

164. James Loney

165. Ryan Dempster

Round 12:

166. Eric Byrnes

167. Chad Qualls

168. Delmon Young

169. Yunel Escobar

170. Max Scherzer

171. Nelson Cruz

172. Jorge Posada

173. Denard Span

174. Erik Bedard

175. Aaron Harang

176. Pat Burrell

177. Rickie Weeks

178. Kevin Slowey

179. Matt Lindstrom

180. Mike Gonzalez

[ February 13, 2009, 01:48 PM: Message edited by: Greg Ambrosius ]

Tom Kessenich · Post by **Tom Kessenich** » Fri Feb 13, 2009 5:12 am

Rounds 7-12 of a recent 15-team slow draft:

7th Round

91. Jhonny Peralta

92. Chad Billingsley

93. Ervin Santana

94. Jose Valverde

95. Torii Hunter

96. Derek Jeter

97. Carlos Pena

98. J.J. Hardy

99. Michael Young

100. Scott Kazmir

101. Francisco Liriano

102. Carlos Marmol

103. Brian Fuentes

104. Cliff Lee

105. Jonathan Broxton

8th Round

106. Bobby Jenks

107. B.J. Ryan

108. Adrian Beltre

109. Carlos Guillen

110. Joba Chamberlain

111. Daisuke Matsuzaka

112. Jayson Werth

113. Mike Gonzalez

114. Carlos Delgado

115. Matt Capps

116. Xavier Nady

117. Raul Ibanez

118. Roy Oswalt

119. Johnny Damon

120. A.J. Burnett

9th Round

121. James Shields

122. John Lackey

123. Edinson Volquez

124. Jon Lester

125. Yovani Gallardo

126. Kerry Wood

127. Francisco Cordero

128. Zack Greinke

129. Javier Vazquez

130. Brad Hawpe

131. Nelson Cruz

132. Trevor Hoffman

133. Brian Wilson

134. Lastings Milledge

135. Mike Napoli

10th Round

136. Willy Taveras

137. Adam Wainwright

138. Joey Devine

139. Rich Harden

140. Matt Cain

141. Matt Lindstrom

142. Brett Myers

143. David DeJesus

144. Felix Hernandez

145. Heath Bell

146. Kevin Slowey

147. Ryan Zimmerman

148. Chris Perez

149. Joel Hanrahan

150. Frank Francisco

11th Round

151. Bengie Molina

152. Chad Qualls

153. Carls Gomez

154. Huston Street

155. Alex Gordon

156. James Loney

157. Eric Byrnes

158. Edwin Encarnacion

159. Chris Iannetta

160. Jorge Cantu

161. Pablo Sandoval

162. Miguel Tejada

163. Conor Jackson

164. Brandon Lyon

165. George Sherrill

12th Round

166. Mike Aviles

167. Rickie Weeks

168. Coco Crisp

169. Ricky Nolasco

170. David Price

171. Scott Baker

172. Jose Lopez

173. Derek Lowe

174. Justin Verlander

175. Howie Kendrick

176. Denard Span

177. Pat Burrell

178. Justin Upton

179. Max Scherzer

180. Ted Lilly

eddiejag · Post by **eddiejag** » Fri Feb 13, 2009 5:50 am

Ben Sheets in the 12th round ,how does someone not know he could be out for the year.Nolasco in the 12th round thats the biggest drop ive seen on him.

Liquidhippo · Post by **Liquidhippo** » Fri Feb 13, 2009 6:10 am

Originally posted by Tom Kessenich:

quote:Originally posted by Greg Ambrosius:

quote:Originally posted by Gordon Gekko II:

quote:Originally posted by Greg Ambrosius:

Fifth Round

71. Matt Wieters

Orioles president of baseball operations Andy MacPhail said Thursday that Matt Wieters will likely begin the season at Triple-A. [/QUOTE]I think Evan Longoria started the season at Triple-A last year, too.

[/QUOTE]And Ryan Braun the year before that. [/QUOTE]Not only that, the Brewers GM ridiculed those who thought Braun would be called up before September, referring to such people as 'idiots' and saying there was a 'zero' percent chance we'd see him for anything more than a cup of coffee late in the season.

Still ticks me off.

[ February 13, 2009, 12:11 PM: Message edited by: Liquidhippo ]

The Mighty Men · Post by **The Mighty Men** » Fri Feb 13, 2009 6:30 am

Originally posted by eddiejag:

Ben Sheets in the 12th round ,how does someone not know he could be out for the year.Nolasco in the 12th round thats the biggest drop ive seen on him. Eddie - I'm sure the "slow" part of the draft means Sheets was taken before the disclosure of his injury.

billywaz · Post by **billywaz** » Fri Feb 13, 2009 6:48 am

Originally posted by Tom Kessenich:

quote:Originally posted by billywaz:

quote:Originally posted by Tom Kessenich:

quote:Originally posted by Greg Ambrosius:

quote:Originally posted by Gordon Gekko II:

quote:Originally posted by Greg Ambrosius:

Fifth Round

71. Matt Wieters

Orioles president of baseball operations Andy MacPhail said Thursday that Matt Wieters will likely begin the season at Triple-A. [/QUOTE]I think Evan Longoria started the season at Triple-A last year, too.

[/QUOTE]And Ryan Braun the year before that. [/QUOTE]True, but neither were taken in the 5th round!

At least I am assuming that Longoria and Braun were not taken that early in any league. [/QUOTE]Maybe they should have been. [/QUOTE]Why take someone in the 5th when you can get them in the 12th??

Then again in Wieters case, your point is taken.

Greg Ambrosius · Post by **Greg Ambrosius** » Fri Feb 13, 2009 9:57 am

What the heck, here's one more if I haven't already listed this one:

Round 1:

1. Hanley Ramirez

2. Albert Pujols

3. David Wright

4. Jose Reyes

5. Ryan Braun

6. Alex Rodriguez

7. Miguel Cabrera

8. Johan Santana

9. Josh Hamilton

10. Grady Sizemore

11. Jimmy Rollins

12. Ian Kinsler

13. Mark Teixeira

14. Ryan Howard

15. Carlos Lee

Round 2:

16. Dustin Pedroia

17. Matt Holliday

18. Lance Berkman

19. Carlos Beltran

20. Alfonso Soriano

21. B.J. Upton

22. Chase Utley

23. CC Sabathia

24. Evan Longoria

25. Carl Crawford

26. Prince Fielder

27. Manny Ramirez

28. Justin Morneau

29. Brandon Phillips

30. Matt Kemp

Round 3:

31. Tim Lincecum

32. Jacoby Ellsbury

33. Carlos Quentin

34. Aramis Ramirez

35. Ichiro Suzuki

36. Adrian Gonzalez

37. Vladimir Guerrero

38. Jason Bay

39. Russell Martin

40. Kevin Youkilis

41. Nick Markakis

42. Chris Davis

43. Brian Roberts

44. Alex Rios

45. Nate McLouth

Round 4:

46. Shane Victorino

47. Alexei Ramirez

48. Curtis Granderson

49. Brandon Webb

50. Brian McCann

51. Rafael Furcal

52. Joey Votto

53. Joe Mauer

54. Jake Peavy

55. Roy Halladay

56. Cole Hamels

57. Carlos Pena

58. Corey Hart

59. Dan Haren

60. Bobby Abreu

Round 5:

61. Robinson Cano

62. Geovany Soto

63. Hunter Pence

64. Ervin Santana

65. Victor Martinez

66. David Ortiz

67. Magglio Ordonez

68. Carlos Delgado

69. Jonathan Papelbon

70. Derrek Lee

71. Dan Uggla

72. Josh Beckett

73. Ryan Doumit

74. Garrett Atkins

75. Mariano Rivera

Round 6:

76. Joe Nathan

77. Troy Tulowitzki

78. Vernon Wells

79. Torii Hunter

80. Brad Lidge

81. Chipper Jones

82. Stephen Drew

83. Jermaine Dye

84. Joakim Soria

85. Jay Bruce

86. Chone Figgins

87. Adam Dunn

88. Jhonny Peralta

89. Andre Ethier

90. Francisco Liriano

Greg Ambrosius · Post by **Greg Ambrosius** » Thu Feb 26, 2009 5:37 am

Yikes, I haven't posted any draft results in two weeks. I apologize. We've had several Slow Drafts since then, so I'll post some more results after lunch. My apologies. Look for them soon.

Greg Ambrosius · Post by **Greg Ambrosius** » Thu Feb 26, 2009 8:30 am

Okay, let's see if any players have lost value since mid-February. Here's the first six rounds of a recent Slow Draft. Enjoy.

First Round:

1. Hanley Ramirez

2. Alex Rodriguez

3. Jose Reyes

4. David Wright

5. Albert Pujols

6. Grady Sizemore

7. Ryan Braun

8. Miguel Cabrera

9. Ian Kinsler

10. Jimmy Rollins

11. Ryan Howard

12. Mark Teixeira

13. Josh Hamilton

14. Evan Longoria

15. Justin Morneau

Second Round:

16. Matt Holliday

17. Carlos Beltran

18. B.J. Upton

19. Lance Berkman

20. Chase Utley

21. Prince Fielder

22. Matt Kemp

23. Dustin Pedroia

24. Johan Santana

25. Carl Crawford

26. Carlos Lee

27. Alfonso Soriano

28. Aramis Ramirez

29. CC Sabathia

30. Nick Markakis

Third Round

31. Brian Roberts

32. Tim Lincecum

33. Brian McCann

34. Brandon Phillips

35. Alex Rios

36. Carlos Quentin

37. Adrian Gonzalez

38. Nate McLouth

39. Kevin Youkilis

40. Curtis Granderson

41. Manny Ramirez

42. Jacoby Ellsbury

43. Jason Bay

44. Ichiro Suzuki

45. Shane Victorino

Fourth Round

46. Brandon Webb

47. Cole Hamels

48. Russell Martin

49. Corey Hart

50. Chris Davis

51. Jay Bruce

52. Bobby Abreu

53. Rafael Furcal

54. Alexei Ramirez

55. Vladimir Guerrero

56. Joey Votto

57. David Ortiz

58. Joe Mauer

59. Derek Jeter

60. Hunter Pence

Fifth Round

61. Garrett Atkins

62. Geovany Soto

63. Victor Martinez

64. Magglio Ordonez

65. Roy Halladay

66. Jonathan Papelbon

67. Joe Nathan

68. Mariano Rivera

69. Francisco Rodriguez

70. Dan Haren

71. Matt Wieters

72. Jermaine Dye

73. Chone Figgins

74. Dan Uggla

75. Jake Peavy

Sixth Round

76. Adam Dunn

77. Francisco Liriano

78. Robinson Cano

79. Torii Hunter

80. J.J. Hardy

81. Jayson Werth

82. James Shields

83. Ryan Doumit

84. Johnny Damon

85. Jhonny Peralta

86. Chipper Jones

87. Joakim Soria

88. Brad Lidge

89. Derrick Lee

90. Ryan Ludwick

Thoughts?

billywaz · Post by **billywaz** » Thu Feb 26, 2009 8:36 am

Justin Morneau a FIRST rounder???

Not saying he won't produce those type numbers, but have yet to see him crack the top portion of round 2, let alone round one.

Scott Boras · Post by **Scott Boras** » Thu Feb 26, 2009 8:42 am

Originally posted by billywaz:

Justin Morneau a FIRST rounder???

Not saying he won't produce those type numbers, but have yet to see him crack the top portion of round 2, let alone round one. I was not in this draft and have no idea who drafted him in the first or why but I would speculate that this was influenced by MDC's default rankings which have Morneau very high. The past couple years I have noticed a definite influence that MDC's default rankings seem to have over drafting trends in the NFBC satellites leading up to and affecting the main. That's my opinion.

Quahogs · Post by **Quahogs** » Thu Feb 26, 2009 8:49 am

Originally posted by billywaz:

Justin Morneau a FIRST rounder???

Not saying he won't produce those type numbers, but have yet to see him crack the top portion of round 2, let alone round one. I'm supposing he figured he had to have a stud 1B/3B to start off his team - probably wasn't expecting to Teix AND Longoria to be gone. The next safe bet was between Morn/Fielder/Berkman. He may have figured once the draft gets back to him the Youks and Gonzo's would be gone - and they were.

Greg Ambrosius · Post by **Greg Ambrosius** » Thu Feb 26, 2009 9:54 am

Let's look at the first six rounds of another Slow Draft League held recently:

First Round:

1. Hanley Ramirez

2. David Wright

3. Albert Pujols

4. Jose Reyes

5. Alex Rodriguez

6. Ryan Braun

7. Grady Sizemore

8. Mark Teixeira

9. Miguel Cabrera

10. Ian Kinsler

11. Jimmy Rollins

12. Josh Hamilton

13. Ryan Howard

14. Chase Utley

15. Evan Longoria

Second Round

16. Matt Holliday

17. B.J. Upton

18. Brandon Phillips

19. Lance Berkman

20. Carlos Beltran

21. Carl Crawford

22. Alfonso Soriano

23. CC Sabathia

24. Carlos Quentin

25. Dustin Pedroia

26. Johan Santana

27. Carlos Lee

28. Matt Kemp

29. Tim Lincecum

30. Prince Fielder

Third Round

31. Manny Ramirez

32. Cole Hamels

33. Justin Morneau

34. Aramis Ramirez

35. Nick Markakis

36. Rafael Furcal

37. Jacoby Ellsbury

38. Jason Bay

39. Brian Roberts

40. Russell Martin

41. Jake Peavy

42. Kevin Youkilis

43. Ichiro Suzuki

44. Vladimir Guerrero

45. Adrian Gonzalez

Fourth Round

46. Brandon Webb

47. Chris Davis

48. Shane Victorino

49. Alex Rios

50. Brian McCann

51. Geovany Soto

52. Joe Mauer

53. Adam Dunn

54. Jonathan Papelbon

55. Nate McLouth

56. Curtis Granderson

57. Alexei Ramirez

58. Roy Halladay

59. Magglio Ordonez

60. Bobby Abreu

Fifth Round

61. Victor Martinez

62. Dan Uggla

63. Joey Votto

64. David Ortiz

65. Dan Haren

66. Corey Hart

67. Ervin Santana

68. Cliff Lee

69. Josh Beckett

70. Chone Figgins

71. Hunter Pence

72. James Shields

73. J.J. Hardy

74. Chipper Jones

75. Robinson Cano

Sixth Round

76. Joe Nathan

77. Stephen Drew

78. Chad Billingsley

79. Mariano Rivera

80. Aubrey Huff

81. James Loney

82. Roy Oswalt

83. Derek Jeter

84. Jhonny Peralta

85. Brad Lidge

86. Carlos Delgado

87. Derrek Lee

88. Francisco Rodriguez

89. Troy Tulowitzki

90. Francisco Liriano

Thoughts?

[ February 26, 2009, 03:59 PM: Message edited by: Greg Ambrosius ]