Friday Afternoon Chat

Tom Kessenich · Post by **Tom Kessenich** » Fri Feb 06, 2009 7:01 am

We have more than 50 people on the boards and we're putting the finishing touches on our second baseball issue so if folks are interested I'll be here to chat for awhile this afternoon. We can talk baseball, the NFBC, whatever's on your mind.

So who's with me?

Gordon Gekko II · Post by **Gordon Gekko II** » Fri Feb 06, 2009 7:30 am

J.Chamberlain or D.Price?

Papelbon or KROD?

Beltran or Soriano?

Granderson or Bruce?

Tom Kessenich · Post by **Tom Kessenich** » Fri Feb 06, 2009 7:32 am

Originally posted by Gordon Gekko II:

J.Chamberlain or D.Price?

Papelbon or KROD?

Beltran or Soriano?

Granderson or Bruce? 1. I'd go Price. I think he has higher upside because he's guaranteed to start all season.

2. Papelbon. But you can't go wrong either way.

3. Beltran.

4. Granderson

ALL-IN JD · Post by **ALL-IN JD** » Fri Feb 06, 2009 7:36 am

Tom, with the offense that the Yankees have, dont you think it would be prudent to put Gardner in center and rotate the other three corner outfielders (Nady,Damon, Matsui and Swisher) between LF, RF and DH? Gardner would provide great defense and great speed from the ninth spot in the order. Also, with the age and injury history of Damon and Matsui I would think having four guys for three spots could keep everyone fresh. I really have no desire to see Damon or Swisher in center.

Tom Kessenich · Post by **Tom Kessenich** » Fri Feb 06, 2009 7:39 am

Originally posted by fireballs:

Tom, with the offense that the Yankees have, dont you think it would be prudent to put Gardner in center and rotate the other three corner outfielders (Nady,Damon, Matsui and Swisher) between LF, RF and DH? Gardner would provide great defense and great speed from the ninth spot in the order. Also, with the age and injury history of Damon and Matsui I would think having four guys for three spots could keep everyone fresh. I really have no desire to see Damon or Swisher in center. As of today it looks like it will be Swisher in CF. I'm not sure that's the right way to go but they have a glut of outfielders and they have to figure out where to play them all. I do think it will be good to keep everyone fresh like you said but if everyone is healthy I think their best four OFs are Damon, Matsui, Nady and Swisher. I'm not a big Swisher fan but he would bring another power threat to their lineup (and plenty of strikeouts too).

ALL-IN JD · Post by **ALL-IN JD** » Fri Feb 06, 2009 7:52 am

I think my 8 year old has a better arm than Johnny Damon!!

GOD Loves You · Post by **GOD Loves You** » Fri Feb 06, 2009 7:58 am

Originally posted by fireballs:

I think my 8 year old has a better arm than Johnny Damon!! Remember the Boston T-shirts after he went to N.Y.?

Looks like Jesus

Throws like Mary

Acts like Judas

GOD Loves You · Post by **GOD Loves You** » Fri Feb 06, 2009 8:03 am

Better value

Alex Gordon or Kevin Kouzmanoff?

Who steals more

Jacoby Ellsury or Carlos Gomez?

Better season?

Justin Mourneau or Adrian Gonzalez?

Gracias!

Tom Kessenich · Post by **Tom Kessenich** » Fri Feb 06, 2009 8:03 am

Originally posted by fireballs:

I think my 8 year old has a better arm than Johnny Damon!! I've seen your son. That wouldn't surprise me at all.

But the Yankees are back in fantasy mode. They're grabbing players and not paying any heed to whether they have a team. That's failed them in the past and it wouldn't surprise me if it fails them again this season.

Tom Kessenich · Post by **Tom Kessenich** » Fri Feb 06, 2009 8:05 am

Originally posted by GOD Loves You:

Better value

Alex Gordon or Kevin Kouzmanoff?

Who steals more

Jacoby Ellsury or Carlos Gomez?

Better season?

Justin Mourneau or Adrian Gonzalez?

Gracias! 1. Kouzmanoff. I think his ceiling is higher.

2. Ellsbury. He'll run and run and run and is on a great team.

3. Morneau will provide better all-around numbers. He's the superior hitter. But if you put Gonzalez in a hitter's park I think he could deliver 40 HRs consistently.

ALL-IN JD · Post by **ALL-IN JD** » Fri Feb 06, 2009 8:09 am

List these pitchers in order from greatest to least saves this year:

Putz

Arendondo

Rauch

Corpas

Zumaya

Izzy

Balfour

Tom Kessenich · Post by **Tom Kessenich** » Fri Feb 06, 2009 8:12 am

Originally posted by fireballs:

List these pitchers in order from greatest to least saves this year:

Putz

Arendondo

Rauch

Corpas

Zumaya

Izzy

Balfour Corpas

Rauch

Arrendondo

Balfour

Putz

Isringhausen

Zumaya

I'll add that the only ones I'd chase for potential saves are the first three. Not sure the rest will be of much help in that category.

sportsbettingman · Post by **sportsbettingman** » Fri Feb 06, 2009 8:14 am

I see Gordon with a much better ceiling than Kouz.

I project Alex to mature into a .500 + slugger with 15 SB potential...both much better than Kevin.

I also see Milledge breaking out this year. I think they figured out how to hit MLB pitching as 2008 wore on, and it will show in 2009.

~Lance

Edwards Kings · Post by **Edwards Kings** » Fri Feb 06, 2009 8:16 am

Anyone can pick a player from Boston, but every year there is a "hot" team that puts together a surprising season and many players on that team seem to exceed expectations. Such as the Tampa Bay Devil Rays.

What team is it gonna be this year?

Edwards Kings · Post by **Edwards Kings** » Fri Feb 06, 2009 8:17 am

Originally posted by sportsbettingman:

I see Gordon with a much better ceiling than Kouz.

I project Alex to mature into a .500 + slugger with 15 SB potential...both much better than Kevin.

I also see Milledge breaking out this year. I think they figured out how to hit MLB pitching as 2008 wore on, and it will show in 2009.

~Lance But will Gordon ever hit for much average?

bjoak · Post by **bjoak** » Fri Feb 06, 2009 8:17 am

What is the Kessinich effect (i.e. something you've been telling people about baseball for years but you can't quite get most people to believe you)? For example, the Doughboy effect would be that fat dudes don't get hurt as often.

[ February 06, 2009, 02:19 PM: Message edited by: bjoak ]

Tom Kessenich · Post by **Tom Kessenich** » Fri Feb 06, 2009 8:19 am

Originally posted by bjoak:

What is the Kessinich effect (i.e. something you've been telling people about baseball for years but you can't quite get most people to believe you)? Well first off, it's Kessenich. Seriously, not sure I have anything like that when it comes to baseball. It's possible I can't get people to believe I do this for a living. But I do. And I like it.

sportsbettingman · Post by **sportsbettingman** » Fri Feb 06, 2009 8:22 am

Originally posted by Edwards Kings:

Anyone can pick a player from Boston, but every year there is a "hot" team that puts together a surprising season and many players on that team seem to exceed expectations. Such as the Tampa Bay Devil Rays.

What team is it gonna be this year? I have a gut feeling the Marlins offense will have value.

~Lance

Walla Walla · Post by **Walla Walla** » Fri Feb 06, 2009 8:25 am

Tom, Do see the Message as family friendly or should it be for 21 and older?

Tom Kessenich · Post by **Tom Kessenich** » Fri Feb 06, 2009 8:26 am

Originally posted by Walla Walla:

Tom, Do see the Message as family friendly or should it be for 21 and older? What's the Message?

Walla Walla · Post by **Walla Walla** » Fri Feb 06, 2009 8:31 am

SORRY MESSEGE BOARD>

Edwards Kings · Post by **Edwards Kings** » Fri Feb 06, 2009 8:32 am

Originally posted by sportsbettingman:

quote:Originally posted by Edwards Kings:

Anyone can pick a player from Boston, but every year there is a "hot" team that puts together a surprising season and many players on that team seem to exceed expectations. Such as the Tampa Bay Devil Rays.

What team is it gonna be this year? I have a gut feeling the Marlins offense will have value.

~Lance [/QUOTE]The Fish may be the only team in baseball that has only one player hit above .260 as regular players.

Tom Kessenich · Post by **Tom Kessenich** » Fri Feb 06, 2009 8:32 am

Originally posted by Walla Walla:

SORRY MESSEGE BOARD> Ahh ok. It's family friendly. That's how Greg and I view it and how we hope everyone here treats it.

Walla Walla · Post by **Walla Walla** » Fri Feb 06, 2009 8:36 am

OK, So the word Pimp would be way out of line than. Example Perry Van Pimp ????

Tom Kessenich · Post by **Tom Kessenich** » Fri Feb 06, 2009 8:37 am

Originally posted by Walla Walla:

OK, So the word Pimp would be way out of line than. Example Perry Van Pimp ???? As long as Perry doesn't have a problem with that, I think that would be ok.