Determining a draft day plan.

Moneymaker · Post by **Moneymaker** » Fri Feb 04, 2005 4:51 pm

Originally posted by ToddZ:

My main event team struggled but I don't plan on letting that happen again. Todd, in any of your columns do you suggest cashing it in by June, leaving DL'd players in your active lineup?

Fat, drunk, and stupid is no way to go through life, son.

Dyv · Post by **Dyv** » Fri Feb 04, 2005 5:03 pm

I think any serious question and discussion of real strategy on this board is stupid and inappropriate.

Having said that, do whatever you want.

I'm going to draft SP for the first 5 rounds, closers for the next 4 rounds and then any stolen bases I can get at each position for the next 14 rounds. I figure if I punt the over-rated power categories I should be able to take advantage of everyone. No... really.

Dyv

bjoak · Post by **bjoak** » Fri Feb 04, 2005 5:26 pm

I'm going to draft SP for the first 5 rounds, closers for the next 4 rounds and then any stolen bases I can get at each position for the next 14 rounds. I figure if I punt the over-rated power categories I should be able to take advantage of everyone. No... really.

Believe it or not, this strategy actually works in head-to-head leagues.

Dyv · Post by **Dyv** » Fri Feb 04, 2005 7:51 pm

Originally posted by bjoak:

quote: I'm going to draft SP for the first 5 rounds, closers for the next 4 rounds and then any stolen bases I can get at each position for the next 14 rounds. I figure if I punt the over-rated power categories I should be able to take advantage of everyone. No... really.

Believe it or not, this strategy actually works in head-to-head leagues. [/QUOTE]Any strategy could work in a yahoo league... including the very famous 'draft players who have first names beginning with M' gambit.

My general experience with H2H leagues is that SP are a complete waste of time, but depending on the level of competition and the rules...

Dyv

Dyv · Post by **Dyv** » Fri Feb 04, 2005 7:54 pm

Originally posted by sandckaye:

LBG Your question was far from dumb. Anyone can augue on either side. A good example is I had the 3rd overall pk last yr in Chicago league #2 and took Pedro Martinez. I got hit hard on message board by not taking Pujols. I won the league. That is why I said in eairlier post its not the first rd pk that wins or loses.

Stan You took Pedro at #3 overall last year and still won? You're a brave man, Stan.

Dyv

bjoak · Post by **bjoak** » Fri Feb 04, 2005 9:00 pm

My general experience with H2H leagues is that SP are a complete waste of time, but depending on the level of competition and the rules...

Well, first of all, if you draft pitching in the first 5 rounds, you'll dominate those 4 stats. Even if two of your guys go down, you still have 3 #1 starters in your rotation. Then if you go for Saves and SB's (as the "isolated" stats), you can probably win 6 each week. Add into the equation that if you only count your BA for the week, pretty much anyone can win (this is totally true if you've never done it; one week you'll hit .400, the next .150 no matter who's on your team) and a slight chance at the other three cats (especially runs, a nice bonus with a quick team) and there you go. If you win six of ten a week, that's all you need.

Does this strategy work? Sure. I've done it. I've won with it. Are there better ways? Yes, I don't use it anymore. I've won without it.

But you have to see it through if you do do it. If you draft the top two pitchers in the first two rounds, it doesn't get you anywhere. All pitching is the key. You have to be committed.

Unfortunately, it only works in H2H and can't help anyone here, but I do think head 2 head is the most fun, unless, of course, you're playing for high stakes.

[ February 05, 2005, 03:05 AM: Message edited by: bjoak ]

Gordon Gekko · Post by **Gordon Gekko** » Fri Feb 04, 2005 10:23 pm

Originally posted by Elton John:

And can you feel the love tonight Originally posted by Gordon Gekko:

Determining a draft day plan? try a plan that maximizes your chances for 2nd place.

Fantasy Sheep & Experts...I am coming to take your money. baa-baa...baa-baa Originally posted by Moneymaker:

Todd, in any of your columns do you suggest cashing it in by June, leaving DL'd players in your active lineup?

Fat, drunk, and stupid is no way to go through life, son. Originally posted by Dyv:

I think any serious question and discussion of real strategy on this board is stupid and inappropriate.

Having said that, do whatever you want.

Walla Walla · Post by **Walla Walla** » Sat Feb 05, 2005 4:56 am

Geeko, Have you signed up yet for Las Vegas?

Well have you? Punk! You feel lucky?

Bobby J · Post by **Bobby J** » Sat Feb 05, 2005 4:57 am

I do not really think anyone is putting up the $1250 and then does not have a clue. I hope this is the case and they draft like it, but everyone is going to have their own strategy based on who is taken during the draft and everyone thinks that there strategy will win until the first week of the season is over and they are dead last.

Leaderboard Sports · Post by **Leaderboard Sports** » Sat Feb 05, 2005 5:38 am

Every variation of every strategy will be used multiple times. The secret to winning is simple. Every year there are middle round picks who perform like first rounders, see Adrian Beltre, Johan Santana and Ben Sheets, late round picks who perform like middle rounders, see Mark Lorretta, Jake Peavy, and Chris Carpenter, and waiver wire pickups who perform like mid rounders see Endy Chavez, Chone Figgins, and Greg Aquino. The winner will have several of these type players on his team, will have a balanced team, and will come from a league where at least some mistakes are made that he takes advantage of.

And that is the truth

LBG1973 · Post by **LBG1973** » Sat Feb 05, 2005 5:57 am

This all stems from a debate I am having with a buddy that wants to go in as my partner. He has totally different drafting strategies and I was just curious as to whether anyone that has experience and skill in this format agreed with him. As it turns out most everyone agreed with my way of thinking that your first few picks are going to be rather vanilla its the mid round guys that will make or break your season and I really believe that is the best place to find pitching.

Thanks for all the input including the negative, I actually thought the negative comments were pretty damn funny!

bjoak · Post by **bjoak** » Sat Feb 05, 2005 6:09 am

everyone is going to have their own strategy based on who is taken during the draft and everyone thinks that there strategy will win until the first week of the season is over and they are dead last. Actually, I do think my strategy will work; the only difference is I won't give up when I'm in last after the first week. I'm like Danger from Million $ Baby.

ToddZ · Post by **ToddZ** » Sat Feb 05, 2005 6:45 am

You really can't judge a single pick in a vaccum--a draft is a puzzle and each pick is just a piece. The first few rounds might be the corner and edge pieces, but they are all just pieces.

Say for instance you are really, really good at indentifying sleeper hitters and not so good at judging pitching. You can rely on your expertise in the later rounds to pick up quality offense, thus can afford a couple of stud pitchers early.

Its all a matter of playing to your strong suit and balancing it with the ability to get a feel for your opponents.

And for those that care, I make a lot of mistakes once, but I generally don't make them twice. What happened last year in the main event NFBC was a mistake and I regret it. It hurt my reputation and more importantly the reputation of some of my partners at my site who had nothing to do with the situation. There were specific circumstances that led to my unfortunate actions, circumstances that I have made sure won't happen again.

viper · Post by **viper** » Sat Feb 05, 2005 7:18 am

LBG - to answer the real question you have, it would be best not to partner with someone who has either a totally different drafting philosophy or a different playing philosophy. I speak from experience on this matter. Hearing their ideas is fine but trying to work with them thru a draft and a full season will be frustrating at best and the "at worst" isn't anything you would want to have happen to you.

Moneymaker · Post by **Moneymaker** » Sat Feb 05, 2005 12:52 pm

Originally posted by ToddZ:

And for those that care, I make a lot of mistakes once, but I generally don't make them twice. What happened last year in the main event NFBC was a mistake and I regret it. I'm cool with that.

eddiejag · Post by **eddiejag** » Sat Feb 05, 2005 1:10 pm

I agree with leaderboard sports, you need to find the sleepers or steals in middle or late rounds.I finished 2nd to artie last year in newyork 1 . He picked up beltre and sheets in round 13 and 14, and aaron rowand in round 26.Where will they go this year.Myself hafner in round 21 and carlos guillen round 23.I also stay away from older players and guys who seem to get hurt. Doesnt work all the time as i took delgado on a contract year an usally healthy, he went down for 7 weeks and his teammate vernon wells , an other young stud who was hurt all year. If you can stay away from injury you will do allright. I ALSO WON THE NEW YORK AUCTION,did that by staying away from the injury bug. EDDIEJAG OR THE BAD ass ANGELS