The Blanton Ripoff

Quahogs · Post by **Quahogs** » Thu May 21, 2009 6:50 am

Gekko doing the Blanton dance !

KJ Duke · Post by **KJ Duke** » Thu May 21, 2009 7:28 am

Originally posted by sportsbettingman:

That said...Blanton is looking very sharp today. Someone just got Blantoned, again.

[ May 21, 2009, 01:30 PM: Message edited by: KJ Duke ]

headhunters · Post by **headhunters** » Thu May 21, 2009 7:31 am

when 2 threads collide. phillips with 3 more rbis - making it 5 earned runs in 5 innings for blanton. phillips now has 175 rbis since eddie called him out.

bjoak · Post by **bjoak** » Thu May 21, 2009 7:36 am

Originally posted by bjoak:

Cincinnati

W. Taveras CF 0-1

A. Rosales 3B 0-1

J. Bruce RF 1-1

B. Phillips 2B 0-1

L. Nix LF 0-1

R. Hernandez 1B 0-1

R. Hanigan C 0-1

P. Janish SS 0-0

M. Owings P 0-0

When you're facing this lineup, you probably don't need to worry about those pesky longballs.

Not counting Brandon Phillips.

Head 2 Head · Post by **Head 2 Head** » Thu May 21, 2009 7:40 am

Originally posted by DOUGHBOYS:

quote:Originally posted by JohnZ:

Forecast for Thur AM game in Cincy.

[/QUOTE]5 ER in 5 IP, but pulled up 6-5 so he could still get the WIN.

Glad I benched him this week.

Gordon Gekko II · Post by **Gordon Gekko II** » Thu May 21, 2009 7:42 am

Another great peripheral start for Blanton only to be undone with some bad luck.

7.2 K/9

1.8 BB/9

Such is life.

Have a Happy Holiday everyone!

NorCalAtlFan · Post by **NorCalAtlFan** » Thu May 21, 2009 7:46 am

how is a 500 foot(slightly embellishing) 3 runs shot bad luck?

Gordon Gekko II · Post by **Gordon Gekko II** » Thu May 21, 2009 7:50 am

Originally posted by NorCalAtlFan:

how is a 500 foot(slightly embellishing) 3 runs shot bad luck? giving up 5 ER in 5 innings with the peripherals he had IS bad luck. if you don't think it is, i suggest you do some research.

bjoak · Post by **bjoak** » Thu May 21, 2009 7:59 am

Originally posted by Gordon Gekko II:

quote:Originally posted by NorCalAtlFan:

how is a 500 foot(slightly embellishing) 3 runs shot bad luck? giving up 5 ER in 5 innings with the peripherals he had IS bad luck. if you don't think it is, i suggest you do some research. [/QUOTE]Gek, 1 homerun in 5 innings is nearly 2 HR/9. The expected ERA for a pitcher with that peripheral is around 5.50. It's not 9, but it's not good.

NorCalAtlFan · Post by **NorCalAtlFan** » Thu May 21, 2009 8:02 am

Originally posted by Gordon Gekko II:

quote:Originally posted by NorCalAtlFan:

how is a 500 foot(slightly embellishing) 3 runs shot bad luck? giving up 5 ER in 5 innings with the peripherals he had IS bad luck. if you don't think it is, i suggest you do some research. [/QUOTE]lol. wow. you spin it any way you want kid. you are a funny guy, unintentially.

Quahogs · Post by **Quahogs** » Thu May 21, 2009 8:10 am

Is he giving non-Blantonians the finger ??

Gekk says JUST WIN BABY !

Dub · Post by **Dub** » Thu May 21, 2009 8:10 am

Originally posted by Gordon Gekko II:

quote:Originally posted by NorCalAtlFan:

how is a 500 foot(slightly embellishing) 3 runs shot bad luck? giving up 5 ER in 5 innings with the peripherals he had IS bad luck. if you don't think it is, i suggest you do some research. [/QUOTE]You have me convinced- Blanton is the shiznick!

The Mighty Men · Post by **The Mighty Men** » Thu May 21, 2009 8:13 am

Originally posted by Gordon Gekko II:

Another great peripheral start for Blanton only to be undone with some bad luck.

7.2 K/9

1.8 BB/9

Such is life.

Have a Happy Holiday everyone! I thought you did not daily scoreboard watch??

Gordon Gekko II · Post by **Gordon Gekko II** » Thu May 21, 2009 8:49 am

Originally posted by bjoak:

Gek, 1 homerun in 5 innings is nearly 2 HR/9. The expected ERA for a pitcher with that peripheral is around 5.50. It's not 9, but it's not good. my model say 5.00 with 1 hr.

the point is, it's not 9.

Gordon Gekko II · Post by **Gordon Gekko II** » Thu May 21, 2009 8:51 am

Originally posted by NorCalAtlFan:

lol. wow. you spin it any way you want kid. you are a funny guy, unintentially. if you did the research, you'd quickly find out you were the funny guy, unintentially!

more research ---> sound more intelligent

you go back to spinning

NorCalAtlFan · Post by **NorCalAtlFan** » Thu May 21, 2009 8:54 am

Originally posted by Gordon Gekko II:

quote:Originally posted by NorCalAtlFan:

lol. wow. you spin it any way you want kid. you are a funny guy, unintentially. if you did the research, you'd quickly find out you were the funny guy, unintentially!

more research ---> sound more intelligent

what are you, 4?

please continue the blanton spin though. you are giving quite a few of us a good chuckle. and stop stalking me

:rolleyes:

you go back to spinning

[/QUOTE]

Gordon Gekko II · Post by **Gordon Gekko II** » Thu May 21, 2009 8:54 am

Originally posted by The Mighty Men:

I thought you did not daily scoreboard watch?? what???????? i follow the games on-line and the box scores. what i don't do is look where my ranking is. it doesn't matter if you are 1st or 200th right now. ask Latham how being 1st for a month+ during the summer last year turned out. no offense to Randy as he's a great guy. just pointing out that the wheels can come off very quickly and/or the wheels can get repaired quickly as well.

Gordon Gekko II · Post by **Gordon Gekko II** » Thu May 21, 2009 8:56 am

btw, it's no suprise to me why some of you "blanton peripheral haters" haven't done well in the NFBC

GOD Loves You · Post by **GOD Loves You** » Thu May 21, 2009 8:58 am

Originally posted by Gordon Gekko II:

Another great peripheral start for Blanton only to be undone with some bad luck.

I've noticed Blanton given up a lot more HR's when I've watched him pitch, so I did a little research. Unless I'm mistaken, these stats are from when he joined the Phillies until now.

8 starts this season, 9 HR's allowed

3 in one game, 2 in another

2 games he didn't allow a HR

08 Postseason:

3 Starts, 3 HR's allowed

2 in one game

08 Regular Season:

18 starts, 12 HR's allowed

Lasting past the 6th inning:

09 season: 1 time in 8 starts

08 Postseason: 0 times in 3 starts

08 Regular Season: only 5 times in 18 starts

From looking through his game log, he looks to be nothing more than a 6 inning pitcher who gives up 3.5 earned runs a game......has 3.8 strike outs per start.....with the "bad luck" happening at least every other start.

I think Albert Einstein stated it best:

Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.

Except in this case, we can change "doing" to "seeing".

bjoak · Post by **bjoak** » Thu May 21, 2009 9:09 am

Originally posted by Gordon Gekko II:

quote:Originally posted by bjoak:

Gek, 1 homerun in 5 innings is nearly 2 HR/9. The expected ERA for a pitcher with that peripheral is around 5.50. It's not 9, but it's not good. my model say 5.00 with 1 hr.

the point is, it's not 9. [/QUOTE]That'd mean, assuming you're calculating league average ERA to be above four and average homerun rate to be around one, that each homerun in the majors is worth less than one run. Is that really what you think? Are you sure about that?

Gordon Gekko II · Post by **Gordon Gekko II** » Thu May 21, 2009 9:13 am

Originally posted by bjoak:

That'd mean, assuming you're calculating league average ERA to be above four and average homerun rate to be around one, that each homerun in the majors is worth less than one run. Is that really what you think? Are you sure about that? my application has the ACTUAL data from pitchers in the major leagues for the past 4 or 5 years. i plug in the attributes, in this case, K/9, BB/9, HR/9 ad it spits out the comparable players and averages out all the numbers.

i'm using REAL data, what are you using, made up numbers????

Gordon Gekko II · Post by **Gordon Gekko II** » Thu May 21, 2009 9:21 am

Originally posted by GOD Loves You:

I've noticed Blanton given up a lot more HR's when I've watched him pitch, so I did a little research. listen, the hrs ARE a concern for me. he's been more of a ground ball pitcher than flyball pitcher in his career. i'm hoping his hr rate goes down to closer to his career avg. what we are experiencing is some bad luck...ACCORDING TO THE NUMBERS. hopefully he's gets straightened out in that regard.

bjoak · Post by **bjoak** » Thu May 21, 2009 9:27 am

Originally posted by Gordon Gekko II:

quote:Originally posted by bjoak:

That'd mean, assuming you're calculating league average ERA to be above four and average homerun rate to be around one, that each homerun in the majors is worth less than one run. Is that really what you think? Are you sure about that? my application has the ACTUAL data from pitchers in the major leagues for the past 4 or 5 years. i plug in the attributes, in this case, K/9, BB/9, HR/9 ad it spits out the comparable players and averages out all the numbers.

i'm using REAL data, what are you using, made up numbers???? [/QUOTE]I think this is just a miscommunication. I was illustrating how 2 HR/9 affects an otherwise average pitcher. It sounds like you are putting in Country Joe's stats from today, which makes sense (at least while I don't have Euclid with me

).

Gordon Gekko II · Post by **Gordon Gekko II** » Thu May 21, 2009 9:47 am

Originally posted by bjoak:

I think this is just a miscommunication. I was illustrating how 2 HR/9 affects an otherwise average pitcher. It sounds like you are putting in Country Joe's stats from today, which makes sense (at least while I don't have Euclid with me

). no miscommunication.

you said...

"That'd mean, assuming you're calculating league average ERA to be above four and average homerun rate to be around one, that each homerun in the majors is worth less than one run. Is that really what you think? Are you sure about that?"

i told you my #'s are based on actual data. your #'s are made up.

btw, it's 1.8 HR/9, not 2.

bjoak · Post by **bjoak** » Thu May 21, 2009 9:58 am

Originally posted by Gordon Gekko II:

quote:Originally posted by bjoak:

I think this is just a miscommunication. I was illustrating how 2 HR/9 affects an otherwise average pitcher. It sounds like you are putting in Country Joe's stats from today, which makes sense (at least while I don't have Euclid with me

). no miscommunication.

you said...

"That'd mean, assuming you're calculating league average ERA to be above four and average homerun rate to be around one, that each homerun in the majors is worth less than one run. Is that really what you think? Are you sure about that?"

i told you my #'s are based on actual data. your #'s are made up.

btw, it's 1.8 HR/9, not 2.

[/QUOTE]If you're actual data suggests that league average ERA is under four or that average HR/9 is anywhere outside the realm of 1 and 1.1 or that a homerun is worth less than a run, it's wrong. Enjoy!