Fine-tuning The Friday DL Rule

Gordon Gekko II · Post by **Gordon Gekko II** » Wed Apr 22, 2009 10:01 am

Originally posted by Quack & Willy:

I'm very discouraged that someone who is so outspoken and visible on these boards would flat out lie about changing his registered name. It makes anything you say worthless. If you'd lie about something that was so obvious to everyone, why would I believe for one second that you drafted Smoltz to use this rule to your advantage?

I wouldn't......and you 100% know you're full of **** what lie did i post? please quote it.

see, i got you again! man, i love this

Chest Rockwell · Post by **Chest Rockwell** » Wed Apr 22, 2009 10:28 am

The reason why I play in the nfbc every year has changed. I have always cared less about winning money. At first I wanted competition, but it has moved in to making many good friends and developing relationships around the country. Good people here!

Lots of my friends who I know are friends with each other too- sure are not acting like it today. I understand the passion in the discussion. I do not understand the name calling or the emotions being so raw from either side.

I am the first to give someone a hard time on these boards and have crossed the line before. Count me as the last to talk to my friends the way a lot of you are talking to each other today.

I always find it interesting that a newbie usually progresses from these are typical internet discussions (IE internet tough guys) to a slow realization that there are real relationships/friendships here and tones down the rhetoric. A few veterans have forgotten that today.

Now my thoughts: I did not pull Baker because I was not comfortable personally doing it. I in no way feel like anyone who did cheated or should be called out for doing it. It was within the rules. Changing rules midstream is a very, very slippery slope and one that cannot be entered in to lightly. I will respect, abide by, and support any decision that is made.

The Franchise · Post by **The Franchise** » Wed Apr 22, 2009 10:35 am

Originally posted by Gordon Gekko II:

quote:Originally posted by Greg Ambrosius:

quote:Originally posted by KJ Duke:

Greg, do you really think its a good idea to change a rule that has been in place for the last two years ... 3 weeks AFTER the season has started?

Those who don't like it call it a loophole, but in reality it is what it is and has been for two years, a strategic tool. I most certainly do and we're working on it right now. It will be implemented this week whether I have to do it by hand or automatically. Case closed. [/QUOTE]sorry i'm late to this thread. i take some time off the boards and then i see a rule is being changed. :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

LET ME BE CLEAR - THERE IS NO WAY THIS SHOULD BE ALLOWED TO HAPPEN. NONE AT ALL. I DRAFTED JOHN SMOLTZ ON DRAFT DAY KNOWING THE RULES THAT HAVE BEEN IN PLACE FOR YEARS (AND ON DRAFT DAY). I COULD START HIM ON MONDAY AND THEN REMOVE HIM BY FRIDAY. THIS IS PART OF THE REASON I DRAFTED SMOTLZ IN SO MANY LEAGUES.

Allowing a rule change NOW after draft day is over and 3 weeks into the season is 100% BS. I woulda never placed such a high value on smoltz if i knew 3 weeks into the season, the rules regaring DL players were going to be changed.

100% BS and I urge Greg to not move forward with this until 2010. You are 100% punshing teams that drafted DL pitchers. TO DO SO, WOULD THREATHEN THE INTEGRITY OF MY DRAFT (AND OTHERS) USING THE RULES THAT WERE IN PLACE ON DRAFT DAY.

BAD, BAD ROAD TO GO DOWN. [/QUOTE]You guys are nuts? I am a die hard Patriots fan and until this day, I still believe the Pats didn't cheat. They simply manipulated and found loopholes around the rule/s in place.

But, once the NFL was made aware of this "rule massaging", they stepped in and put the hammer down. Belichick explained what he was doing and his understanding of the rule. Right? Then he moved on..........

Well, same thing here. The difference is some are actually making it well known what their intentions were and are actually vocally upset about this? :rolleyes: lol I for one applaud those who were using this loophole to their advantage, but to continue on with how this is unfair is just crazy?

Maybe Greg should strip you of your 1st rd pick next year?

DOUGHBOYS · Post by **DOUGHBOYS** » Thu Apr 23, 2009 4:53 am

I'd be willing to bet that Readers Digest would be able to condense this thread to half a page.

sportsbettingman · Post by **sportsbettingman** » Thu Apr 23, 2009 5:39 am

I'll bet this will bring you right back to your High School days, eh DOUGH!

Ahhh, the memories of good old High School for DOUGHBOYS! Musta been grand!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NqtuO9cM ... annel_page

King of Queens · Post by **King of Queens** » Thu Apr 23, 2009 6:04 am

Originally posted by DOUGHBOYS:

I'd be willing to bet that Readers Digest would be able to condense this thread to half a page.

Let me give it a shot:

IOLA, WI -- Greg Ambrosius, founder of the National Fantasy Baseball Championship, announced on April 21st that the under-appreciated and often-mocked Friday DL Rule needed some "fine-tuning." At some point over the previous few days, it had come to Mr. Ambrosius's attention that several owners were adulterating the Friday DL Rule in ways that were not in line with the rule's original intention. Among these transgressions were (i) the Colorado Loophole, (ii) the Baker/Scherzer Loophole, and (iii) the Smoltz Loophole. Mr. Ambrosius attempted to close off all potential loopholes effective immediately, which was three weeks into the 2009 season. This resulted in several owners -- most vocally among them Mssrs. Duke and Gekko II -- adamantly protesting the termination of these loopholes. Phrases such as "BS" and "refund" were used, and Mr. Ambrosius got upset with what he felt were personal attacks. After a 75 minute session of basketball therapy, Mr. Ambrosius returned to the boards and announced that the Baker/Scherzer Loophole would be closed off through an intensive manual investigation conducted each week of all 160 NFBC leagues (this task was assigned to Mr. Kessenich). The other two Loopholes, as well as others that smarter-than-Greg owners know about but aren't revealing, would be allowed to continue through the 2009 season. In the off-season, there will be a complete review of the Friday-DL rule, and tighter controls for the 2010 season have been promised.

[ April 23, 2009, 12:06 PM: Message edited by: King of Queens ]

DOUGHBOYS · Post by **DOUGHBOYS** » Thu Apr 23, 2009 6:05 am

Loved it, Lance.

The highlight for me is Mickey's uncomfortable body language and his not being afraid to talk about himself.

And not once did he thank God for his athletic ability, which has become so common now that it just has to be in the MLB brainwashing leaflet passed out to players before the sason.

Good stuff

DOUGHBOYS · Post by **DOUGHBOYS** » Thu Apr 23, 2009 6:10 am

Originally posted by King of Queens:

quote:Originally posted by DOUGHBOYS:

I'd be willing to bet that Readers Digest would be able to condense this thread to half a page.

Let me give it a shot:

IOLA, WI -- Greg Ambrosius, founder of the National Fantasy Baseball Championship, announced on April 21st that the under-appreciated and often-mocked Friday DL Rule needed some "fine-tuning." At some point over the previous few days, it had come to Mr. Ambrosius's attention that several owners were adulterating the Friday DL Rule in ways that were not in line with the rule's original intention. Among these transgressions were (i) the Colorado Loophole, (ii) the Baker/Scherzer Loophole, and (iii) the Smoltz Loophole. Mr. Ambrosius attempted to close off all potential loopholes effective immediately, which was three weeks into the 2009 season. This resulted in several owners -- most vocally among them Mssrs. Duke and Gekko II -- adamantly protesting the termination of these loopholes. Phrases such as "BS" and "refund" were used, and Mr. Ambrosius got upset with what he felt were personal attacks. After a 75 minute session of basketball therapy, Mr. Ambrosius returned to the boards and announced that the Baker/Scherzer Loophole would be closed off through an intensive manual investigation conducted each week of all 160 NFBC leagues (this task was assigned to Mr. Kessenich). The other two Loopholes, as well as others that smarter-than-Greg owners know about but aren't revealing, would be allowed to continue through the 2009 season. In the off-season, there will be a complete review of the Friday-DL rule, and tighter controls for the 2010 season have been promised. [/QUOTE]Perfect!

Any time a thread goes more than 10 pages, I'll wait for your concise synopsis. Saves time.

JohnZ · Post by **JohnZ** » Thu Apr 23, 2009 6:51 am

Originally posted by DOUGHBOYS:

Any time a thread goes more than 10 pages, I'll wait for your concise synopsis. Saves time. I see humanitarian awards in your future if you could do the same for any Crane threads, .

[ April 23, 2009, 12:53 PM: Message edited by: JohnZ ]

DOUGHBOYS · Post by **DOUGHBOYS** » Thu Apr 23, 2009 7:18 am

I thought about KJ, GEKKO, and Greg last night.

The arguments in the thread could have been transferred to an MLB bulletin board somewhere. KJ and Mark would be arguing on why MLB did not finish the first game of the doubleheader between the Twins and Red Sox. Their arguments would be that every game should be finished if possible. That teams in the A.L. East and Central were screwed because neither team had to extend their arms in the bullpen, but above all, its in the rules.

Representing baseball, Greg would argue that it was in the best interest of fans, players, and both teams not to wait and finish two innings of a 10-1 game.

[ April 23, 2009, 01:19 PM: Message edited by: DOUGHBOYS ]

Crazy Like a Fox · Post by **Crazy Like a Fox** » Thu Apr 23, 2009 3:59 pm

Originally posted by King of Queens:

quote:Originally posted by DOUGHBOYS:

I'd be willing to bet that Readers Digest would be able to condense this thread to half a page.

Let me give it a shot:

IOLA, WI -- Greg Ambrosius, founder of the National Fantasy Baseball Championship, announced on April 21st that the under-appreciated and often-mocked Friday DL Rule needed some "fine-tuning." At some point over the previous few days, it had come to Mr. Ambrosius's attention that several owners were adulterating the Friday DL Rule in ways that were not in line with the rule's original intention. Among these transgressions were (i) the Colorado Loophole, (ii) the Baker/Scherzer Loophole, and (iii) the Smoltz Loophole. Mr. Ambrosius attempted to close off all potential loopholes effective immediately, which was three weeks into the 2009 season. This resulted in several owners -- most vocally among them Mssrs. Duke and Gekko II -- adamantly protesting the termination of these loopholes. Phrases such as "BS" and "refund" were used, and Mr. Ambrosius got upset with what he felt were personal attacks. After a 75 minute session of basketball therapy, Mr. Ambrosius returned to the boards and announced that the Baker/Scherzer Loophole would be closed off through an intensive manual investigation conducted each week of all 160 NFBC leagues (this task was assigned to Mr. Kessenich). The other two Loopholes, as well as others that smarter-than-Greg owners know about but aren't revealing, would be allowed to continue through the 2009 season. In the off-season, there will be a complete review of the Friday-DL rule, and tighter controls for the 2010 season have been promised. [/QUOTE]Incredible job Kings.