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CC's Desperados · Post by **CC's Desperados** » Thu Jan 29, 2009 11:35 am

Originally posted by RoundTrippers:

Single ... attended Southern University ... established scholarship foundation at the Love Tabernacle Church of God in Christ (Altamonte Springs, FL) ... was a finalist for the 2003 Sullivan Award as the United States top amateur athlete ... earned the prestigious Golden Spikes Award in 2003 as the best amateur player in the United States ... named 2003 Baseball America's College Player of the Year ... earned the Rotary Smith Award in 2003 ... earned the 2003 Dick Howser Trophy from the National Collegiate Baseball Writers Association ... two time All-American selection ... ranked first among college players as the best athlete, best five-tool talent and best pure hitter and second as the best power hitter and fastest baserunner in Baseball America's 2003 rankings of the top 100 prospects ... led the country in hitting during the 2002 (.495) and 2003 (.479) collegiate seasons ... set an NCAA Division I mark with .473 career batting average ... was the Southwestern Athletic Conference's (SWAC) Most Outstanding Hitter in 2003 ... was a unanimous selection for SWAC Player of the Year in 2002 and 2003

WOW!!!!! Is that what happened to me last year? Were you sending this to me subconsciously?

With KJ's Brain science, I think he intercepted some of the feed!

Gordon Gekko II · Post by **Gordon Gekko II** » Thu Jan 29, 2009 11:36 am

Originally posted by CC's Desperados:

After your bashing of Matt Wieters, is it safe to say he won't be drafted by you in the first 10 rounds? first ten, no.

second ten, no.

third ten, probably.

CC's Desperados · Post by **CC's Desperados** » Thu Jan 29, 2009 11:37 am

Originally posted by Gordon Gekko II:

quote:Originally posted by CC's Desperados:

After your bashing of Matt Wieters, is it safe to say he won't be drafted by you in the first 10 rounds? first ten, no.

second ten, no.

third ten, probably. [/QUOTE]Book it!!

Gordon Gekko II · Post by **Gordon Gekko II** » Thu Jan 29, 2009 11:38 am

Originally posted by RoundTrippers:

Single ... attended Southern University ... established scholarship foundation at the Love Tabernacle Church of God in Christ (Altamonte Springs, FL) ... was a finalist for the 2003 Sullivan Award as the United States top amateur athlete ... earned the prestigious Golden Spikes Award in 2003 as the best amateur player in the United States ... named 2003 Baseball America's College Player of the Year ... earned the Rotary Smith Award in 2003 ... earned the 2003 Dick Howser Trophy from the National Collegiate Baseball Writers Association ... two time All-American selection ... ranked first among college players as the best athlete, best five-tool talent and best pure hitter and second as the best power hitter and fastest baserunner in Baseball America's 2003 rankings of the top 100 prospects ... led the country in hitting during the 2002 (.495) and 2003 (.479) collegiate seasons ... set an NCAA Division I mark with .473 career batting average ... was the Southwestern Athletic Conference's (SWAC) Most Outstanding Hitter in 2003 ... was a unanimous selection for SWAC Player of the Year in 2002 and 2003

WOW!!!!! all that and he hit .235 2 years ago and .234 last year. i could be wrong, but i see the makings of a trend!!

Gordon Gekko II · Post by **Gordon Gekko II** » Thu Jan 29, 2009 11:39 am

Question via PM – “Gek, your magazine team looks pretty good. Who would you consider your best pick?”

Maybe not my best, but I’d have to say I’m very happy with my 24th round selection of Dave Purcey. He’s been a K pitcher in the minors and had a good 2nd half last year in the majors. I imagine come March he’ll be going in the teens.

751542 · Post by **751542** » Thu Jan 29, 2009 11:39 am

dorothy this isnt kansas anymore = welcome to the world of wooden bats!!

Gordon Gekko II · Post by **Gordon Gekko II** » Thu Jan 29, 2009 11:40 am

Originally posted by CC's Desperados:

quote:Originally posted by Gordon Gekko II:

quote:Originally posted by CC's Desperados:

After your bashing of Matt Wieters, is it safe to say he won't be drafted by you in the first 10 rounds? first ten, no.

second ten, no.

third ten, probably. [/QUOTE]Book it!! [/QUOTE]what round would you select him Shawn?

[ January 29, 2009, 05:40 PM: Message edited by: Gordon Gekko II ]

751542 · Post by **751542** » Thu Jan 29, 2009 11:42 am

cmon gek...shawn doesnt kiss n tell. he provides info not picks or vital info on how he feels about "his" players...gek u know better!!

CC's Desperados · Post by **CC's Desperados** » Thu Jan 29, 2009 11:43 am

Originally posted by Gordon Gekko II:

quote:Originally posted by CC's Desperados:

quote:Originally posted by Gordon Gekko II:

quote:Originally posted by CC's Desperados:

After your bashing of Matt Wieters, is it safe to say he won't be drafted by you in the first 10 rounds? first ten, no.

second ten, no.

third ten, probably. [/QUOTE]Book it!! [/QUOTE]what round would you select him Shawn? [/QUOTE]I can't remember if I'm a fan or not!

Gordon Gekko II · Post by **Gordon Gekko II** » Thu Jan 29, 2009 11:43 am

Originally posted by RoundTrippers:

cmon gek...shawn doesnt kiss n tell. he provides info not picks or vital info on how he feels about "his" players...gek u know better!! RT - who places higher this year in the main, you or childs?

mrhambone · Post by **mrhambone** » Thu Jan 29, 2009 11:46 am

What's your take on Eric Byrnes this year. Is he a value pick, injury risk, someone to flat out avoid?

What round would you start to look at him?

CC's Desperados · Post by **CC's Desperados** » Thu Jan 29, 2009 11:46 am

Originally posted by Gordon Gekko II:

quote:Originally posted by RoundTrippers:

cmon gek...shawn doesnt kiss n tell. he provides info not picks or vital info on how he feels about "his" players...gek u know better!! RT - who places higher this year in the main, you or childs? [/QUOTE]RT-He has more free time and he has a job!

751542 · Post by **751542** » Thu Jan 29, 2009 11:48 am

childs....atleast that is what i keep telling myself to stay inspired....his info on baseball mafia.com has given me a huge edge against him this year...hopefully we stay away from eachother in the main..he kicked my ars last year. he is a great competetor as well as yourself...

?? gek have you seen the falling prices of hotel rates and flights to vegas?? is that enough for you to come to vegas?? they are giving away those rooms...you would be stealing from them!

Gordon Gekko II · Post by **Gordon Gekko II** » Thu Jan 29, 2009 11:48 am

Originally posted by mrhambone:

What's your take on Eric Byrnes this year. Is he a value pick, injury risk, someone to flat out avoid?

What round would you start to look at him? last night he went in the 15th round. i'd probably consider around 20 or so. the problem with him is where is he getting his PT and is he healthy?

he could move up quickly in march if PT is less of a question and he looks healthy.

Gordon Gekko II · Post by **Gordon Gekko II** » Thu Jan 29, 2009 11:49 am

Originally posted by RoundTrippers:

?? gek have you seen the falling prices of hotel rates and flights to vegas?? is that enough for you to come to vegas?? they are giving away those rooms...you would be stealing from them! ya, i've seen it. i already have my hotel rooms booked in NYC. nonrefundable.

Gordon Gekko II · Post by **Gordon Gekko II** » Thu Jan 29, 2009 11:51 am

alright folks it was a GREAT hour. hopefully i helped some of you (just not too much)! thanks for taking the time to post or read.

eddiejag · Post by **eddiejag** » Thu Jan 29, 2009 11:59 am

Gordon ive seen Ludwick go in the 4th round in one draft then the 9th round in another,thoughts on him.

PUT these pitchers in the right order.

David Price

Jon Lester

Verlander

Joba

Danks

Does Alexei Rameriz deserve top three round respect.

Crazy Like a Fox · Post by **Crazy Like a Fox** » Thu Jan 29, 2009 12:03 pm

Originally posted by Gordon Gekko II:

quote:Originally posted by mrhambone:

What's your take on Eric Byrnes this year. Is he a value pick, injury risk, someone to flat out avoid?

What round would you start to look at him? last night he went in the 15th round. i'd probably consider around 20 or so. the problem with him is where is he getting his PT and is he healthy?

he could move up quickly in march if PT is less of a question and he looks healthy. [/QUOTE]Bob Melvin stated in December that Byrnes will start the year on the bench. I believe if he's motivated and healthy enough, and gets enough playing time, he could be good for .260-25-90-25 stolen base, pretty close to what you'd expect out of Jayson Werth who's going as early as the 7th round.

But there are so many question marks surrounding him. My estimation is that statement was made so early after the season ended as to burn a fire under his butt to get ready for the season. I don't see them benching a guy their paying $11,000,000 in 2009. I believe they will make room for him or trade him. All these question marks definitely put him in Round 15-20's, but he could give 6th or 7th round value if everything falls into place. That's why early drafts are so tough. How do you have a "great draft" in January without more luck being involved? Lots of information is missing that can be received in the midst of March. I guess it's an even playing field as everyone is drafting based on a lack of information. Just my take.

Bama · Post by **Bama** » Thu Jan 29, 2009 12:06 pm

Originally posted by Gordon Gekko II:

ask me anything you want about fantasy baseball. even about my draft last night. or about my big ego? do i really have an ego? how about how much would you charge for a GG NFBC main event cheatsheet?

How much is a sheet of toilet paper worth.

Greg Ambrosius · Post by **Greg Ambrosius** » Thu Jan 29, 2009 12:08 pm

Originally posted by CC's Desperados:

quote:Originally posted by Gordon Gekko II:

quote:Originally posted by RoundTrippers:

cmon gek...shawn doesnt kiss n tell. he provides info not picks or vital info on how he feels about "his" players...gek u know better!! RT - who places higher this year in the main, you or childs? [/QUOTE]RT-He has more free time and he has a job! [/QUOTE]Hell, we may all find out if they end up in the same league again. Gotta love the competition in Vegas.

751542 · Post by **751542** » Thu Jan 29, 2009 12:09 pm

Originally posted by CC's Desperados:

quote:Originally posted by Gordon Gekko II:

quote:Originally posted by RoundTrippers:

cmon gek...shawn doesnt kiss n tell. he provides info not picks or vital info on how he feels about "his" players...gek u know better!! RT - who places higher this year in the main, you or childs? [/QUOTE]RT-He has more free time and he has a job! [/QUOTE]thanks george w!!!!

sportsbettingman · Post by **sportsbettingman** » Thu Jan 29, 2009 12:45 pm

Sorry, I missed the time frame.

GG...

1) How do you lay out your NFBC main cheatsheet/laptop computer ranking list? (colored tiers, blocks of players, by position, by auction values, with or without NFBC $$$ sat. ADP's, etc.

2) Who do you talk serious baseball with...

a) via PM?

b) via e-mail?

c) via phone?

(not just chatter, but idea bouncing and more)

~Lance

Captain Hook · Post by **Captain Hook** » Thu Jan 29, 2009 12:50 pm

Originally posted by Crazy Like a Fox:

quote:Originally posted by Gordon Gekko II:

quote:Originally posted by mrhambone:

What's your take on Eric Byrnes this year. Is he a value pick, injury risk, someone to flat out avoid?

What round would you start to look at him? last night he went in the 15th round. i'd probably consider around 20 or so. the problem with him is where is he getting his PT and is he healthy?

he could move up quickly in march if PT is less of a question and he looks healthy. [/QUOTE]Bob Melvin stated in December that Byrnes will start the year on the bench. [/QUOTE]That is NOT correct Crazy - Melvin has said that he wants to play all four OF - Jackson, Byrnes, Young and Upton.....so Byrnes is really the jack of all trades there...playing one day in left, once day in center, one day in right and then a day off and repeat............of course that assumes that all four are healthy; that Chad Tracy hits enough in spring to justify this plan; that there are no injuries; and that all four are playing well. First one with real problems may be sitting more than the other OF.

Crazy Like a Fox · Post by **Crazy Like a Fox** » Thu Jan 29, 2009 1:16 pm

Originally posted by Captain Hook:

quote:Originally posted by Crazy Like a Fox:

quote:Originally posted by Gordon Gekko II:

quote:Originally posted by mrhambone:

What's your take on Eric Byrnes this year. Is he a value pick, injury risk, someone to flat out avoid?

What round would you start to look at him? last night he went in the 15th round. i'd probably consider around 20 or so. the problem with him is where is he getting his PT and is he healthy?

he could move up quickly in march if PT is less of a question and he looks healthy. [/QUOTE]Bob Melvin stated in December that Byrnes will start the year on the bench. [/QUOTE]That is NOT correct Crazy - Melvin has said that he wants to play all four OF - Jackson, Byrnes, Young and Upton.....so Byrnes is really the jack of all trades there...playing one day in left, once day in center, one day in right and then a day off and repeat............of course that assumes that all four are healthy; that Chad Tracy hits enough in spring to justify this plan; that there are no injuries; and that all four are playing well. First one with real problems may be sitting more than the other OF. [/QUOTE]It was based on this article I read. Maybe I read it wrong.

Title of Story:

Melvin: Byrnes to start year on bench

Jack Magruder, Tribune December 8, 2008 - 11:10PM

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LAS VEGAS - Two years after becoming the 11th player in major league history to hit 20 home runs and steal 50 bases in the same season, Eric Byrnes has become the Diamondbacks’ 10th man.

Conor Jackson will be the D-Backs’ regular left fielder this season, manager Bob Melvin said Monday, and Chad Tracy will start at first, leaving Byrnes to fend for playing time at all three outfield spots.

The majority of Byrnes’ starts could come when Jackson takes a turn at first base to give Tracy time off against the occasional left-hander, Melvin said.

Byrnes sees it as a challenge, Melvin said, and does not expect anything to be given to him after hamstring injuries plagued him all last season and caused him to miss the final three months.

“He kind of comes into a situation where he was a couple of years ago when he came to the Diamondbacks — he is not afraid of competition,” Melvin said of Byrnes.

“I think he looks at it as an opportunity to go out and win a job.”

It is not quite the same. Byrnes came to the D-Backs in 2006 expecting to be the starting center fielder, although he was coming off a down season that included three teams and two stops.

With their excess of quality outfielders/first basemen, the D-Backs are in a position to deal Byrnes, a move that would free up $22 million, $11 million in each of the next two years, but that appears unlikely, even if Byrnes were to waive his complete no-trade clause.

While the market has not been defined, there does not seem to be much interest in Byrnes, although Miguel Montero and Tracy, to a lesser extent, have their suitors.