Plans For NFBC Hall of Fame

Gordon Gekko II · Post by **Gordon Gekko II** » Fri Jan 16, 2009 2:42 am

maybe something like this...

To qualify for nomination into NFBC HOF after 10 years:

6+ main event league titles

5 main event league titles + (1 ultimate league title or 1 super league title or 1 $1,300 auction league title)

4 main event league titles + (2 ultimate league titles or 2 super league titles or 2 $1,300 auction league titles)

3 main event league titles + (3 ultimate league titles or 3 super league titles or 3 $1,300 auction league titles)

3 main event league titles + (1 100K championship)

2 main event league titles + (2 100K championships)

cindy · Post by **cindy** » Fri Jan 16, 2009 2:55 am

The problem with the mindset is that this site is not just the Main Event any longer. All the other leagues (Ultimate, Super, Auctions, Satellites, and now the online championship make up this one site and all should have equal weight in deciding the HOF players. You cannot weight the Main Event league wins any more than a league win in one of those other leagues. If anything a league win in the Main Event is probably easier than in the other leagues because of the competition level. I do agree however, that the people who win the 100k should automatically get in, because that is the hardest thing to accomplish on this site.

Bama · Post by **Bama** » Fri Jan 16, 2009 2:58 am

Originally posted by Gordon Gekko II:

quote:Originally posted by KLN:

The ultimates have some of the best players and you probably dont qualify. when vegas posts the main event morning lines, the favorite to win the 100K this year isn't even listed in greg's first post. (and no it's not you!!) [/QUOTE]Maybe your a little bitter about getting your ass whooped by yours truly in the only sat league i played. i dont guess that counts for nothing, but hey , ill take the money anyway.

Gordon Gekko II · Post by **Gordon Gekko II** » Fri Jan 16, 2009 3:06 am

Originally posted by KLN:

quote:Originally posted by Gordon Gekko II:

quote:Originally posted by KLN:

The ultimates have some of the best players and you probably dont qualify. when vegas posts the main event morning lines, the favorite to win the 100K this year isn't even listed in greg's first post. (and no it's not you!!) [/QUOTE]Maybe your a little bitter about getting your ass whooped by yours truly in the only sat league i played. i dont guess that counts for nothing, but hey , ill take the money anyway. [/QUOTE]it sounds like that's your career best accomplishment

Greg Ambrosius · Post by **Greg Ambrosius** » Fri Jan 16, 2009 3:06 am

Originally posted by Gordon Gekko II:

maybe something like this...

To qualify for nomination into NFBC HOF after 10 years:

6+ main event league titles

5 main event league titles + (1 ultimate league title or 1 super league title or 1 $1,300 auction league title)

4 main event league titles + (2 ultimate league titles or 2 super league titles or 2 $1,300 auction league titles)

3 main event league titles + (3 ultimate league titles or 3 super league titles or 3 $1,300 auction league titles)

3 main event league titles + (1 100K championship)

2 main event league titles + (2 100K championships) Nah, common sense my friend, common sense. That will determine the right people for this. I would say that 2 $100,000 titles would be like the 3,000-hit club: YOU'RE AUTOMATICALLY IN!!! : Five league titles in 10 years would be like the 500-Home Run Club: YOU'RE AUTOMATICALLY IN!! The other side events and folks who dominate those are like the 3,000-strikeout club (not a guarantee for the Hall), saves leaders (not a guarantee), stolen base leaders, etc. But add them altogether and you can see a HOF member when you look at their accomplishments. Make sense?

headhunters · Post by **headhunters** » Fri Jan 16, 2009 3:50 am

greg. i have always agreed with our founding fathers- voting should not be open to all. that list is a great list. everyone could debate it- but it should never be open to a vote by "the masses". just looking at the hall of fame votes is enough for me. great job.

Hard Heads · Post by **Hard Heads** » Fri Jan 16, 2009 3:54 am

It would be cool to see a release of who was on the ballots. Who was doing the voting and who they voted for with there reasons.

NorCalAtlFan · Post by **NorCalAtlFan** » Fri Jan 16, 2009 4:26 am

Originally posted by Gordon Gekko II:

quote:Originally posted by KLN:

quote:Originally posted by Gordon Gekko II:

quote:Originally posted by KLN:

The ultimates have some of the best players and you probably dont qualify. when vegas posts the main event morning lines, the favorite to win the 100K this year isn't even listed in greg's first post. (and no it's not you!!) [/QUOTE]Maybe your a little bitter about getting your ass whooped by yours truly in the only sat league i played. i dont guess that counts for nothing, but hey , ill take the money anyway. [/QUOTE]it sounds like that's your career best accomplishment

[/QUOTE]Again, where's Snake when you need him? :rolleyes:

Gordon Gekko II · Post by **Gordon Gekko II** » Fri Jan 16, 2009 4:28 am

Originally posted by NorCalAtlFan:

Again, where's Snake when you need him? :rolleyes: maybe you and snake should get a room (if u haven't already)

greg doesn't need him to take out this board too

NorCalAtlFan · Post by **NorCalAtlFan** » Fri Jan 16, 2009 4:36 am

He seemed to be your kryptonite. 2 peas in a pod, so ironic you would be so bothered by him.

Greg Ambrosius · Post by **Greg Ambrosius** » Fri Jan 16, 2009 4:37 am

No reptiles allowed in baseball.

I can't even read my football boards anymore, which is a shame. Now let's all behave so that we don't see the NFBC boards go in the same direction.

[ January 16, 2009, 10:38 AM: Message edited by: Greg Ambrosius ]

Gordon Gekko II · Post by **Gordon Gekko II** » Fri Jan 16, 2009 4:41 am

Originally posted by NorCalAtlFan:

He seemed to be your kryptonite. 2 peas in a pod, so ironic you would be so bothered by him. snake already caused numerous people to leave the nffc boards. core players with big cash streams. hopefully greg won't see any of these players leave his contest because of snake, but if they left the MB, you know what's next.

if snake were to get on these boards and behave like he does on the nffc boards, i (and many others would be gone).

if you think i'm BSing, go ahead and give greg a call. he'll fill you in.

Gordon Gekko II · Post by **Gordon Gekko II** » Fri Jan 16, 2009 4:42 am

Originally posted by Greg Ambrosius:

No reptiles allowed in baseball.

I can't even read my football boards anymore, which is a shame. Now let's all behave so that we don't see the NFBC boards go in the same direction. ditto and amen!

NorCalAtlFan · Post by **NorCalAtlFan** » Fri Jan 16, 2009 4:50 am

Relax Nancy. I don't know Snake nor the carnage he inspired. I just find it amusing the pot and kettle getting into it. From what I hear anyways

Gordon Gekko II · Post by **Gordon Gekko II** » Fri Jan 16, 2009 5:03 am

Originally posted by NorCalAtlFan:

Relax Nancy. I don't know Snake nor the carnage he inspired. no problem Sally. fight your own battles instead of calling on someone else

NorCalAtlFan · Post by **NorCalAtlFan** » Fri Jan 16, 2009 5:05 am

You are nothing if not consistent. That's what we love about you. Stay golden kid.

fandango · Post by **fandango** » Sat Jan 17, 2009 2:20 am

Originally posted by Gordon Gekko II:

quote:Originally posted by bjoak:

One suggestion might be to have NFBC members with five or more years of service time vote on who is to be inducted. That way a lot more people get to be part of the process and the inductees will get to enjoy the recognition by their peers. could turn into a popularity contest. people like walla walla or fandango could win the 100K twice and not get enough votes [/QUOTE]funny thing GEEKo, i was thinking the same thing about you....

werent you the one getting death threats on your email not me?

only complaint i ever got was i drank to much at the draft....your complaint list is too long...

cant wait to whip you soundly again when me meet head to head..thanks for your donation

DOUGHBOYS · Post by **DOUGHBOYS** » Sat Jan 17, 2009 2:25 am

So Greg, how is that weather in Wisconsin?

Greg Ambrosius · Post by **Greg Ambrosius** » Sat Jan 17, 2009 2:36 am

Originally posted by DOUGHBOYS:

So Greg, how is that weather in Wisconsin? This is freakin' unreal. We had a low of -21 yesterday with a wind chill of -45. It was only -7 this morning and a heat wave is coming today as we'll hit a high of 18. You'd think it's too cold to snow, but somehow it's snowing now and we're expected to get 2-4 inches. This whole week was sub-zero (high of -2 yesterday) and now it's snowing. It never ends.

The Great Depression had the Dust Bowl. The Great Recession has the Big Freeze and the Big Blizzard. Let's just hope this ends soon. March can't come soon enough.

Gordon Gekko II · Post by **Gordon Gekko II** » Sat Jan 17, 2009 2:51 am

Originally posted by fandango:

quote:Originally posted by Gordon Gekko II:

quote:Originally posted by bjoak:

One suggestion might be to have NFBC members with five or more years of service time vote on who is to be inducted. That way a lot more people get to be part of the process and the inductees will get to enjoy the recognition by their peers. could turn into a popularity contest. people like walla walla or fandango could win the 100K twice and not get enough votes [/QUOTE]funny thing GEEKo, i was thinking the same thing about you....

werent you the one getting death threats on your email not me?

only complaint i ever got was i drank to much at the draft....your complaint list is too long...

cant wait to whip you soundly again when me meet head to head..thanks for your donation [/QUOTE]death threats??? you must be drinking now.

#387 (out of 390 teams)- Fandango - Scott Simonetti - New York League 1

it takes a total lack of skill to be THAT bad. you're history pal.

Gordon Gekko II · Post by **Gordon Gekko II** » Sat Jan 17, 2009 2:52 am

Originally posted by fandango:

only complaint i ever got was i drank to much at the draft....your complaint list is too long...

u forgot the rest...

you drink too much and turn into an a-hole

DOUGHBOYS · Post by **DOUGHBOYS** » Sat Jan 17, 2009 2:55 am

Originally posted by Greg Ambrosius:

quote:Originally posted by DOUGHBOYS:

So Greg, how is that weather in Wisconsin? This is freakin' unreal. We had a low of -21 yesterday with a wind chill of -45. It was only -7 this morning and a heat wave is coming today as we'll hit a high of 18. You'd think it's too cold to snow, but somehow it's snowing now and we're expected to get 2-4 inches. This whole week was sub-zero (high of -2 yesterday) and now it's snowing. It never ends.

The Great Depression had the Dust Bowl. The Great Recession has the Big Freeze and the Big Blizzard. Let's just hope this ends soon. March can't come soon enough. [/QUOTE]It's been great here. We've missed the arctic blasts and only the ski areas are getting the big time snow. As mother nature intended.

Liquidhippo · Post by **Liquidhippo** » Sat Jan 17, 2009 3:25 am

Originally posted by Gordon Gekko II:

quote:Originally posted by KLN:

GG what have you got against the people that play in the ultimate leagues. If the comp is not worthy then why dont you enter. A great player like you should win every time, not. If you not playing in these leagues maybe you shoudnt comment on the level of competion. The ultimates have some of the best players and you probably dont qualify. perhaps u didn't read my post. i don't have anything against them. the comp is stronger in that league. however there's no getting away with the fact that the ultimate champ is only beating 14 people, not 300 or 400.

in addition, if the Ult league is given too much value in the HOF voting, 'poor' people who have enough money to just play the main will lose out.

that's why there should be different wings to the Hall of Fame...

1. Main Event

2. Ult lgs

3. Auction lgs [/QUOTE]True, in the Ultimate Leagues you're only beating 14 people, but honestly, in my humble opinion, in essence, that's all you're doing in the Main Event. You can outscore the 300-400 other teams, but there's no direct competition that I can see. Each individual draft is entirely different, often radically different, thus the pool of available players at any given point in time during the draft is entirely different, for FAAB as well, the pool of available players at any point in time is different, etc.

I'd liken it unto taking the scoring totals for all of the baseball teams on a given day.

Cardinals 11 Rockies 4

Mets 7 Dodgers 2

Indians 4 Tigers 0

Red Sox 6 Yankees 5

etc.

Now the Cardinals definitely scored more runs than the Mets that day, no disputing that, but did they compete against and defeat the Mets, Dogders, Indians, Tigers, Red Sox & Yankees? In my opinion, they did not.

That's not to take anything away from the Shawn Childs or Gordon Gekkos of the World who have consistently placed well in the NFBC Main Overall Standings. You guys are setting the bar and thus deserve praise. I just don't see it as a 'defeat' of the other 300+ teams, rather it's scoring more against different opponents/teams.