Is Josh Hamilton better than Carlos Quentin?

Crazy Like a Fox · Post by **Crazy Like a Fox** » Mon Feb 23, 2009 4:30 am

Originally posted by Edwards Kings:

quote:Originally posted by Gordon Gekko II:

the researchers at GG Industries have told me there is no chance for a drug relapse. This has been a great thread. Sorry to have missed it yesterday.

No offense, but "no chance for a drug relapse" means one got by the brain trust at GG Industries. Anyone with a history of addiction has to deal with it every day. And most have a hard time with it during the course of a "normal" life. Hamilton may be able to control it, but he can never beat it. He has to live with the pressures of that desire, that addiction for the rest of his life.

And his life is not normal. He is a MLB player, a star, with unlimited pressures and nearly unlimited funds. Sounds like he has a great support group and that is certainly important, but a prolonged slump, a nagging injury, or an unforseen personal challenge gives Hamilton so much more pressure than most other addicts have to deal with.

That being said, I like Hamilton as much as I like any other ballplayer who has succeeded for one year in MLB. He does carry risk, but personally I place that risk lower than Quentin and his wrist injury. Even simple wrist injuries can drain power even after every thing is "fine". Just what is your tolerance for risk? Hamilton will be gone in the first. Quentin will be gone in the third. Maybe the thread should be Hamilton vs Braun or Quentin vs Markakis? If those are my choices, I for one am going Braun/Markakis. [/QUOTE]Great post. I think you are probably right in regards to the wrist injury. There is some risk of course. What intrigued me the most were the incredible comparisons between the two combined with Hamilton's value being bloated IMHO due to his incredible comeback.

I just thought regardless of Quentin's wrist injury (it could have been a stomach virus) Quentin would be heavily discounted compared to Hamilton, don't you think?

In hindsight it would have been more beneficial to compare Josh Hamilton and Carlos Lee, with Lee being a much, much safer pick.

I think this thread has morphed into why Hamilton should not be a 1st round pick. Most were talking about his drug addiction or other player's who might compare favorably going later. My biggest point is he has shown us one healthy year in his life and suddenly people are taking him before 99% of all the players.

Whether you play in a $125 entry league, a $1,300 entry league, or even a $5,000 entry leugue, is it worth your season to take that risk? But I digress.

It was a fun thread and interesting to hear everyone's view.

Edwards Kings · Post by **Edwards Kings** » Mon Feb 23, 2009 6:43 am

Originally posted by Crazy Like a Fox:

I just thought regardless of Quentin's wrist injury (it could have been a stomach virus) Quentin would be heavily discounted compared to Hamilton, don't you think?Good question and the honest answer is I am not sure. If Quentin hadn't gotten injured, and completed the year he would be going higher for sure. Higher than Hamilton? Maybe, maybe not, but he could be cracking the first round. But then again, I am a little surprised that the Hamilton, with his August BA swoon, his September power swoon and the fact he has fulfilled his promise one year, is being being shown the love he is. I guess that RBI number last year is too much to ignore.

[ February 23, 2009, 12:44 PM: Message edited by: Edwards Kings ]

Crazy Like a Fox · Post by **Crazy Like a Fox** » Mon Feb 23, 2009 4:25 pm

Originally posted by Edwards Kings:

quote:Originally posted by Crazy Like a Fox:

I just thought regardless of Quentin's wrist injury (it could have been a stomach virus) Quentin would be heavily discounted compared to Hamilton, don't you think?Good question and the honest answer is I am not sure. If Quentin hadn't gotten injured, and completed the year he would be going higher for sure. Higher than Hamilton? Maybe, maybe not, but he could be cracking the first round. But then again, I am a little surprised that the Hamilton, with his August BA swoon, his September power swoon and the fact he has fulfilled his promise one year, is being being shown the love he is. I guess that RBI number last year is too much to ignore. [/QUOTE]I'm not in everybody's head but I think the fact that there's not an incredible amount of information ie track record combined obviously with his big year and talent, he's just more exciting and intriguing to draft. I hate to simplify it. And I'm not trying to bash anyone who drafts him in the 1st round, I'm just a little confused by it. Especially when there's talk of him going at #8.

We're talking about top fantasy players that are all over him in the 1st round. Who knows, maybe they know something I don't. That's entirely possible.