Manny

BARBERIAN · Post by **BARBERIAN** » Thu May 07, 2009 5:43 am

GREAT DAY FOR JOSE CANSECO

Greg Ambrosius · Post by **Greg Ambrosius** » Thu May 07, 2009 5:46 am

Originally posted by Kentucky Reign:

bonds, mcgwire, sosa, palmeiro, clemens, arod, manny. an amazing era for baseball.

As a pure baseball fan, this is just sick. Was Greg Maddux the only one NOT to use steroids during the '80s and '90s? Please tell me Griffey Jr. and Ripken weren't using. I'm running out of players to actually believe in.

This is bad for baseball. I feel for Dodger fans, who really got into Manny and his fun-loving playing style since he got to L.A. I feel bad for collectors who invested in his memorabilia and apparel. I feel bad for fantasy owners, who invested in his services, only to get whacked with this shocker.

Most of all, I feel bad for baseball. What shame the players and owners have brought to America's Pastime. Now it's impossible to believe any accomplishment on the diamond is legit.

Bullgod · Post by **Bullgod** » Thu May 07, 2009 5:46 am

Kids, wake up they were all (anyone with any success) pretty much on the juice. Or the clear or the cream or uppers, downers, blues, greenies.

Let me put it in a way you may understand better. If you could drink orange crush soda, yeah its bad for you (too much sugar, no nutritional value) and be better at predicting what players where going to have a good week, month or year you might do it. If at the draft 9-10 of your competitors were drinking it you'd really think about it. And after four weeks when you are in 13th place you'd order your orange soda and drink it like the rest of the league...or you'd quit the league or run out of money losing year after year. Or some younger sharper orange crush drinking MFer would take your spot cause you weren't good enough!

Once in a while a guy would come along and win their league without orange crush (see Greg Maddux) but overall you wouldn't see much of that.

They are cheaters! Don't be surprised at this!

If you think Pujols body is natural good for you.

Oh, by the way when you see Santa put in a good word for me! Tell the tooth fairy I'm sorry my boy always has Lego's on the floor and tell the Easter Bunny if he keeps leaving his droppings behind we are gonna roast him on the grill next Easter!!!

Frozen Tundra · Post by **Frozen Tundra** » Thu May 07, 2009 5:47 am

Originally posted by Less than Dave:

you think Pujols uses steroids?? I don't think he does... And glad to see Manny get suspended.. I don't have him in a single league this year and being an Indians fan, he isn't exactly at the top of my favs list... but my sincere sympathy for all Manny owners.. that's a huge blow.. at least he's an OF and not a MI/CI though.. a bit easier to replace... sorta... Why, because Pujols looks like a nice guy with great talent? Or he looks like he doesn't need any help? Well, so did Manny to all of us until today...

Liquidhippo · Post by **Liquidhippo** » Thu May 07, 2009 5:49 am

Originally posted by Dirt Dogs:

He only cares about his money and not the game! Screw him and i hope he never plays again.

Ken Griffey Jr is the best pure hitter of the 90's hands down! It's amazing how he has been forgotten but the Kid is one of the greatest hitters of all time and not once has ever been mentioned in the same sentence as steroids.

My favorite player hands down! Actually, Griffey has been mentioned in the same sentence as steroids because of Griffey's phenomenal, almost incomprehensible fragility. I'm convinced Griffey was a juicer at some point, but I have no proof and I could be wrong.

Liquidhippo · Post by **Liquidhippo** » Thu May 07, 2009 5:52 am

Originally posted by BARBERIAN:

GREAT DAY FOR JOSE CANSECO ROFL!

Return of the Aces · Post by **Return of the Aces** » Thu May 07, 2009 5:56 am

Does this warrant keeping Manny Ramirez out of the Hall of Fame? It should certainly delay his entry.

Will baseball have to build a new wing--Hall of Infamy--for the dozens of other players who fall into the PED category?

Thunder · Post by **Thunder** » Thu May 07, 2009 5:57 am

from now on, nothing and/or any name will surprise me. whether it was for a speedy rehab. or bulking up, i refuse to be surprised anymore. i EXPECT albert's name to be the next big one to fall, and i'm a huge fan.

Dirt Dogs · Post by **Dirt Dogs** » Thu May 07, 2009 5:58 am

when was manny tested? If he was using in the lsat year he an IDIOT! because thats like trying to carry a gun on a plane today.

does anyone know when he tested positive?

If i was a GM and i was gonna sign player to my team along with the standard physical i would now have the player also take a drug test just like every other regular joe that trys to get a job!!

Raskol · Post by **Raskol** » Thu May 07, 2009 5:59 am

I'm drafting Hank Aaron & Yaz next year.

My teams probably wouldn't do any worse, but they'd be clean.

The Mighty Men · Post by **The Mighty Men** » Thu May 07, 2009 6:09 am

Originally posted by Kentucky Reign:

bonds, mcgwire, sosa, palmeiro, clemens, arod, manny. an amazing era for baseball.

Those are only the ones we are aware of. You can figure there are many other big names still that we don't know of.

LONG GONE · Post by **LONG GONE** » Thu May 07, 2009 6:09 am

Don't be a dumb ass. Most to all players are on some form of strength enhancing substance. I wish everyone would understand this.

Yes it does make you better. Would it make Greg Ambrosius better, only in a father and son game. Will it make a professional better, Absolutely!

Thunder · Post by **Thunder** » Thu May 07, 2009 6:17 am

Originally posted by LONG GONE:

Don't be a dumb ass. Most to all players are on some form of strength enhancing substance. I wish everyone would understand this.

Yes it does make you better. Would it make Greg Ambrosius better, only in a father and son game. Will it make a professional better, Absolutely! i don't think any of us are dumb asses. i'd venture to say ALL professional athletes are using suplements, the real dumb asses are the players using the "ILLEGAL" substances.

BARBERIAN · Post by **BARBERIAN** » Thu May 07, 2009 6:17 am

FACT: Success on the field guarantees every comfort this world has to offer

FACT: Human beings are fundamentally flawed and weak

RESULT: Todays headlines

Edwards Kings · Post by **Edwards Kings** » Thu May 07, 2009 6:18 am

I wonder if Manny can give the name of his source to Arroyo. He certainly needs the help.

From here on out I am going to look for guys that look like Kirby Puckett or Tony Gwynn. With their body-syles, no way they juiced.

It is gotten to the point that if you saw a headline reporting "Mystar Player Suspended" and the article read he had his drivers license suspended because he was out of his mind drunk driving in a car while reading "Mien Kampf" to a male hooker, Osama Bin Laden, and Bernie Madoff, you would be relieved.

Nutty Scrats · Post by **Nutty Scrats** » Thu May 07, 2009 6:18 am

Hey! It's just Manny being Manny!

Dirt Dogs · Post by **Dirt Dogs** » Thu May 07, 2009 6:32 am

Too much money being made. I wish i juiced in high school so i could of gone to a D1 school to play ball then maybe been able to sign with a pro team.

When people are getting millions of dollars to play this sport the purity has been stripped and no one cares about the HOF and history. It's just too much money and most would do anything to achieve the worlds best job and fame and power.

sportsbettingman · Post by **sportsbettingman** » Thu May 07, 2009 6:39 am

Originally posted by BARBERIAN:

FACT: Success on the field guarantees every comfort this world has to offer

FACT: Human beings are fundamentally flawed and weak

RESULT: Todays headlines True.

For all players on the cusp of being a pro...you have the chemical edge of your choosing right there. Hmmm...take drug and make millions and set my family up for life and generations playing a game I love...or don't take drug, and go work in a factory till I'm 65, barely making ends meet, and MAYBE passing a house on to my kids when I die?

Easy call.

That then snowballs into the established pros seeing Joe Blow get better, and they need to keep up with that guy, or stay ahead of that guy.

Ugly.

[ May 07, 2009, 12:41 PM: Message edited by: sportsbettingman ]

DiamondKing · Post by **DiamondKing** » Thu May 07, 2009 6:44 am

Originally posted by Dirt Dogs:

Too much money being made. I wish i juiced in high school so i could of gone to a D1 school to play ball then maybe been able to sign with a pro team.

When people are getting millions of dollars to play this sport the purity has been stripped and no one cares about the HOF and history. It's just too much money and most would do anything to achieve the worlds best job and fame and power. Not like the good ole days.Greenies and cocaine.

bjoak · Post by **bjoak** » Thu May 07, 2009 6:45 am

Originally posted by Quack & Willy:

Can't wait to see how many leagues drop Manny It's two months. You don't cut a second rounder who is injured until the ASB.

bjoak · Post by **bjoak** » Thu May 07, 2009 6:52 am

Unfair to Pujols to drag his name into it.

I'm surprised to see Manny taking the excuse route. For it to have any credence, he'll have to provide the 'innocent' drug and documentation.

BARBERIAN · Post by **BARBERIAN** » Thu May 07, 2009 7:04 am

Oh, by the way when you see Santa put in a good word for me! Tell the tooth fairy I'm sorry my boy always has Lego's on the floor and tell the Easter Bunny if he keeps leaving his droppings behind we are gonna roast him on the grill next Easter!!!

JohnZ · Post by **JohnZ** » Thu May 07, 2009 7:24 am

Originally posted by bjoak:

Unfair to Pujols to drag his name into it.

I'm surprised to see Manny taking the excuse route. For it to have any credence, he'll have to provide the 'innocent' drug and documentation. or come out of the closet

bjoak · Post by **bjoak** » Thu May 07, 2009 7:35 am

Originally posted by BARBERIAN:

Oh, by the way when you see Santa put in a good word for me! Tell the tooth fairy I'm sorry my boy always has Lego's on the floor and tell the Easter Bunny if he keeps leaving his droppings behind we are gonna roast him on the grill next Easter!!! I hope that's not to me. I'm just saying it'll be interesting to see how he plays it going forward.

BARBERIAN · Post by **BARBERIAN** » Thu May 07, 2009 7:36 am

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