Incredible Stat

DOUGHBOYS · Post by **DOUGHBOYS** » Wed Jul 22, 2009 6:16 am

I go over obscure stats alot. This one just floored me. The question is simple. What team in baseball has the most rbi from the ninth position in the batting order? Not one player, just the ninth position.

My thoughts went immediately to the Yankees, Rangers, and RedSox. Nope the Yankees are third with 39 and the RedSox are second with 40.

Think about it, I'll put the answer at the bottom.

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.The Colorado Rockies have 41 rbi from the ninth spot. Better than any team from the American League. Good hitting pitchers and timely pinch hitting have been the main factors.

There are alot of overpaid ninth hitters in the A.L.

Greg Ambrosius · Post by **Greg Ambrosius** » Wed Jul 22, 2009 12:16 pm

Not to take away from your stat above Dan, but I read something in Sports Illustrated this week that deserved attention and I was actually going to start a separate thread for it. This one will suffice.

In last week's "Where Are They Now" issue of SI, they featured Earl Weaver on a very interesting seven page feature story. I'll admit I was never a big Earl Weaver fan, but there's no doubt he was ahead of his time, he was a winner and he definitely knew how to manage teams. He played for the three-run homer and he left his pitchers in to pitch a lot of innings, unconventional then and even unconventional in some ways now.

But here are two interesting stats from that article:

** He won a pennant one year by making only 167 pitching changes in 159 games. Incredible.

** Another year he won a championship by using 12 pitchers...the whole season!!! Including the World Series. Amazing.

** During 12 full seasons managing the Orioles, Weaver averaged 97 wins per year. In 11 of them he won at least 90 games and only time he didn't win 90 he won 88.

Ryan C · Post by **Ryan C** » Wed Jul 22, 2009 12:45 pm

Now that is a truly amazing Stat-crazy!

Love or hate Weaver - he was entertaing. Still can see him tearing up the rule book and throwing the pieces in the air.

headhunters · Post by **headhunters** » Wed Jul 22, 2009 1:08 pm

just google earl weaver and watch a couple of those videos. the one on the flanagan balk is great. note- 100 win season, 4 hall of famers on the team, maybe 10,000 people at the game. build a new stadium that is "fun" to go to- 40,000 every game- until current ownership ran it into the ground.

DOUGHBOYS · Post by **DOUGHBOYS** » Thu Jul 23, 2009 3:35 am

12 pitchers the whole season. Some managers want 13 pitchers on their roster today. Amazing.

Great stuff, Greg.

Makes me wonder if Earl would have gone down as one of the best managers if he weren't supplied with Palmer, Cuellar, McNally, Dobson, and all the other horses he had.

Billy Martin had moderate success a few years later using the same pitching philosophy. He didn't have the three-run homer guys though. Billy Ball has become small ball.

DOUGHBOYS · Post by **DOUGHBOYS** » Thu Jul 23, 2009 5:04 am

An off the wall stat.

Dr James Andrews has logged in over 40,000 surgeries. He is 67. And still at the top of his profession. 1,000 surgeries per year comes out to three-a-day. Incredible. He has done over 2,500 Tommy John surgeries alone.

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Navel Lint · Post by **Navel Lint** » Fri Jul 24, 2009 3:51 am

Park Effect;

Each spring players change teams and we talk about how their new park will affect the stats of those players. This past spring there was a lot of talk about Matt Holliday and his move to Oakland.

So….I’m looking at HR’s per game for this season and I see that Progressive Field in Cleveland is last with a 0.722 average. Then a look at 2001 which is a far back as the stats go on ESPN and I see that Progressive Field was number one with 2.031 per game.

I don’t remember if there have been major changes to the field in that time, but first to last is a big change.

My question is; What percentage is park effect on a players stats? 10%? 20%? More? Or is it the set of players that happen to be on the team during any 3 year period that ‘create’ the park effect.

DOUGHBOYS · Post by **DOUGHBOYS** » Fri Jul 24, 2009 11:57 am

Here's an unbelievable k-bb ratio.

Aaron Harang, in his career, has struck out 178 times, with three base on balls.

There is no truth to the rumor that Milton Bradley is trying to better it in one year.

Harang hit his first career home run today.

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BROOKLYN BOBBY · Post by **BROOKLYN BOBBY** » Fri Jul 24, 2009 12:32 pm

another stat...ryan howard vs lefties last 3 years...bating average..181...224...225.....590 at bats...237 strikeouts...as frank barone would say....HOLY CRAP!!!

ToddZ · Post by **ToddZ** » Fri Jul 24, 2009 3:29 pm

Originally posted by Navel Lint:

My question is; What percentage is park effect on a players stats? 10%? 20%? More? Or is it the set of players that happen to be on the team during any 3 year period that ‘create’ the park effect. There are a few different ways to calculate park effects, though most are just basically a refinement of the general method attempting to account for imbalances such as different schedules and home team not batting in victories. The basic formula is designed to flesh out the bias of the quality of the home teams lineup and staff.

Here is the equation for HR, you can sub in any stat

HR Index = (HR hit and home + HR allowed at home )/#home games)) / ((HR hit on the road + HR allowed on the road)/#road games)

DOUGHBOYS · Post by **DOUGHBOYS** » Sat Jul 25, 2009 3:54 am

Albert Pujols has 34 home runs.

The New York Mets have 54 home runs.

The San Diego Padres have 31 more homers than the Mets.

The Mets have less homers on the road than at Citi.

The Mets have 5 home runs in July.

Garrett Jones has 10 home runs in July.

David Wright has 0 home runs in July, with three rbi.

Luis Rodriquez of the Padres had three rbi last night.

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Ryan C · Post by **Ryan C** » Mon Jul 27, 2009 12:51 pm

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DOUGHBOYS · Post by **DOUGHBOYS** » Wed Jul 29, 2009 7:37 am

Ben Francisco and Jeff Clement seem to be the early losers as far as playing time goes.

Clement may get some time in a platoon with Pearce and backing Doumit. Losing dh time will hurt.

Francisco will be behind the Ibanez, Victorino, and Werth outfield.

The merry-go-round of bad shortstops continues for Pittsburgh, Kansas City, and Seattle.

Betancourt, Cedeno, and Wilson always have a shot for a job with these three franchises.

BROOKLYN BOBBY · Post by **BROOKLYN BOBBY** » Sun Aug 09, 2009 3:28 am

there is a movement at hand in mlb among baseballs rulemakers....there is serious talk of making any homerun hit at the phillies home park count as only 1/2 a home run....there was evidently a middle school girls softball game recently held there and balls were flying out of the park....mlb said enough is enough

JohnZ · Post by **JohnZ** » Sun Aug 09, 2009 9:33 pm

WASH 8 straight wins

PITT 8 straight losses

Morgan

2009 WAS 35 138 27 50 7 1 1 9 8 20 18 5 .362 .407 .449 .856

Milledge

2009 PIT 10 41 2 12 2 0 0 5 1 8 1 2 .293 .310 .341 .651

sportsbettingman · Post by **sportsbettingman** » Mon Aug 10, 2009 3:15 pm

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