STATs AND MDC

[Dub]

Originally posted by eddiejag:

NO he isnt going to win,wait a minute he's won a main and a ultimate.It wasnt just the scroll it was a bunch of little things he had promblems with.Still he was so pissed off he just quit in the 26th round.All auto picks and 500 hundred down the drain.Dont worry he wont donate again. I rather know how to operate a sroll bar then ever win an Ultimate or MAIN



Although both would be best

[sportsbettingman]

Originally posted by Dub:

How's that, if he was already rostered? Santana was not rostered our second time through- the draft was rolled back, remember.



How could ANYONE pick Santana if he was rostered? see above



How can you "complain in the chat box" if you are not able to log in? He complained during the second round when he says he was able to get back on.



I may not see the whole story here. How do you know he was not on autodraft? Autodraft picks in 10 seconds- the full 1:30 was taken and you could see that he was still logged on.



Santana was ranked very high by default. Which pick was he? Walla picked 1-6 and then 2-7 - he took him 1st and then 2nd (after the roll back)



How many picks are you complaining took place before the rollback? I am not complaining- I picked 5th and the roll back did not affect me. I am just reporting the facts.



Good for MDC to roll it back.- It was the only solution because Walla would have dropped out and we would have had to re-schedule and find a 12th. It would have been a bigger disaster.



Online drafts are tricky. -PALEEEEZE WOW...either I'm having a disconnect, or you are???



If Walla Walla was (auto)given Johan Santana the first go through. You could not say who would have targeted Santana the first time through, because nobody could have drafted him that time through...thus Walla Walla gained ZERO knowledge. It's like saying Walla Walla drafted Josh Hamilton at #6...and knew he could get him in the 2nd round because nobody in that first run through drafted Josh Hamilton??? (of course not...how could they?)



Being that you said it did not get all the way back to him before the rollback, there was even less knowledge gained (say...someone drafted Lincecum in that spot before his 2nd pick).



Nobody in any main draft this year (that I know of) took Santana in the first 6 overall picks...so autopick, or picking from the top of his queue sounds more reasonable than he did it to scheme/gain knowledge. (Many people put many players in their queue for future rounds...doesn't mean they are in order)



As far as the second time through (after rollback)...there was ZERO gaurantee Santana would slip back to him, as everyone had a fresh shot at him. The odds were good, based on the main event...and even greater based on a 12 team draft.



I don't see the big problem, unless (aside from Cabrera's original owner, and the owner of the player the Cabrera owner selected instead who had to shift gears after exposing their hands) everyone else altered their first and 2nd round picks...which I'd guess was minimal changes.



MUCH WORSE to have a computer error SCREW you out of your FIRST PICK!



This happened in my home league (and the first year of a keeper league to boot).



It happened to also be Johan Santana that was the auto pick for the guy picking around 10th who got auto-picked due to not being able to connect. He wanted Evan Longoria...but by the time he got logged in and complained in the chat room...the commish ruled to keep going.



The commish feels like s.hit even today...4 of the 12 teams think he's a weasel for making that judgement call and lost a lot of respect for how he handled it. There are ill feelings in this league to the point it may not go on after this season (after 15 years)...and the guy who got screwed is no longer friendly with the commish...after knowing each other for 25 years. All because of no rollback.



Fair is fair. Get the picks right. Computers are not above human errors.



As a commish myself...getting it right is the #1 priority.



~Lance



[ April 30, 2009, 10:21 PM: Message edited by: sportsbettingman ]

[CC's Desperados]

Originally posted by eddiejag:

I think MDC could do a much better job with the players listed.I dont undrstand why they have retired players or triple a players in front of good players.Choo was not high on the list and i missed him.Carmona was at the bottom of the list.

IF your a little slow with the computer you can have promblems finding your players.David Deterra had a hell of a time in the 500 dollar draft champions and had to stop the draft 4 times and finally just gave up after 26 rounds.I actually felt bad for him ,he didnt know how to use the scroll down feature and that was what killed him.Say looking for Sabbathia it would take him 50 seconds just to get to the S's.Ive had promblems but after doing so many you learn.But like i said thay could do a much better job listing the top players especially for new players or guys who arent computer savy like myself. This is a perfect example of mock draft being a caddy. You need to see Choo's name to draft him. If he was on your radar, you would have found him. You are depending on their list to help you.



It's the same when you use a fantasy magazine to draft a live event. If a players is left off the list or the list hasn't been updated, who's fault is it? The player needing to see the name on the list.

[SluggoJD]

Originally posted by CC's Desperados:

quote:Originally posted by eddiejag:

I think MDC could do a much better job with the players listed.I dont undrstand why they have retired players or triple a players in front of good players.Choo was not high on the list and i missed him.Carmona was at the bottom of the list.

IF your a little slow with the computer you can have promblems finding your players.David Deterra had a hell of a time in the 500 dollar draft champions and had to stop the draft 4 times and finally just gave up after 26 rounds.I actually felt bad for him ,he didnt know how to use the scroll down feature and that was what killed him.Say looking for Sabbathia it would take him 50 seconds just to get to the S's.Ive had promblems but after doing so many you learn.But like i said thay could do a much better job listing the top players especially for new players or guys who arent computer savy like myself. This is a perfect example of mock draft being a caddy. You need to see Choo's name to draft him. If he was on your radar, you would have found him. You are depending on their list to help you.



It's the same when you use a fantasy magazine to draft a live event. If a players is left off the list or the list hasn't been updated, who's fault is it? The player needing to see the name on the list. [/QUOTE]I'm not religious - but AMEN.



John

[sportsbettingman]

Just imagine how good Eddie would be if he brought a cheatsheet to the draft!!!

[Dub]

Originally posted by sportsbettingman:

quote:Originally posted by Dub:

How's that, if he was already rostered? Santana was not rostered our second time through- the draft was rolled back, remember.



How could ANYONE pick Santana if he was rostered? see above



How can you "complain in the chat box" if you are not able to log in? He complained during the second round when he says he was able to get back on.



I may not see the whole story here. How do you know he was not on autodraft? Autodraft picks in 10 seconds- the full 1:30 was taken and you could see that he was still logged on.



Santana was ranked very high by default. Which pick was he? Walla picked 1-6 and then 2-7 - he took him 1st and then 2nd (after the roll back)



How many picks are you complaining took place before the rollback? I am not complaining- I picked 5th and the roll back did not affect me. I am just reporting the facts.



Good for MDC to roll it back.- It was the only solution because Walla would have dropped out and we would have had to re-schedule and find a 12th. It would have been a bigger disaster.



Online drafts are tricky. -PALEEEEZE WOW...either I'm having a disconnect, or you are???



If Walla Walla was (auto)given Johan Santana the first go through. You could not say who would have targeted Santana the first time through, because nobody could have drafted him that time through...thus Walla Walla gained ZERO knowledge. It's like saying Walla Walla drafted Josh Hamilton at #6...and knew he could get him in the 2nd round because nobody in that first run through drafted Josh Hamilton??? (of course not...how could they?)



Being that you said it did not get all the way back to him before the rollback, there was even less knowledge gained (say...someone drafted Lincecum in that spot before his 2nd pick).



Nobody in any main draft this year (that I know of) took Santana in the first 6 overall picks...so autopick, or picking from the top of his queue sounds more reasonable than he did it to scheme/gain knowledge. (Many people put many players in their queue for future rounds...doesn't mean they are in order)



As far as the second time through (after rollback)...there was ZERO gaurantee Santana would slip back to him, as everyone had a fresh shot at him. The odds were good, based on the main event...and even greater based on a 12 team draft.



I don't see the big problem, unless (aside from Cabrera's original owner, and the owner of the player the Cabrera owner selected instead who had to shift gears after exposing their hands) everyone else altered their first and 2nd round picks...which I'd guess was minimal changes.



MUCH WORSE to have a computer error SCREW you out of your FIRST PICK!



This happened in my home league (and the first year of a keeper league to boot).



It happened to also be Johan Santana that was the auto pick for the guy picking around 10th who got auto-picked due to not being able to connect. He wanted Evan Longoria...but by the time he got logged in and complained in the chat room...the commish ruled to keep going.



The commish feels like s.hit even today...4 of the 12 teams think he's a weasel for making that judgement call and lost a lot of respect for how he handled it. There are ill feelings in this league to the point it may not go on after this season (after 15 years)...and the guy who got screwed is no longer friendly with the commish...after knowing each other for 25 years. All because of no rollback.



Fair is fair. Get the picks right. Computers are not above human errors.



As a commish myself...getting it right is the #1 priority.



~Lance [/QUOTE]The disconnect was mine!



I voiced to roll back at the time, but after he took Johan in the 2nd and so many pitchers in his first 10- it felt wrong. You know how sometimes you smell a rat?



Maybe I am just bitter because I ended up with Beckett and Liriano -two pitcher I did not target or want going into the draft, but I had to take them because Walla's strategy forced everyone's hand and front line pitching became scarce quickly.



Thanks for setting my mind free on the prior knowledge argument. My apologies to Walla for jumping to conclusions.

[CC's Desperados]

Originally posted by sportsbettingman:

Just imagine how good Eddie would be if he brought a cheatsheet to the draft!!! Lance, you could be on the payroll if you can do a spread sheet for him!



He writes out the players names by hand!

[eddiejag]

Originally posted by CC's Desperados:

quote:Originally posted by eddiejag:

I think MDC could do a much better job with the players listed.I dont undrstand why they have retired players or triple a players in front of good players.Choo was not high on the list and i missed him.Carmona was at the bottom of the list.

IF your a little slow with the computer you can have promblems finding your players.David Deterra had a hell of a time in the 500 dollar draft champions and had to stop the draft 4 times and finally just gave up after 26 rounds.I actually felt bad for him ,he didnt know how to use the scroll down feature and that was what killed him.Say looking for Sabbathia it would take him 50 seconds just to get to the S's.Ive had promblems but after doing so many you learn.But like i said thay could do a much better job listing the top players especially for new players or guys who arent computer savy like myself. This is a perfect example of mock draft being a caddy. You need to see Choo's name to draft him. If he was on your radar, you would have found him. You are depending on their list to help you.



It's the same when you use a fantasy magazine to draft a live event. If a players is left off the list or the list hasn't been updated, who's fault is it? The player needing to see the name on the list. [/QUOTE]Sorry Shawn but im not rain man.Of course im using MCD list to alert myself when players are aviable.Im trusting MDC to have the players in the right spots .It's not a main event draft or a ultimate so i do need this list to be usable.That's the promblem they have about 25 players that are at the bottom or near the bottom.Choo shouldnt be the 215th outfielder you could miss him and yes i did rain man.I also couldnt find Jordan Zimmerman and almost gave up on him till i decided to check relief pitchers and there he is a starting pitcher in the wrong place.Im just saying how hard would it be to put the best players where they should be.Deterra had major promblems and will not do a mdc draft ever again.He couldnt find certain players that he wanted.Carmona was another guy he couldnt find.

So he doesnt get him and has to make another pick or stop the draft which he did 4 times.FIX THE LIST.

[anpyanks]

am i missing something here or am i the only one that realizes there is a feature at mdc that u can type in the players last name and get him in a matter of seconds... thats what me and my partner do all the time... we never look at their lists... we have our own list and when it gets late or we have a question if someone is available we just type in the players name and in two seconds its there... use the queue feature and u can put as many people on the right hand side box as u wish... in my opinion if everyone does their work and has their lists then there should be no problem... sounds like some people are relying on mdc lists and that to me is absurd...

[Greg Ambrosius]

Originally posted by Chico Lind's Hermanos:

am i missing something here or am i the only one that realizes there is a feature at mdc that u can type in the players last name and get him in a matter of seconds... thats what me and my partner do all the time... we never look at their lists... we have our own list and when it gets late or we have a question if someone is available we just type in the players name and in two seconds its there... use the queue feature and u can put as many people on the right hand side box as u wish... in my opinion if everyone does their work and has their lists then there should be no problem... sounds like some people are relying on mdc lists and that to me is absurd... Correct. You can search a player's name and you can also list by name. You do not have to keep the list on MDC's default list. Eddie, we had three guys talking with David during that Draft Champions League draft and each time we told him to que to names alphabetically so that if he knew who he was looking for he could find them alphabetically. And we told him to search. We stopped the draft at least four times in a 45-ROUND draft and he still was so mad at the site that he left.



If lists are alphabetical and you know who you want and you have 90 seconds to pick, I'm not sure it's the site's fault. But we'll lay on the knife on this one if it helps, but bottom line is that you can search or list alphabetically and find whomever you want on MDC.com real quickly.



Again, next year maybe we'll ask them to default to our NFBC rankings and then we won't lose someone like Choo in the late rounds.

[CC's Desperados]

Originally posted by eddiejag:

quote:Originally posted by CC's Desperados:

quote:Originally posted by eddiejag:

I think MDC could do a much better job with the players listed.I dont undrstand why they have retired players or triple a players in front of good players.Choo was not high on the list and i missed him.Carmona was at the bottom of the list.

IF your a little slow with the computer you can have promblems finding your players.David Deterra had a hell of a time in the 500 dollar draft champions and had to stop the draft 4 times and finally just gave up after 26 rounds.I actually felt bad for him ,he didnt know how to use the scroll down feature and that was what killed him.Say looking for Sabbathia it would take him 50 seconds just to get to the S's.Ive had promblems but after doing so many you learn.But like i said thay could do a much better job listing the top players especially for new players or guys who arent computer savy like myself. This is a perfect example of mock draft being a caddy. You need to see Choo's name to draft him. If he was on your radar, you would have found him. You are depending on their list to help you.



It's the same when you use a fantasy magazine to draft a live event. If a players is left off the list or the list hasn't been updated, who's fault is it? The player needing to see the name on the list. [/QUOTE]Sorry Shawn but im not rain man.Of course im using MCD list to alert myself when players are aviable.Im trusting MDC to have the players in the right spots .It's not a main event draft or a ultimate so i do need this list to be usable.That's the promblem they have about 25 players that are at the bottom or near the bottom.Choo shouldnt be the 215th outfielder you could miss him and yes i did rain man.I also couldnt find Jordan Zimmerman and almost gave up on him till i decided to check relief pitchers and there he is a starting pitcher in the wrong place.Im just saying how hard would it be to put the best players where they should be.Deterra had major promblems and will not do a mdc draft ever again.He couldnt find certain players that he wanted.Carmona was another guy he couldnt find.

So he doesnt get him and has to make another pick or stop the draft which he did 4 times.FIX THE LIST. [/QUOTE]Don't blame MDC for David Deterra's problems. He didn't know how to the use the site properly. For the amount of money spent on a league, you would think he would know how to use the site. This isn't the first year he's used MDC. If he decide not to play in another online league, he should look in the mirror because he is the reason for the problem not MDC.



Where do you want Carmona ranked? He had 58 K's in 120 innings and 5.62 era and 1.62 whip. MDC was doing you a favored putting him where he belongs. He was a bum last year and he was ranked with the bums.



It's funny how you remember Zimmerman, but Choo was no where in your memory.



I'm not Rainman. I'm just prepared for the events. You expect someone else to do have all your ducks in a row. If they aren't, you would rather blame them than yourself.



Man up and take responsibly for not being prepared. Know the site and know the player pool...if you don't, you know your competition will. For the money being spent that could be the difference in winning and losing.

[Dub]

Originally posted by CC's Desperados:

quote:Originally posted by eddiejag:

quote:Originally posted by CC's Desperados:

quote:Originally posted by eddiejag:

I think MDC could do a much better job with the players listed.I dont understand why they have retired players or triple a players in front of good players.Choo was not high on the list and i missed him.Carmona was at the bottom of the list.

IF your a little slow with the computer you can have problems finding your players.David Deterra had a hell of a time in the 500 dollar draft champions and had to stop the draft 4 times and finally just gave up after 26 rounds.I actually felt bad for him ,he didn't know how to use the scroll down feature and that was what killed him.Say looking for Sabbathia it would take him 50 seconds just to get to the S's.Ive had promblems but after doing so many you learn.But like i said thay could do a much better job listing the top players especially for new players or guys who arent computer savy like myself. This is a perfect example of mock draft being a caddy. You need to see Choo's name to draft him. If he was on your radar, you would have found him. You are depending on their list to help you.



It's the same when you use a fantasy magazine to draft a live event. If a players is left off the list or the list hasn't been updated, who's fault is it? The player needing to see the name on the list. [/QUOTE]Sorry Shawn but im not rain man.Of course im using MCD list to alert myself when players are aviable.Im trusting MDC to have the players in the right spots .It's not a main event draft or a ultimate so i do need this list to be usable.That's the promblem they have about 25 players that are at the bottom or near the bottom.Choo shouldnt be the 215th outfielder you could miss him and yes i did rain man.I also couldnt find Jordan Zimmerman and almost gave up on him till i decided to check relief pitchers and there he is a starting pitcher in the wrong place.Im just saying how hard would it be to put the best players where they should be.Deterra had major promblems and will not do a mdc draft ever again.He couldnt find certain players that he wanted.Carmona was another guy he couldnt find.

So he doesnt get him and has to make another pick or stop the draft which he did 4 times.FIX THE LIST. [/QUOTE]Don't blame MDC for David Deterra's problems. He didn't know how to the use the site properly. For the amount of money spent on a league, you would think he would know how to use the site. This isn't the first year he's used MDC. If he decide not to play in another online league, he should look in the mirror because he is the reason for the problem not MDC.



Where do you want Carmona ranked? He had 58 K's in 120 innings and 5.62 era and 1.62 whip. MDC was doing you a favored putting him where he belongs. He was a bum last year and he was ranked with the bums.



It's funny how you remember Zimmerman, but Choo was no where in your memory.



I'm not Rainman. I'm just prepared for the events. You expect someone else to do have all your ducks in a row. If they aren't, you would rather blame them than yourself.



Man up and take responsibly for not being prepared. Know the site and know the player pool...if you don't, you know your competition will. For the money being spent that could be the difference in winning and losing. [/QUOTE]Said much better than I said it- but that's what makes him CC Desperados





I spent a lot of man hours- aligning my custom draft list with the ADP. It was a pain in the ***, but anyone/everyone could/should do this.

[Gordon Gekko II]

Originally posted by CC's Desperados:

Don't blame MDC for David Deterra's problems. He didn't know how to the use the site properly. For the amount of money spent on a league, you would think he would know how to use the site. This isn't the first year he's used MDC. If he decide not to play in another online league, he should look in the mirror because he is the reason for the problem not MDC.



Where do you want Carmona ranked? He had 58 K's in 120 innings and 5.62 era and 1.62 whip. MDC was doing you a favored putting him where he belongs. He was a bum last year and he was ranked with the bums.



It's funny how you remember Zimmerman, but Choo was no where in your memory.



I'm not Rainman. I'm just prepared for the events. You expect someone else to do have all your ducks in a row. If they aren't, you would rather blame them than yourself.



Man up and take responsibly for not being prepared. Know the site and know the player pool...if you don't, you know your competition will. For the money being spent that could be the difference in winning and losing. Shawn Childs: A once-neutral Switzerland moving to an opinionated USA! Me likee!



As for MDC, it’s the best draft site I’ve ever used. I love their software AND their top-notch support. 10 out of 10 stars!



While I’m giving out compliments, I’ll go on record saying Greg is the best commish I’ve ever seen. 10 out of 10 stars!



STATS is a very good and user-friendly interface site. They have a couple things to improve on, but they are still a 9 out of 10 stars!

[CC's Desperados]

Originally posted by Gordon Gekko II:

quote:Originally posted by CC's Desperados:

Don't blame MDC for David Deterra's problems. He didn't know how to the use the site properly. For the amount of money spent on a league, you would think he would know how to use the site. This isn't the first year he's used MDC. If he decide not to play in another online league, he should look in the mirror because he is the reason for the problem not MDC.



Where do you want Carmona ranked? He had 58 K's in 120 innings and 5.62 era and 1.62 whip. MDC was doing you a favored putting him where he belongs. He was a bum last year and he was ranked with the bums.



It's funny how you remember Zimmerman, but Choo was no where in your memory.



I'm not Rainman. I'm just prepared for the events. You expect someone else to do have all your ducks in a row. If they aren't, you would rather blame them than yourself.



Man up and take responsibly for not being prepared. Know the site and know the player pool...if you don't, you know your competition will. For the money being spent that could be the difference in winning and losing. Shawn Childs: A once-neutral Switzerland moving to an opinionated USA! Me likee!



As for MDC, it’s the best draft site I’ve ever used. I love their software AND their top-notch support. 10 out of 10 stars!



While I’m giving out compliments, I’ll go on record saying Greg is the best commish I’ve ever seen. 10 out of 10 stars!



STATS is a very good and user-friendly interface site. They have a couple things to improve on, but they are still a 9 out of 10 stars! [/QUOTE]I'd have a comment for this post, but I'm going back to my home state.



By the way, good luck with the little one...I can't see how this is going to stop you from playing fantasy football. Don't newborns sleep for 20 hours a day for 4 months. You know what that is just enough time to squeeze a football season!



[ May 01, 2009, 09:12 AM: Message edited by: CC's Desperados ]

[Gordon Gekko II]

Originally posted by CC's Desperados:

By the way, good luck with the little one...I can't see how this is going to stop you from playing fantasy football. Don't newborns sleep for 20 hours a day for 4 months. You know what that is just enough time to squeeze a football season! thx. me need a break and hopefully be ready to roll for NFBC 2010 full force! my wife is taking off work for 6 months, so money may become very tight as well. we'll see.



football isn't even in my mind for this year. i wouldn't even play if i got free teams!! i'm out for 09, but hopefully i'm in for 10!

[Joe Sambito]

I have no real problems with stats or MDC. But Shawn made a good point that creating a list is not that user friendly. I for one create my own big board, usually about 750 players or so. Normally it is a binder of spreadsheets for the Live Drafts. I did the same I normally do. But with all the online MDC drafts, I decided to mimick my big board on MDC. It was time consuming but at the end of the day I was very happy to have done it.



Now for the complaint, (and there may have been a better way that I was not aware of, and I apologize for any ignorance). Let's say Jordan Zimmerman was ranked 589th, and I want to move him to 302nd. I typed his name in the search bar and it gets listed below and takes me to his spot. For me to get it to work, I had to move him over two columns, then hit previous 30 twice, move him over another two columns, and so on. That made it a bit arduous.



But having the ability to have your own list, playing in multiple leagues and multiple drafts, was huge. Hopefully next year moving guys around will be easier. It's easy if they are on the same page or within 90 either way, but large dramatic moves up or down were tricky. Again maybe there was a better way that I didn't realize.



[ May 01, 2009, 09:55 AM: Message edited by: Joe Sambito ]

[Dirt Dogs]

Having the ability to type in a number you would like the player ranked would be a big help. Or type in the player name in the rank number and it prefills his name so you can just type your ranks all the way from 1-600. If we could just type the player names you could have your rankings done in one hour tops!!



This click and slide method is very prehistoric and i agree should be updated.

[Walla Walla]

The facts on the 12 team online draft I did. I signed into the draft it started and the program locked up. Was it my computer or thier software I have no idea. But I put in my draft picks 2-14,1, 15. Why? Because I got burned on the corner picks in two other drafts on MDC before this draft. The problem was if you miss your first pick it auto's the next pick also. So I changed my picks for the first time ever. I've always gone 1-15. While MDC

was rolling back the draft Greg did get on the board and started slaming us for not drafting fast enough! I know Greg must of been tired.For others to say this was a way for me to get an edge is just stupid. Todd Zola had no problem with it. He's doing well in this league.

[Tom Kessenich]

One thing I'll add to what Greg said is that if you have some ideas you'd like to see MDC implement, you can always contact them directly. Geoff Stein's email address is [email protected]. Their customer service is terrific and so if you have some ideas that you think would strengthen the site I'm sure he'd be happy to hear them from you.



My personal opinion is that of all the draft sites in this industry, MDC is by far the best one I've used. It's one of the many reasons why we've worked with them over the years and why we've continued to grow and develop our partnership with them. Geoff and Jason Pliml are both class guys and have a great site and do great work.

[JohnZ]

Originally posted by Joe Sambito:

I have no real problems with stats or MDC. But Shawn made a good point that creating a list is not that user friendly. I for one create my own big board, usually about 750 players or so. Normally it is a binder of spreadsheets for the Live Drafts. I did the same I normally do. But with all the online MDC drafts, I decided to mimick my big board on MDC. It was time consuming but at the end of the day I was very happy to have done it.



Now for the complaint, (and there may have been a better way that I was not aware of, and I apologize for any ignorance). Let's say Jordan Zimmerman was ranked 589th, and I want to move him to 302nd. I typed his name in the search bar and it gets listed below and takes me to his spot. For me to get it to work, I had to move him over two columns, then hit previous 30 twice, move him over another two columns, and so on. That made it a bit arduous.



But having the ability to have your own list, playing in multiple leagues and multiple drafts, was huge. Hopefully next year moving guys around will be easier. It's easy if they are on the same page or within 90 either way, but large dramatic moves up or down were tricky. Again maybe there was a better way that I didn't realize. I love MDC... It's a great service. Jeff and Jason always respond right away



I tried once to make my own list, but it was just to time consuming as detailed above.



I've had three customers make their own lists and then say it wouldn't load when it got into the draft room. Very discouraging for them because of the time spent creating them.



I hope they can better steam line this process.



I hardly do any mocks any more because their default rankings need to be updated, especially the last month, on a daily basis IMO. It ruins the draft when an auto of T.Glaus goes rd 8 or an auto team picks 7 straight closers.



As an operator, I would LOVE to see some explanation in the draft room for draftees on HOW TO SEARCH. I've stopped many a draft also to explain the process only to have a guy just not comprehend it. And getting back to the default lists can even be harder..



Fix these items and the site goes from awesome to fantabulous!!!

[Chest Rockwell]

Originally posted by Walla Walla:

The facts on the 12 team online draft I did. I signed into the draft it started and the program locked up. Was it my computer or thier software I have no idea. But I put in my draft picks 2-14,1, 15. Why? Because I got burned on the corner picks in two other drafts on MDC before this draft. The problem was if you miss your first pick it auto's the next pick also. So I changed my picks for the first time ever. I've always gone 1-15. While MDC

was rolling back the draft Greg did get on the board and started slaming us for not drafting fast enough! I know Greg must of been tired.For others to say this was a way for me to get an edge is just stupid. Todd Zola had no problem with it. He's doing well in this league. Stop slaming people Greg.



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[Quahogs]

Originally posted by Walla Walla:

While MDC

was rolling back the draft Greg did get on the board and started slaming us for not drafting fast enough! I know Greg must of been tired.



MUUUUUUUUSH you slow drafters in Online League 27. Pick it up, MOVE MOVE hurry hurry ! Frost and I have promises to keep and miles to go before we sleep !!!

[JohnZ]

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