Thoughts ? as I now duck ![ May 04, 2009, 12:01 PM: Message edited by: Quahogs ]
KEEP DL move as is + 1 extra FRI move
KEEP DL move as is + 1 extra FRI move
Let's not take a step back. If I lose 2 players to the DL monday thru thursday(at least 1 being a pitcher) BOTH Dough's and KJ's new and improved rules hose me. Let's keep what works (removing a hurt player from your lineup whether it be a pitcher or hitter) and allow a little flexibility (to sit a non-DL non-performing player). Let's build on instead of chop down. Thoughts ? as I now duck !
[ May 04, 2009, 12:01 PM: Message edited by: Quahogs ]
Thoughts ? as I now duck ![ May 04, 2009, 12:01 PM: Message edited by: Quahogs ]
KEEP DL move as is + 1 extra FRI move
Originally posted by Quahogs:
Let's not take a step back. If I lose 2 players to the DL monday thru thursday(at least 1 being a pitcher) BOTH Dough's and KJ's new and improved rules hose me. Let's keep what works (removing a hurt player from your lineup whether it be a pitcher or hitter) and allow a little flexibility (to sit a non-DL non-performing player). Let's build on instead of chop down. Thoughts ? as I now duck ! I like this idea too.
Let's not take a step back. If I lose 2 players to the DL monday thru thursday(at least 1 being a pitcher) BOTH Dough's and KJ's new and improved rules hose me. Let's keep what works (removing a hurt player from your lineup whether it be a pitcher or hitter) and allow a little flexibility (to sit a non-DL non-performing player). Let's build on instead of chop down.
Thoughts ? as I now duck ! I like this idea too.KEEP DL move as is + 1 extra FRI move
Originally posted by Quahogs:
Let's not take a step back. If I lose 2 players to the DL monday thru thursday(at least 1 being a pitcher) BOTH Dough's and KJ's new and improved rules hose me. Let's keep what works (removing a hurt player from your lineup whether it be a pitcher or hitter) and allow a little flexibility (to sit a non-DL non-performing player). Let's build on instead of chop down. Thoughts ? as I now duck ! I'm all for some form of modification of the FRI DL rule, but against be able to sit a "non-performing player".
Let's not take a step back. If I lose 2 players to the DL monday thru thursday(at least 1 being a pitcher) BOTH Dough's and KJ's new and improved rules hose me. Let's keep what works (removing a hurt player from your lineup whether it be a pitcher or hitter) and allow a little flexibility (to sit a non-DL non-performing player). Let's build on instead of chop down.
Thoughts ? as I now duck ! I'm all for some form of modification of the FRI DL rule, but against be able to sit a "non-performing player".KEEP DL move as is + 1 extra FRI move
Originally posted by RedRyder:
quote:Originally posted by Quahogs:
Let's not take a step back. If I lose 2 players to the DL monday thru thursday(at least 1 being a pitcher) BOTH Dough's and KJ's new and improved rules hose me. Let's keep what works (removing a hurt player from your lineup whether it be a pitcher or hitter) and allow a little flexibility (to sit a non-DL non-performing player). Let's build on instead of chop down. Thoughts ? as I now duck ! I'm all for some form of modification of the FRI DL rule, but against be able to sit a "non-performing player". [/QUOTE]Jules, if you're in favor modifying the DL rule then that would include non-DL players. By non-performing I mean benched or farmed out or hurt but day to day players. To slap a label or a classification on a non-DL'd player would be awfully messy. A +1 move for any reason would be cleaner
[ May 04, 2009, 12:29 PM: Message edited by: Quahogs ]
quote:Originally posted by Quahogs:
Let's not take a step back. If I lose 2 players to the DL monday thru thursday(at least 1 being a pitcher) BOTH Dough's and KJ's new and improved rules hose me. Let's keep what works (removing a hurt player from your lineup whether it be a pitcher or hitter) and allow a little flexibility (to sit a non-DL non-performing player). Let's build on instead of chop down.
Thoughts ? as I now duck ! I'm all for some form of modification of the FRI DL rule, but against be able to sit a "non-performing player". [/QUOTE]Jules, if you're in favor modifying the DL rule then that would include non-DL players. By non-performing I mean benched or farmed out or hurt but day to day players. To slap a label or a classification on a non-DL'd player would be awfully messy. A +1 move for any reason would be cleaner[ May 04, 2009, 12:29 PM: Message edited by: Quahogs ]
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KEEP DL move as is + 1 extra FRI move
Q - if you want to allow 1 extra move, why not 2 extra moves or up to 7 extra moves?
KEEP DL move as is + 1 extra FRI move
Originally posted by Gordon Gekko II:
Q - if you want to allow 1 extra move, why not 2 extra moves or up to 7 extra moves? i agree, why not make all you want twice a week. what's the diff?
Q - if you want to allow 1 extra move, why not 2 extra moves or up to 7 extra moves? i agree, why not make all you want twice a week. what's the diff?
bill cleavenger
BIG BLUE NATION
"we don't rebuild, we reload"
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KEEP DL move as is + 1 extra FRI move
Originally posted by Gordon Gekko II:
Q - if you want to allow 1 extra move, why not 2 extra moves or up to 7 extra moves? Baby steps. We have over 1000 teams playing with the current DL rules. The rule as is must be agreeable to them. 1 additional move on friday would be helpful in the same vein and allow them to clean up the active roster a little bit. Heck they're looking anyway let them swap out that "going to miss the next series" type player. 2+ moves I believe will rattle the anti-streaming pro-havealife nest.
Q - if you want to allow 1 extra move, why not 2 extra moves or up to 7 extra moves? Baby steps. We have over 1000 teams playing with the current DL rules. The rule as is must be agreeable to them. 1 additional move on friday would be helpful in the same vein and allow them to clean up the active roster a little bit. Heck they're looking anyway let them swap out that "going to miss the next series" type player. 2+ moves I believe will rattle the anti-streaming pro-havealife nest.
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KEEP DL move as is + 1 extra FRI move
Originally posted by Quahogs:
2+ moves I believe will rattle the anti-streaming pro-havealife nest. Owners are allowed to acquire 2 start pitchers via faab EVERY Sunday. That is a viable strategy that no one has a problem with. Getting 2 starts out of ONE pitcher.
However if an owner wants to get 2 starts out of a combination of TWO different pitchers, everyone poo poos that idea?
Why the difference?
2+ moves I believe will rattle the anti-streaming pro-havealife nest. Owners are allowed to acquire 2 start pitchers via faab EVERY Sunday. That is a viable strategy that no one has a problem with. Getting 2 starts out of ONE pitcher.
However if an owner wants to get 2 starts out of a combination of TWO different pitchers, everyone poo poos that idea?
Why the difference?
KEEP DL move as is + 1 extra FRI move
Originally posted by Gordon Gekko II:
quote:Originally posted by Quahogs:
2+ moves I believe will rattle the anti-streaming pro-havealife nest. Owners are allowed to acquire 2 start pitchers via faab EVERY Sunday. That is a viable strategy that no one has a problem with. Getting 2 starts out of ONE pitcher.
However if an owner wants to get 2 starts out of a combination of TWO different pitchers, everyone poo poos that idea?
Why the difference? [/QUOTE]RISK. Teams are grabbing a 2 start pitcher off the FA list. The player sitting out there most likely has warts (a Suppan, a Karstens, a Colon etc). Could be an ugly 2 start week AND they could be dropping someone useful.
A 2 or 3 stream move on friday let's me keep the 3 closers in there while running my 7th and 8th starters in there. I don't have to sit a likeable starter for a 2 start free agent bum.
I really don't oppose more than 1 move. I just think you need to thread the needle here. Let's try to get this contest to swap out that SP or hitter that's not going to play the LAST weekend of the season that you find out about on friday morning
Right now our hands are tied and it will remain that way unless we get something out there that the masses will agree to.
quote:Originally posted by Quahogs:
2+ moves I believe will rattle the anti-streaming pro-havealife nest. Owners are allowed to acquire 2 start pitchers via faab EVERY Sunday. That is a viable strategy that no one has a problem with. Getting 2 starts out of ONE pitcher.
However if an owner wants to get 2 starts out of a combination of TWO different pitchers, everyone poo poos that idea?
Why the difference? [/QUOTE]RISK. Teams are grabbing a 2 start pitcher off the FA list. The player sitting out there most likely has warts (a Suppan, a Karstens, a Colon etc). Could be an ugly 2 start week AND they could be dropping someone useful.
A 2 or 3 stream move on friday let's me keep the 3 closers in there while running my 7th and 8th starters in there. I don't have to sit a likeable starter for a 2 start free agent bum.
I really don't oppose more than 1 move. I just think you need to thread the needle here. Let's try to get this contest to swap out that SP or hitter that's not going to play the LAST weekend of the season that you find out about on friday morning
Right now our hands are tied and it will remain that way unless we get something out there that the masses will agree to.KEEP DL move as is + 1 extra FRI move
Originally posted by Quahogs:
quote:Originally posted by RedRyder:
quote:Originally posted by Quahogs:
Let's not take a step back. If I lose 2 players to the DL monday thru thursday(at least 1 being a pitcher) BOTH Dough's and KJ's new and improved rules hose me. Let's keep what works (removing a hurt player from your lineup whether it be a pitcher or hitter) and allow a little flexibility (to sit a non-DL non-performing player). Let's build on instead of chop down. Thoughts ? as I now duck ! I'm all for some form of modification of the FRI DL rule, but against be able to sit a "non-performing player". [/QUOTE]Jules, if you're in favor modifying the DL rule then that would include non-DL players. By non-performing I mean benched or farmed out or hurt but day to day players. To slap a label or a classification on a non-DL'd player would be awfully messy. A +1 move for any reason would be cleaner [/QUOTE]Q, I may not be understanding your idea fully.
What I am most in favor of is if a player in your active line-up goes on the DL, we are able to replace that player with a bench player, regardless of the day they go on the DL.
quote:Originally posted by RedRyder:
quote:Originally posted by Quahogs:
Let's not take a step back. If I lose 2 players to the DL monday thru thursday(at least 1 being a pitcher) BOTH Dough's and KJ's new and improved rules hose me. Let's keep what works (removing a hurt player from your lineup whether it be a pitcher or hitter) and allow a little flexibility (to sit a non-DL non-performing player). Let's build on instead of chop down.
Thoughts ? as I now duck ! I'm all for some form of modification of the FRI DL rule, but against be able to sit a "non-performing player". [/QUOTE]Jules, if you're in favor modifying the DL rule then that would include non-DL players. By non-performing I mean benched or farmed out or hurt but day to day players. To slap a label or a classification on a non-DL'd player would be awfully messy. A +1 move for any reason would be cleaner [/QUOTE]Q, I may not be understanding your idea fully. What I am most in favor of is if a player in your active line-up goes on the DL, we are able to replace that player with a bench player, regardless of the day they go on the DL.
KEEP DL move as is + 1 extra FRI move
Originally posted by RedRyder:
quote:Originally posted by Quahogs:
quote:Originally posted by RedRyder:
quote:Originally posted by Quahogs:
Let's not take a step back. If I lose 2 players to the DL monday thru thursday(at least 1 being a pitcher) BOTH Dough's and KJ's new and improved rules hose me. Let's keep what works (removing a hurt player from your lineup whether it be a pitcher or hitter) and allow a little flexibility (to sit a non-DL non-performing player). Let's build on instead of chop down. Thoughts ? as I now duck ! I'm all for some form of modification of the FRI DL rule, but against be able to sit a "non-performing player". [/QUOTE]Jules, if you're in favor modifying the DL rule then that would include non-DL players. By non-performing I mean benched or farmed out or hurt but day to day players. To slap a label or a classification on a non-DL'd player would be awfully messy. A +1 move for any reason would be cleaner [/QUOTE]Q, I may not be understanding your idea fully.
What I am most in favor of is if a player in your active line-up goes on the DL, we are able to replace that player with a bench player, regardless of the day they go on the DL. [/QUOTE]Jules, most players that get hurt miss a series or two and don't get DL'd. Why shouldn't we be able to replace them?
[ May 04, 2009, 01:42 PM: Message edited by: KJ Duke ]
quote:Originally posted by Quahogs:
quote:Originally posted by RedRyder:
quote:Originally posted by Quahogs:
Let's not take a step back. If I lose 2 players to the DL monday thru thursday(at least 1 being a pitcher) BOTH Dough's and KJ's new and improved rules hose me. Let's keep what works (removing a hurt player from your lineup whether it be a pitcher or hitter) and allow a little flexibility (to sit a non-DL non-performing player). Let's build on instead of chop down.
Thoughts ? as I now duck ! I'm all for some form of modification of the FRI DL rule, but against be able to sit a "non-performing player". [/QUOTE]Jules, if you're in favor modifying the DL rule then that would include non-DL players. By non-performing I mean benched or farmed out or hurt but day to day players. To slap a label or a classification on a non-DL'd player would be awfully messy. A +1 move for any reason would be cleaner [/QUOTE]Q, I may not be understanding your idea fully. What I am most in favor of is if a player in your active line-up goes on the DL, we are able to replace that player with a bench player, regardless of the day they go on the DL. [/QUOTE]Jules, most players that get hurt miss a series or two and don't get DL'd. Why shouldn't we be able to replace them?
[ May 04, 2009, 01:42 PM: Message edited by: KJ Duke ]
KEEP DL move as is + 1 extra FRI move
Originally posted by KJ Duke:
quote:Originally posted by RedRyder:
quote:Originally posted by Quahogs:
quote:Originally posted by RedRyder:
quote:Originally posted by Quahogs:
Let's not take a step back. If I lose 2 players to the DL monday thru thursday(at least 1 being a pitcher) BOTH Dough's and KJ's new and improved rules hose me. Let's keep what works (removing a hurt player from your lineup whether it be a pitcher or hitter) and allow a little flexibility (to sit a non-DL non-performing player). Let's build on instead of chop down. Thoughts ? as I now duck ! I'm all for some form of modification of the FRI DL rule, but against be able to sit a "non-performing player". [/QUOTE]Jules, if you're in favor modifying the DL rule then that would include non-DL players. By non-performing I mean benched or farmed out or hurt but day to day players. To slap a label or a classification on a non-DL'd player would be awfully messy. A +1 move for any reason would be cleaner [/QUOTE]Q, I may not be understanding your idea fully.
What I am most in favor of is if a player in your active line-up goes on the DL, we are able to replace that player with a bench player, regardless of the day they go on the DL. [/QUOTE]Jules, most players that get hurt miss a series or two and don't get DL'd. Why shouldn't we be able to replace them? [/QUOTE]Several reasons and they are just my 2 cents, but I like the way the NFBC is set up for the most part. Not a fan of the current DL rule, mostly because I think it should be DL without a designated cut-off (ie. be able to make a DL move on Saturday).
If we start adding in a move to help the Ben Sheets type players in MLB, then that takes away from part of my draft strategy. And even if it is not a Sheets type, I think it is just part of the game.
quote:Originally posted by RedRyder:
quote:Originally posted by Quahogs:
quote:Originally posted by RedRyder:
quote:Originally posted by Quahogs:
Let's not take a step back. If I lose 2 players to the DL monday thru thursday(at least 1 being a pitcher) BOTH Dough's and KJ's new and improved rules hose me. Let's keep what works (removing a hurt player from your lineup whether it be a pitcher or hitter) and allow a little flexibility (to sit a non-DL non-performing player). Let's build on instead of chop down.
Thoughts ? as I now duck ! I'm all for some form of modification of the FRI DL rule, but against be able to sit a "non-performing player". [/QUOTE]Jules, if you're in favor modifying the DL rule then that would include non-DL players. By non-performing I mean benched or farmed out or hurt but day to day players. To slap a label or a classification on a non-DL'd player would be awfully messy. A +1 move for any reason would be cleaner [/QUOTE]Q, I may not be understanding your idea fully. What I am most in favor of is if a player in your active line-up goes on the DL, we are able to replace that player with a bench player, regardless of the day they go on the DL. [/QUOTE]Jules, most players that get hurt miss a series or two and don't get DL'd. Why shouldn't we be able to replace them? [/QUOTE]Several reasons and they are just my 2 cents, but I like the way the NFBC is set up for the most part. Not a fan of the current DL rule, mostly because I think it should be DL without a designated cut-off (ie. be able to make a DL move on Saturday).
If we start adding in a move to help the Ben Sheets type players in MLB, then that takes away from part of my draft strategy. And even if it is not a Sheets type, I think it is just part of the game.
KEEP DL move as is + 1 extra FRI move
we're all in the same boat. the only thing i would like to see is what i've been saying all along and jules said. you can move a DL'ed player when he hits the DL, regardless of what day of the week.
if modifications are made, i'm sure they will be subtle changes as to not upset the applecart and i'll be fine with that too.
i have enough respect for greg that he's not about to ruin a good thing. but i also feel he will listen to any one of the thousand ideas that are presented to him and discussed on the MB and make the right decision.
[ May 04, 2009, 02:00 PM: Message edited by: Kentucky Reign ]
if modifications are made, i'm sure they will be subtle changes as to not upset the applecart and i'll be fine with that too.
i have enough respect for greg that he's not about to ruin a good thing. but i also feel he will listen to any one of the thousand ideas that are presented to him and discussed on the MB and make the right decision.
[ May 04, 2009, 02:00 PM: Message edited by: Kentucky Reign ]
bill cleavenger
BIG BLUE NATION
"we don't rebuild, we reload"
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"we don't rebuild, we reload"
KEEP DL move as is + 1 extra FRI move
I see where you stand now Jules.
KJ just posted a good summary of the 1 move per week which I'm in favor of in ADDITION to keeping the current DL rule -
"Each week team owners have the option of replacing one player in their lineup prior to Friday's games for the Friday-Sunday scoring period. The intent of this rule is to allow owners to replace injured players, whether on the DL or not, with a productive player off their bench. However, it also may be used for any other reason, thus affording the owner some additional roster flexibility. Unused roster moves DO NOT accumulate for use in future weeks".
KJ just posted a good summary of the 1 move per week which I'm in favor of in ADDITION to keeping the current DL rule -
"Each week team owners have the option of replacing one player in their lineup prior to Friday's games for the Friday-Sunday scoring period. The intent of this rule is to allow owners to replace injured players, whether on the DL or not, with a productive player off their bench. However, it also may be used for any other reason, thus affording the owner some additional roster flexibility. Unused roster moves DO NOT accumulate for use in future weeks".