Presenting YOUR_$100,000_Team!

Gordon Gekko II · Post by **Gordon Gekko II** » Mon Mar 23, 2009 9:41 am

Originally posted by freddiezee:

Like I said about many teams I've looked at - your team is good enough to win your league if you use the waiver wire well and plan your weekly moves properly.

As an aside, what percentage of teams drafted on Saturday are bad enough that they CAN'T win their league, even with reasonably effective waiver wire use? I say about 2 per league. And, how many teams were so well drafted on Saturday that they can win their league even with poor use of waivers? I say none.

Gekko, the only thing I wondered is if you could have left many of your picks until later and still got them? Many of them seemed to go significantly higher than their ADP, suggesting that maybe you could have added someone else really good somewhere in the first ten rounds and just bumped most of your other picks down a round.

That being said, I am a big believer in taking the highest ranked guy on your list and ignoring ADP. You only get one main event team per year, so it better be the players you want. From that perspective, you did a great job of getting guys you believe in.

Best of luck with your team this year. you are right about everything except waiting on those guys. i needed to get the guys when i did or they would not have been there. satellite adps mean nothing to me. i'm supposed to believe the adp when a large % of it is made up of "sheep" picks? the player either works or doesn't work.

if i don't get those guys when i did, my plan goes up in smoke. i think the proof is in the pudding. add up my offensive projections and i think you'll see they are good...regardless of where i picked the players.

Gordon Gekko II · Post by **Gordon Gekko II** » Mon Mar 23, 2009 9:42 am

Originally posted by Lost Sailor:

Good luck, Gek. Don't really know you, but:

-You contribute tons to this board

-Your confidence is unsurpassed.. and very entertaining

-You're not in my league

So.. I hope this team wins you the $5K. thank you!

bigdaddyk · Post by **bigdaddyk** » Mon Mar 23, 2009 9:45 am

Hey Mark nice to finally meet you in person at the draft.The one thing i've learned with these drafts is that after pick 25 you can throw out ADP rankings in the trash.You have to reach for your "key" guys early.I too am weak on the back end of my pitching staff so i guess you and i will be bidding for the same type of free agents.Just make sure you come strong with those bids or else go home with nothing.LOL.

Schwks · Post by **Schwks** » Mon Mar 23, 2009 9:48 am

I agree with the prior poster...I was anxiously awaiting your draft results and will root for you, because every message board neeeds your persona. That said, can I see where your projections get you to 260 HR player by player?

Jim Young · Post by **Jim Young** » Mon Mar 23, 2009 9:50 am

wow, gecko posted his team, and within 5 hours there have already been 53 posts made on this thread. i think some people here are gecko-obsessed. i'd be careful if i was you gecko, some of these guys are crazy, like a fox that is!

Gordon Gekko II · Post by **Gordon Gekko II** » Mon Mar 23, 2009 9:51 am

Originally posted by bigdaddyk:

Hey Mark nice to finally meet you in person at the draft.The one thing i've learned with these drafts is that after pick 25 you can throw out ADP rankings in the trash.You have to reach for your "key" guys early.I too am weak on the back end of my pitching staff so i guess you and i will be bidding for the same type of free agents.Just make sure you come strong with those bids or else go home with nothing.LOL. it was a blast to meet you as well. this weekend was really a bachelor party type weekend. from meeting new people, to drafting good teams to partying with tom, mike, ryan, billy, glenn, and diesel. it was perhaps the best weekend i ever had at an nfbc/nffc event. it was CLASSIC!

now back to business, when you say "I too am weak on the back end of my pitching staff"...i hope you didn't get the wrong idea, i am not weak there. that will be a strength that pushes me to the top. u gotta trust the guys you draft or why draft them at all.

Crazy Like a Fox · Post by **Crazy Like a Fox** » Mon Mar 23, 2009 9:55 am

Originally posted by Gordon Gekko II:

quote:Originally posted by bigdaddyk:

Hey Mark nice to finally meet you in person at the draft.The one thing i've learned with these drafts is that after pick 25 you can throw out ADP rankings in the trash.You have to reach for your "key" guys early.I too am weak on the back end of my pitching staff so i guess you and i will be bidding for the same type of free agents.Just make sure you come strong with those bids or else go home with nothing.LOL. it was a blast to meet you as well. this weekend was really a bachelor party type weekend. from meeting new people, to drafting good teams to partying with tom, mike, ryan, billy, glenn, and diesel. it was perhaps the best weekend i ever had at an nfbc/nffc event. it was CLASSIC!

now back to business, when you say "I too am weak on the back end of my pitching staff"...i hope you didn't get the wrong idea, i am not weak there. that will be a strength that pushes me to the top. u gotta trust the guys you draft or why draft them at all. [/QUOTE]I'm curious what kind of projections you come up for Joe Blanton, Jordan Zimmerman, Sean Marshall?

I know you can find pitching on the waiver wire but do you really trust these guys?

You know I really lika Micah.

Gordon Gekko II · Post by **Gordon Gekko II** » Mon Mar 23, 2009 10:01 am

Originally posted by Crazy Like a Fox:

quote:Originally posted by Gordon Gekko II:

quote:Originally posted by bigdaddyk:

Hey Mark nice to finally meet you in person at the draft.The one thing i've learned with these drafts is that after pick 25 you can throw out ADP rankings in the trash.You have to reach for your "key" guys early.I too am weak on the back end of my pitching staff so i guess you and i will be bidding for the same type of free agents.Just make sure you come strong with those bids or else go home with nothing.LOL. it was a blast to meet you as well. this weekend was really a bachelor party type weekend. from meeting new people, to drafting good teams to partying with tom, mike, ryan, billy, glenn, and diesel. it was perhaps the best weekend i ever had at an nfbc/nffc event. it was CLASSIC!

now back to business, when you say "I too am weak on the back end of my pitching staff"...i hope you didn't get the wrong idea, i am not weak there. that will be a strength that pushes me to the top. u gotta trust the guys you draft or why draft them at all. [/QUOTE]I'm curious what kind of projections you come up for Joe Blanton, Jordan Zimmerman, Sean Marshall?

I know you can find pitching on the waiver wire but do you really trust these guys?

You know I really lika Micah. [/QUOTE]here's what i know...

blanton - moved from al to nl. k's should go up. pitches for a good team. this year's saunders?

zimmerman - i have a man crush on young talented pitchers. zman is not too young to have success. he started throwing his slider more recently with great results! his minor league #'s don't do him justice (wasn't throwing the slider as much). i found that out when researching him.

marshall - big k guy with injury riddled harden and burnout candidate zambrano in front of him. if he gets the innings, could be H-U-G-E

Crazy Like a Fox · Post by **Crazy Like a Fox** » Mon Mar 23, 2009 10:07 am

Originally posted by Gordon Gekko II:

quote:Originally posted by Crazy Like a Fox:

quote:Originally posted by Gordon Gekko II:

quote:Originally posted by bigdaddyk:

Hey Mark nice to finally meet you in person at the draft.The one thing i've learned with these drafts is that after pick 25 you can throw out ADP rankings in the trash.You have to reach for your "key" guys early.I too am weak on the back end of my pitching staff so i guess you and i will be bidding for the same type of free agents.Just make sure you come strong with those bids or else go home with nothing.LOL. it was a blast to meet you as well. this weekend was really a bachelor party type weekend. from meeting new people, to drafting good teams to partying with tom, mike, ryan, billy, glenn, and diesel. it was perhaps the best weekend i ever had at an nfbc/nffc event. it was CLASSIC!

now back to business, when you say "I too am weak on the back end of my pitching staff"...i hope you didn't get the wrong idea, i am not weak there. that will be a strength that pushes me to the top. u gotta trust the guys you draft or why draft them at all. [/QUOTE]I'm curious what kind of projections you come up for Joe Blanton, Jordan Zimmerman, Sean Marshall?

I know you can find pitching on the waiver wire but do you really trust these guys?

You know I really lika Micah. [/QUOTE]here's what i know...

blanton - moved from al to nl. k's should go up. pitches for a good team. this year's saunders?

zimmerman - i have a man crush on young talented pitchers. zman is not too young to have success. he started throwing his slider more recently with great results! his minor league #'s don't do him justice (wasn't throwing the slider as much). i found that out when researching him.

marshall - big k guy with injury riddled harden and burnout candidate zambrano in front of him. if he gets the innings, could be H-U-G-E [/QUOTE]I don't think we totally agree here but I like the fact that you're not afraid to take a chance and you stand by your players. I am much the same (which feels weird to admit).

Glenneration X · Post by **Glenneration X** » Mon Mar 23, 2009 10:08 am

In response to the gentleman who was concerned about Gekko's ADP....he drafted from an end slot and when drafting there, sometimes you have to reach because there are 25+ picks until your next pick and the guy you want won't be there.....

I know this as I picked from the 13 spot (would have much rathered dealt with Gekko's issues from the 2 spot).

Glenn

Gordon Gekko II · Post by **Gordon Gekko II** » Mon Mar 23, 2009 10:10 am

Originally posted by Crazy Like a Fox:

I don't think we totally agree here but I like the fact that you're not afraid to take a chance and you stand by your players. I am much the same (which feels weird to admit). everything i stated is a fact or near certainity. what specifically don't you agree with from the post above?

i'm not saying these guys are going to be this year's lincecum, i'm saying they will be more valuable than people think

Gordon Gekko II · Post by **Gordon Gekko II** » Mon Mar 23, 2009 10:11 am

Originally posted by G-X:

In response to the gentleman who was concerned about Gekko's ADP....he drafted from an end slot and when drafting there, sometimes you have to reach because there are 25+ picks until your next pick and the guy you want won't be there.....

I know this as I picked from the 13 spot (would have much rathered dealt with Gekko's issues from the 2 spot).

Glenn it is tough waiting that long before your picks. if a SP or closer run starts, the end picks could be in serious trouble

Crazy Like a Fox · Post by **Crazy Like a Fox** » Mon Mar 23, 2009 10:42 am

Originally posted by Gordon Gekko II:

quote:Originally posted by Crazy Like a Fox:

quote:Originally posted by Gordon Gekko II:

quote:Originally posted by bigdaddyk:

Hey Mark nice to finally meet you in person at the draft.The one thing i've learned with these drafts is that after pick 25 you can throw out ADP rankings in the trash.You have to reach for your "key" guys early.I too am weak on the back end of my pitching staff so i guess you and i will be bidding for the same type of free agents.Just make sure you come strong with those bids or else go home with nothing.LOL. it was a blast to meet you as well. this weekend was really a bachelor party type weekend. from meeting new people, to drafting good teams to partying with tom, mike, ryan, billy, glenn, and diesel. it was perhaps the best weekend i ever had at an nfbc/nffc event. it was CLASSIC!

now back to business, when you say "I too am weak on the back end of my pitching staff"...i hope you didn't get the wrong idea, i am not weak there. that will be a strength that pushes me to the top. u gotta trust the guys you draft or why draft them at all. [/QUOTE]I'm curious what kind of projections you come up for Joe Blanton, Jordan Zimmerman, Sean Marshall?

I know you can find pitching on the waiver wire but do you really trust these guys?

You know I really lika Micah. [/QUOTE]here's what i know...

blanton - moved from al to nl. k's should go up. pitches for a good team. this year's saunders?

zimmerman - i have a man crush on young talented pitchers. zman is not too young to have success. he started throwing his slider more recently with great results! his minor league #'s don't do him justice (wasn't throwing the slider as much). i found that out when researching him.

marshall - big k guy with injury riddled harden and burnout candidate zambrano in front of him. if he gets the innings, could be H-U-G-E [/QUOTE]I see what you're saying but I personally would not want Jordan Zimmerman, Sean Marshall and Joe Blanton in the back end of my rotation. That's where we disagree.

I'd rather see a Mark Buehrle, Jesse Litsch and Anibal Sanchez at those spots, who are less risky IMHO but will definitely provide better stats.

But if you like those guys, fine. I think you'll be clinging to the waiver wire on a weekly basis to fill 2 of those 3 guys' spots.

But that's just me.

Gordon Gekko II · Post by **Gordon Gekko II** » Mon Mar 23, 2009 10:46 am

Originally posted by Crazy Like a Fox:

I'd rather see a Mark Buehrle, Jesse Litsch and Anibal Sanchez at those spots, who are less risky IMHO but will definitely provide better stats.

you can have those guys! sanchez has more walks than k's this spring. he's a bum. and the real kicker of that is that i saw a lot of owners who i respect with sanchez on their teams.

sorry, but i don't see it. again, you keep those guys, and i'll keep mine.

Dirt Dogs · Post by **Dirt Dogs** » Mon Mar 23, 2009 10:47 am

Chad Billinglsey came out of his start Monday after two innings with what's being called a mild right groin strain.

The last thing the Dodgers need right now is an injury to their best pitcher. It sounds like he could still be ready for the first week, but if not, then they'd have to pull two starters from a group that includes Eric Milton, James McDonald and Eric Stults.

Gordon Gekko II · Post by **Gordon Gekko II** » Mon Mar 23, 2009 10:48 am

Originally posted by Crazy Like a Fox:

I'd rather see a Mark Buehrle, Jesse Litsch and Anibal Sanchez at those spots, who are less risky IMHO but will definitely provide better stats.

buehrle is decent, but clearly has no upside.

litsch is decent as well, but has limited upside. pitches for a bad team in a tough division.

sanchez is just a bust.

better do more homework crazy! better yet, just copy my pics in your next satellite draft

Gordon Gekko II · Post by **Gordon Gekko II** » Mon Mar 23, 2009 10:52 am

Originally posted by Dirt Dogs:

Chad Billinglsey came out of his start Monday after two innings with what's being called a mild right groin strain.

The last thing the Dodgers need right now is an injury to their best pitcher. It sounds like he could still be ready for the first week, but if not, then they'd have to pull two starters from a group that includes Eric Milton, James McDonald and Eric Stults. i knew i could count on you to rain on the parade!

hence the need to have two aces (cbill and beckett)

Dirt Dogs · Post by **Dirt Dogs** » Mon Mar 23, 2009 11:22 am

had to do it...

good draft Mark and was nice to catch up with you at Penn Station on sunday. Best of luck and should be a nice battle this year. Team 14 in our league has a solid core team that we need to keep an eye on.

sportsbettingman · Post by **sportsbettingman** » Mon Mar 23, 2009 11:27 am

Mark "Gordon Gekko" Srebro's 2009 NFBC plan of attack!

http://break.com/index/light-up-sheep-art.html

(Extreme Sheep Herding!)

~Lance

Gordon Gekko II · Post by **Gordon Gekko II** » Mon Mar 23, 2009 11:29 am

Today's game between the Dodgers and Angels is sold out, and most of us who were coming to Tempe from Glendale got here well after 11 a.m., by which time most of the good parking spaces were long gone. As my daughter and I were walking across a distant lot on our way into the stadium, I made eye contract with a lot attendant, who was chuckling about something. He points to a very expensive sports car parked nearby and says, ``That guy's putting his uniform on in the car.'' I looked, and it was ... Chad Billingsley , today's starting pitcher for the Dodgers, who had to park his car in a public lot. I'm hoping he didn't have to pay the $5 fee that was displayed on the board as we drove in, which I was able to dodge by showing my media credential. But at the very least, Chad did have to walk across the lot, wearing his full uniform, on his way in.

Dirt Dogs · Post by **Dirt Dogs** » Mon Mar 23, 2009 11:39 am

maybe getting changed in his car is what caused the groin strain. I can imagine it's not easy to get tight baseball pants on in a car.

Funny story for a CY candidate

Sir Larry Wildman · Post by **Sir Larry Wildman** » Mon Mar 23, 2009 11:44 am

Originally posted by Gordon Gekko II:

Today's game between the Dodgers and Angels is sold out, and most of us who were coming to Tempe from Glendale got here well after 11 a.m., by which time most of the good parking spaces were long gone. As my daughter and I were walking across a distant lot on our way into the stadium, I made eye contract with a lot attendant, who was chuckling about something. He points to a very expensive sports car parked nearby and says, ``That guy's putting his uniform on in the car.'' I looked, and it was ... Chad Billingsley , today's starting pitcher for the Dodgers, who had to park his car in a public lot. I'm hoping he didn't have to pay the $5 fee that was displayed on the board as we drove in, which I was able to dodge by showing my media credential. But at the very least, Chad did have to walk across the lot, wearing his full uniform, on his way in. Is your real name Tony Jackson?

http://www.insidesocal.com/dodgers/2009 ... -spri.html

Da bears · Post by **Da bears** » Mon Mar 23, 2009 12:10 pm

Originally posted by Gordon Gekko II:

quote:Originally posted by Crazy Like a Fox:

quote:Originally posted by Gordon Gekko II:

quote:Originally posted by bigdaddyk:

Hey Mark nice to finally meet you in person at the draft.The one thing i've learned with these drafts is that after pick 25 you can throw out ADP rankings in the trash.You have to reach for your "key" guys early.I too am weak on the back end of my pitching staff so i guess you and i will be bidding for the same type of free agents.Just make sure you come strong with those bids or else go home with nothing.LOL. it was a blast to meet you as well. this weekend was really a bachelor party type weekend. from meeting new people, to drafting good teams to partying with tom, mike, ryan, billy, glenn, and diesel. it was perhaps the best weekend i ever had at an nfbc/nffc event. it was CLASSIC!

now back to business, when you say "I too am weak on the back end of my pitching staff"...i hope you didn't get the wrong idea, i am not weak there. that will be a strength that pushes me to the top. u gotta trust the guys you draft or why draft them at all. [/QUOTE]I'm curious what kind of projections you come up for Joe Blanton, Jordan Zimmerman, Sean Marshall?

I know you can find pitching on the waiver wire but do you really trust these guys?

You know I really lika Micah. [/QUOTE]here's what i know...

blanton - moved from al to nl. k's should go up. pitches for a good team. this year's saunders?

zimmerman - i have a man crush on young talented pitchers. zman is not too young to have success. he started throwing his slider more recently with great results! his minor league #'s don't do him justice (wasn't throwing the slider as much). i found that out when researching him.

marshall - big k guy with injury riddled harden and burnout candidate zambrano in front of him. if he gets the innings, could be H-U-G-E [/QUOTE]I agree 100% with you Mark on Marshall. I got him in my auction league, but failed to jump on him early enough in the main and super draft leagues.

By the way very solid team as always Mark.

[ March 23, 2009, 06:11 PM: Message edited by: Da bears ]

Gordon Gekko II · Post by **Gordon Gekko II** » Mon Mar 23, 2009 12:19 pm

thanks matt.

wow, on the injury front...

FORT MYERS, Fla. -- Twins outfielder Carlos Gomez has a sore back and isn't expected to play again until Friday, manager Ron Gardenhire said after Monday's 8-7 win over the Orioles.

two crushing blows for the gekko squad and we are only two days removed from the draft. injuries do suck the fun out of this!

DiamondKing · Post by **DiamondKing** » Mon Mar 23, 2009 12:35 pm

Originally posted by Gordon Gekko II:

quote:Originally posted by Crazy Like a Fox:

quote:Originally posted by Gordon Gekko II:

quote:Originally posted by bigdaddyk:

Hey Mark nice to finally meet you in person at the draft.The one thing i've learned with these drafts is that after pick 25 you can throw out ADP rankings in the trash.You have to reach for your "key" guys early.I too am weak on the back end of my pitching staff so i guess you and i will be bidding for the same type of free agents.Just make sure you come strong with those bids or else go home with nothing.LOL. it was a blast to meet you as well. this weekend was really a bachelor party type weekend. from meeting new people, to drafting good teams to partying with tom, mike, ryan, billy, glenn, and diesel. it was perhaps the best weekend i ever had at an nfbc/nffc event. it was CLASSIC!

now back to business, when you say "I too am weak on the back end of my pitching staff"...i hope you didn't get the wrong idea, i am not weak there. that will be a strength that pushes me to the top. u gotta trust the guys you draft or why draft them at all. [/QUOTE]I'm curious what kind of projections you come up for Joe Blanton, Jordan Zimmerman, Sean Marshall?

I know you can find pitching on the waiver wire but do you really trust these guys?

You know I really lika Micah. [/QUOTE]here's what i know...

blanton - moved from al to nl. k's should go up. pitches for a good team. this year's saunders?

zimmerman - i have a man crush on young talented pitchers. zman is not too young to have success. he started throwing his slider more recently with great results! his minor league #'s don't do him justice (wasn't throwing the slider as much). i found that out when researching him.

marshall - big k guy with injury riddled harden and burnout candidate zambrano in front of him. if he gets the innings, could be H-U-G-E [/QUOTE]I read that Zimmerman was under orders to throw 15 -20 changeups per game in the minors last year.Saw him live this spring.Kid is good.