The Blanton Ripoff

Gordon Gekko II · Post by **Gordon Gekko II** » Sat May 09, 2009 11:39 am

IP 34.1

K/9 7.34

BB/9 2.62

There are only 11 pitchers in the majors that have a better K/9 AND BB/9 than Blanton. Their names...

J. Vazquez

Z. Greinke

F. Hernandez

D. Haren

E. Bedard

C. Hamels

Y. Gallardo

J. Johnson

R. Halladay

R. Nolasco

T. Lilly

The combined whip and era of the pitchers above is: 1.10 whip and 3.17 era

Blanton gets stuck with a 1.60 whip and 6.81 era.

I can only hope history proves to be a good guide...

bjoak · Post by **bjoak** » Sat May 09, 2009 11:59 am

He gave up two more homers today. Just sayin'. Compare the combined homerun rate of those guys. Going forward, I'll take him for away games and two starts where at least one is away. Never a one start week at home.

billywaz · Post by **billywaz** » Sat May 09, 2009 12:01 pm

Mark,

He throws flyballs and pitches in a sandbox. It DOESN'T MATTER what his K/9, BB/9 is when a good portion of his hits are getting clobbered (at home).

In 4 home starts...

22.1 IP

33 H

22 ER

7 HRS

Over 20% of the hits he lets up at home are HR's!!!!

DO NOT start him again when he is at home (I don't care if he gets 3 starts in a week and two are on the road!!!!)

Listen, you have given me GREAT advice for seeking out late round pitchers, but you are off on this one. You gotta factor in the ballpark for this one.

Now this week IN Washington......

[ May 09, 2009, 06:05 PM: Message edited by: billywaz ]

Gordon Gekko II · Post by **Gordon Gekko II** » Sat May 09, 2009 12:07 pm

Originally posted by bjoak:

He gave up two more homers today. Just sayin'. Compare the combined homerun rate of those guys. Going forward, I'll take him for away games and two starts where at least one is away. Never a one start week at home. ya, the wind was blowing out AGAIN in philly. it's been awfully windy this april/early may on the east coast. even vazquez gave up 2 hr's.

blanton's hr rate has always been good in oakland. i expect it to regress to the mean over the course of the year. maybe not all the way, but A LOT CLOSER THAN IT IS NOW!!!

Gordon Gekko II · Post by **Gordon Gekko II** » Sat May 09, 2009 12:12 pm

Originally posted by billywaz:

Listen, you have given me GREAT advice for seeking out late round pitchers, but you are off on this one. You gotta factor in the ballpark for this one.

hr/9 is a secondary stat bill. trust me on that one. on top of that, blanton has NEVER been a HR pitcher in the majors. NEVER. he's no more a hr pitcher than johan santana.

i'm thinking blanton is getting very unlucky. sprinkle in history and "regression to the mean" and i am hopeful blanton's surface #'s turn around

billywaz · Post by **billywaz** » Sat May 09, 2009 12:28 pm

Originally posted by Gordon Gekko II:

quote:Originally posted by billywaz:

Listen, you have given me GREAT advice for seeking out late round pitchers, but you are off on this one. You gotta factor in the ballpark for this one.

blanton has NEVER been a HR pitcher in the majors. NEVER. he's no more a hr pitcher than johan santana.

[/QUOTE]He is pitching 1/2 (or over half) of his games in Philadelphia, and it is obvious that this year he IS giving up the long ball.

All I have to say is you've been fraternizing with Crazy too much if you start him on his next home start.

Gordon Gekko II · Post by **Gordon Gekko II** » Sat May 09, 2009 12:38 pm

Originally posted by billywaz:

He is pitching 1/2 (or over half) of his games in Philadelphia, and it is obvious that this year he IS giving up the long ball.

SO FAR, SO FAR

"regression to the mean" is a phrase you'll learn to appreciate throughout your fantasy baseball career, i.e. do u think Quentin, Carlos will hit .233 this year (his current avg)? as lou would say, "patients my friend, patients"

Gordon Gekko II · Post by **Gordon Gekko II** » Sat May 09, 2009 12:40 pm

Originally posted by billywaz:

All I have to say is you've been fraternizing with Crazy too much if you start him on his next home start. i'm starting blanton every week, unless i have 9 other outstanding matchups.

billywaz · Post by **billywaz** » Sat May 09, 2009 12:49 pm

Originally posted by Gordon Gekko II:

quote:Originally posted by billywaz:

All I have to say is you've been fraternizing with Crazy too much if you start him on his next home start. i'm starting blanton every week, unless i have 9 other outstanding matchups. [/QUOTE]Enjoy your team ERA over 4.50, and team WHIP over 1.40!

Gordon Gekko II · Post by **Gordon Gekko II** » Sat May 09, 2009 3:21 pm

Originally posted by billywaz:

quote:Originally posted by Gordon Gekko II:

quote:Originally posted by billywaz:

All I have to say is you've been fraternizing with Crazy too much if you start him on his next home start. i'm starting blanton every week, unless i have 9 other outstanding matchups. [/QUOTE]Enjoy your team ERA over 4.50, and team WHIP over 1.40!

[/QUOTE]because of blanton?? u may need a reality check. seriously

Thunder · Post by **Thunder** » Sat May 09, 2009 3:40 pm

Originally posted by Gordon Gekko II:

IP 34.1

K/9 7.34

BB/9 2.62

There are only 11 pitchers in the majors that have a better K/9 AND BB/9 than Blanton. Their names...

J. Vazquez

Z. Greinke

F. Hernandez

D. Haren

E. Bedard

C. Hamels

Y. Gallardo

J. Johnson

R. Halladay

R. Nolasco

T. Lilly

The combined whip and era of the pitchers above is: 1.10 whip and 3.17 era

Blanton gets stuck with a 1.60 whip and 6.81 era.

I can only hope history proves to be a good guide...

blanton sux, everybody needs to dump him.

Gordon Gekko II · Post by **Gordon Gekko II** » Sat May 09, 2009 3:44 pm

Originally posted by Kentucky Reign:

blanton sux, everybody needs to dump him. sorry, i'm not gonna let people dump him and let others (like you) to buy low. i'll keep tooting him until his surface stats turnaround

Thunder · Post by **Thunder** » Sat May 09, 2009 3:49 pm

Originally posted by Gordon Gekko II:

quote:Originally posted by Kentucky Reign:

blanton sux, everybody needs to dump him. sorry, i'm not gonna let people dump him and let others (like you) to buy low. i'll keep tooting him until his surface stats turnaround [/QUOTE]he IS from franklin. ky.

kennyperryville for all the golf nuts.

[ May 09, 2009, 09:50 PM: Message edited by: Kentucky Reign ]

Thunder · Post by **Thunder** » Sat May 09, 2009 3:57 pm

doesn't matter GG, i've already wasted $29 for him for my online team a couple weeks ago. i just wanted a kentuckyboy on my roster.

King of Queens · Post by **King of Queens** » Sat May 09, 2009 5:16 pm

Originally posted by Gordon Gekko II:

as lou would say, "patients my friend, patients" Hindsight is 20x20

Or is that 400?

bjoak · Post by **bjoak** » Sat May 09, 2009 7:42 pm

Originally posted by Gordon Gekko II:

quote:Originally posted by billywaz:

Listen, you have given me GREAT advice for seeking out late round pitchers, but you are off on this one. You gotta factor in the ballpark for this one.

hr/9 is a secondary stat bill. trust me on that one. on top of that, blanton has NEVER been a HR pitcher in the majors. NEVER. he's no more a hr pitcher than johan santana.

i'm thinking blanton is getting very unlucky. sprinkle in history and "regression to the mean" and i am hopeful blanton's surface #'s turn around [/QUOTE]In case you guys haven't figured it out yet, Gek started doing better in this contest when Eric Milton retired.

Crazy Like a Fox · Post by **Crazy Like a Fox** » Sat May 09, 2009 8:05 pm

Originally posted by Gordon Gekko II:

IP 34.1

K/9 7.34

BB/9 2.62

There are only 11 pitchers in the majors that have a better K/9 AND BB/9 than Blanton. Their names...

J. Vazquez

Z. Greinke

F. Hernandez

D. Haren

E. Bedard

C. Hamels

Y. Gallardo

J. Johnson

R. Halladay

R. Nolasco

T. Lilly

The combined whip and era of the pitchers above is: 1.10 whip and 3.17 era

Blanton gets stuck with a 1.60 whip and 6.81 era.

I can only hope history proves to be a good guide...

I don't usually do this but I feel it extremely necessary after hearing all this banter.

The definition of whip is walks x HITS divided by innings pitched. The guys you mentioned that have better K/BB and BB/9 rations also happen to give up less than a hit per inning.

The reason why Blanton and Nolasco are struggling is their .330 and .319 BA against.

"I can only hope history is a good guide".

History tells us Blanton has a .273 BA against, is a high whip, high e.r.a. pitcher, a whopping 2/1 K/BB ratio and a weak 5.8 K/9 (history tells us not to expect his current K/9 to stick), .500 pitcher pitching in one of the best pitcher's parks in baseball. Not sure which stats you were looking at when drafting him. I can't seem to find anything.

But I'm sure you're right Gekko, he'll be MUCH better in Philly.

Gordon Gekko II · Post by **Gordon Gekko II** » Sun May 10, 2009 12:57 am

Originally posted by bjoak:

In case you guys haven't figured it out yet, Gek started doing better in this contest when Eric Milton retired. the only 2 years milton's k and bb rate looked close to blantons here were in 1999 and 2000. those years were in the american league (DH instaed of pitcher) and resulted in whips of 1.23 and 1.25 respecively. History is Blanton's friend. Next!

Gordon Gekko II · Post by **Gordon Gekko II** » Sun May 10, 2009 1:02 am

Originally posted by Crazy Like a Fox:

The definition of whip is walks x HITS divided by innings pitched. The guys you mentioned that have better K/BB and BB/9 rations also happen to give up less than a hit per inning.

The reason why Blanton and Nolasco are struggling is their .330 and .319 BA against.

History tells us Blanton has a .273 BA against, is a high whip, high e.r.a. pitcher, a whopping 2/1 K/BB ratio and a weak 5.8 K/9 (history tells us not to expect his current K/9 to stick), .500 pitcher pitching in one of the best pitcher's parks in baseball. Not sure which stats you were looking at when drafting him. I can't seem to find anything.

crazy - we've already determined you look at the wrong stats to analyze a pitcher. you don't need to keep brining yourself down man.

The Mighty Men · Post by **The Mighty Men** » Sun May 10, 2009 2:11 am

Originally posted by Gordon Gekko II:

quote:Originally posted by bjoak:

In case you guys haven't figured it out yet, Gek started doing better in this contest when Eric Milton retired. the only 2 years milton's k and bb rate looked close to blantons here were in 1999 and 2000. those years were in the american league (DH instaed of pitcher) and resulted in whips of 1.23 and 1.25 respecively. History is Blanton's friend. Next! [/QUOTE]I hope you keep playing him. I'd like to actually finish ahead of you once.

billywaz · Post by **billywaz** » Sun May 10, 2009 2:19 am

Originally posted by Crazy Like a Fox:

quote:Originally posted by Gordon Gekko II:

IP 34.1

K/9 7.34

BB/9 2.62

There are only 11 pitchers in the majors that have a better K/9 AND BB/9 than Blanton. Their names...

J. Vazquez

Z. Greinke

F. Hernandez

D. Haren

E. Bedard

C. Hamels

Y. Gallardo

J. Johnson

R. Halladay

R. Nolasco

T. Lilly

The combined whip and era of the pitchers above is: 1.10 whip and 3.17 era

Blanton gets stuck with a 1.60 whip and 6.81 era.

I can only hope history proves to be a good guide...

I don't usually do this but I feel it extremely necessary after hearing all this banter.

[/QUOTE]This had me laughing pretty hard.

Gordon Gekko II · Post by **Gordon Gekko II** » Sun May 10, 2009 2:34 am

Originally posted by The Mighty Men:

I hope you keep playing him. I'd like to actually finish ahead of you once. remember, there is a lot less luck in baseball than there is in football, but there still is some luck involved. could blanton's numbers buck what history says, sure, but i'm someone who will win (or lose) based on the numbers replicating history.

a crazy broken clock is right twice a day!

[ May 10, 2009, 08:36 AM: Message edited by: Gordon Gekko II ]

Gordon Gekko II · Post by **Gordon Gekko II** » Sun May 10, 2009 2:35 am

Originally posted by billywaz:

This had me laughing pretty hard. billy, in case u haven't noticed crazy was the NFBC poster who won the 2008 "Most likely to end up like snake" Award!

Gordon Gekko II · Post by **Gordon Gekko II** » Sun May 10, 2009 2:46 am

Originally posted by The Mighty Men:

I hope you keep playing him. I'd like to actually finish ahead of you once. if people can't beat me with my crap draft, then they might want to give up playing fantasy baseball...

2) Alexei - crap up till this point

3) mccann - basically a zero up till this point

5) beckett - crap up till this point

8) Iannetta - a couple hr's, but still crap up till this point

9) J.Lopez - crap up till this point

10) Milledge - DROPPED 5/10/09

13) C.Gomez - DROPPED 5/3/09

15) B.Lyon - DROPPED 4/12/09

16) Thome - crap up till this point

9 out of 16 picks have been virtually worthless up till this point. if you can't beat me this year, you must really suck, because i suck (so far).

DOUGHBOYS · Post by **DOUGHBOYS** » Sun May 10, 2009 3:23 am

[/qb]I don't usually do this but I feel it extremely necessary after hearing all this banter.

[/qb][/QUOTE]This had me laughing pretty hard. [/QB][/quote]

Me too