RotoTimes Rant

DOUGHBOYS · Post by **DOUGHBOYS** » Wed Jul 29, 2009 5:25 am

Some RotoTimes blurbs that have caught the eye...

Some "views" may be a little harsh...

Josh Fields wants to be traded-

Really Josh? You were given the third base job out of spring training and responded with a resounding thud. You were given the opportunity to hit near the top, the middle, and the end of the lineup. You're in one of the best hitting parks in baseball. You were in a good lineup.

Is there anything else the White Sox can do for you? In some players minds, performance, even if it be underperformance, should always be rewarded. Fields mindset isn't one of getting better and re-taking third base, its one of I can take underperforming somewhere else.

Tony Pena switching from shortstop to pitcher-

Maybe this is what all Tony Pena's of the world aspire to? If Pena stays with KC, it'll save him the embarrassment of being one of the worst hitting pitchers in the National League. His .098 average would be laughed at by most rival pitchers. On the bright side, he should be one smooth fielding pitcher.

Khalil Greene has two homers at AAA-

So?

He's a big league hitter hitting against minor league pitching. If he strikes out three times and actually plays the next day, that, would be your story.

Seattle rumored to be trading Clement and Morrow-

This is why bad teams remain bad teams. If true, it means the Mariners management wants to hang their star on this current team. Forsaking future stars like Clement and Morrow, while Langerhans and Cedeno are in their everyday lineup...Brilliant!

Haren has bad outing-

We all know the writers for RotoTimes phone it in. Their 'views' are forever flawed. In this case they are surprised by Haren's bad outing and that he should be back to his dominant self the next time out. A little homework would reveal that Haren has never been a second half pitcher and that dominance would be a good thing for his owners, not an expected thing.

Their 'views' are sk(r)ewed.

RotoTimes needs a makeover.

Their logic as of now, is that if David Wright hits 12 home runs this year, than surely, he will hit 12 next year. They have little imagination and no due diligence. Other sites are beginning to get their news almost as fast. When RotoTimes loses that niche, they will be of no use.

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bjoak · Post by **bjoak** » Wed Jul 29, 2009 6:15 am

Haren, post all-star 2008:

94 Ks, 18 walks, and 9 homers in 90.1 innings. The ERA wasn't perfectly cooperative at 4.18, but I'll take those peripherals every time regardless of whose name is on the uniform and what his reputation may be.

Here we are in 2009. An unsustainable 2.19 ERA and one of the worst defenses in baseball will make for a higher second half ERA despite more good peripherals this year. At least I know he'll be a bargain on draft day again next year.

Dirt Dogs · Post by **Dirt Dogs** » Wed Jul 29, 2009 6:17 am

Dont worry! Seattle just got Jack Wilson and Ian Snell to stack their team for the good future.

HA HA

NorCalAtlFan · Post by **NorCalAtlFan** » Wed Jul 29, 2009 6:50 am

The k's are all well and good, but his hit rate goes through the roof. Throw in the increasing HR rate and you have a great 1st half pitcher and a subpar 2nd half pitcher.

In a perfect world, you trade him for Adam LaRoche at the break:)

sportsbettingman · Post by **sportsbettingman** » Wed Jul 29, 2009 8:07 am

Originally posted by DOUGHBOYS:

We all know the writers for RotoTimes phone it in. Their 'views' are forever flawed. In this case they are surprised by Haren's bad outing and that he should be back to his dominant self the next time out. A little homework would reveal that Haren has never been a second half pitcher and that dominance would be a good thing for his owners, not an expected thing.

Their 'views' are sk(r)ewed.

RotoTimes needs a makeover.

Their logic as of now, is that if David Wright hits 12 home runs this year, than surely, he will hit 12 next year. They have little imagination and no due diligence. Other sites are beginning to get their news almost as fast. When RotoTimes loses that niche, they will be of no use. Agreed.

Imagine how much worse off you'd be if you ONLY used RotoTimes as your source of timely info...

These both came out Friday, July 24th...same player, same day, same news source...

From RotoTimes:

July 24, 2009

Jonathon Niese has been slated to start Saturday's game against the Astros, according to MetsBlog.com. It is uncertain who the Mets will demote to recall Niese from Triple-A.

Our View:Niese holds a poor 5.91 ERA and 1.50 WHIP over two starts (10.2 innings), and is only an option for deeper fantasy leagues.

From RotoWorld:

Jon Niese-S - Mets Jul. 24 - 5:04 pm et

The Mets have announced that Jon Niese will be called up to start Saturday against the Astros.

Combine Niese's 0.96 ERA over his last eight starts with John Maine's visit to Dr. James Andrews, and Niese might be more than just a fill-in option for your fantasy team.

Source: Metsblog.com

This happens quite often, with RotoTimes having the more incorrect info or slant most.

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swampass · Post by **swampass** » Wed Jul 29, 2009 8:08 am

i hear you on rototimes becoming a disappointment. ive almost given up on the site as they have decided to have video link stories with some dork as opposed to a written article. what do we gain here? ill tell ya.. nothing good. go back to the written stories and stop wasting our time with video links.... they stink!

eddiejag · Post by **eddiejag** » Wed Jul 29, 2009 1:25 pm

They do do a good job on the podcast's daily.

They go deep on tuesday's with the minor league system's and some of the guys play in the NFBC.

So they are talking to the NFBC crowd.

DOUGHBOYS · Post by **DOUGHBOYS** » Wed Jul 29, 2009 5:56 pm

I'm not familiar with their podcast.

Their site needs to be overhauled as well as their capsule writers.

bjoak · Post by **bjoak** » Wed Jul 29, 2009 6:35 pm

Originally posted by NorCalAtlFan:

The k's are all well and good, but his hit rate goes through the roof. Throw in the increasing HR rate and you have a great 1st half pitcher and a subpar 2nd half pitcher.

In a perfect world, you trade him for Adam LaRoche at the break:) Tell me, Bryan. What goes into a hit rate?

NorCalAtlFan · Post by **NorCalAtlFan** » Wed Jul 29, 2009 7:59 pm

Hey Buddy, how did the BP writing contest go?

You're right. I meant hits per 9 inning. I'm a moron.

BTW, Hit rate is a metric or measure of business performance traditionally associated with sales.

GOD Loves You · Post by **GOD Loves You** » Thu Jul 30, 2009 2:05 am

Originally posted by eddiejag:

They do do a good job on the podcast's daily.

They go deep on tuesday's with the minor league system's and some of the guys play in the NFBC.

So they are talking to the NFBC crowd. Unless I'm mistaken, I think you are referring to wire, not times .

eddiejag · Post by **eddiejag** » Thu Jul 30, 2009 4:59 am

Im sorry im am talking about rotowire and feel they do a great job.

bjoak · Post by **bjoak** » Thu Jul 30, 2009 5:04 am

Originally posted by NorCalAtlFan:

Hey Buddy, how did the BP writing contest go?

You're right. I meant hits per 9 inning. I'm a moron.

BTW, Hit rate is a metric or measure of business performance traditionally associated with sales. Hey, it went all right. I'm not sure how you can see it any other way...unless you're bitter.

I'll take your answer to mean you have no idea. H/9, as you say, is affected by K/9, defense, and luck. Some other things affect it in minute ways, which Zola and I detailed on these boards not long ago (maybe the Blanton thread), but basically it's those three things. There has been enough research done on this that trying to disprove it would be like trying to disprove evolution or the big bang.

The point is that if Haren's K rate was fine, it was left up to defense and luck, which I wouldn't expect to be predictably worse in the second half.

NorCalAtlFan · Post by **NorCalAtlFan** » Thu Jul 30, 2009 5:13 am

I was pulling for you.

Whatever it is, he's sucked 2 straight 2nd halves and going on a 3rd. Luck, poor defense, whatever other metric you want to use to qualify the sucking, it's happening.

DOUGHBOYS · Post by **DOUGHBOYS** » Thu Jul 30, 2009 5:18 am

Typical numbers guy!

I imagine Haren's psyche for the second half of season's has to be wilting and has wilted before. Haren has no idea who will be in the clubhouse with him tomorrow, let alone his defense behind him.

He's pitching for a team that needs to extend themselves to be called mediocre. That grind has to be tough.

My point is, that your numbers point and my Haren's psyche and previous second half's thoughts are not in the realm of RotoTimes writers.

Their views are of no relevance to fantasy players, unless just beginning fantasy baseball.

DOUGHBOYS · Post by **DOUGHBOYS** » Mon Aug 03, 2009 2:05 pm

Haren staked to a 2nd inning lead of 6-0. Game should be over. Nope. 6-5 in the sixth.

sportsbettingman · Post by **sportsbettingman** » Mon Aug 03, 2009 3:09 pm

What was Mark Reynolds ADP?

The guy makes me want to throw up!

Gift wrapped!

40-30???

45-30???

Greg Ambrosius · Post by **Greg Ambrosius** » Mon Aug 03, 2009 3:18 pm

Originally posted by sportsbettingman:

What was Mark Reynolds ADP?2009 ADP in the main event was 196.19, with an early pick of 127 and a low pick of 238.

sportsbettingman · Post by **sportsbettingman** » Mon Aug 03, 2009 3:32 pm

Originally posted by Greg Ambrosius:

quote:Originally posted by sportsbettingman:

What was Mark Reynolds ADP?2009 ADP in the main event was 196.19, with an early pick of 127 and a low pick of 238. [/QUOTE]They (we) should create a new slogan for guys like that...a Cancellor ©

They get drafted in the 10th round or later, and basically CANCEL out a first rounder!

Glenneration X · Post by **Glenneration X** » Mon Aug 03, 2009 3:58 pm

Just an FYI.....Mark Reynolds went in the 4th round in the mid-season draft....I passed on him 4 times....yayyy me.

I think he'd go higher today.

Glenn

Edwards Kings · Post by **Edwards Kings** » Thu Aug 06, 2009 12:38 am

Originally posted by swampass:

i hear you on rototimes becoming a disappointment. Rototimes this 12:12 AM CT:

"After a one-game reprieve, the Jason Schmidt experiment went back to being a disaster for the Dodgers on Wednesday. The soft-tossing righty allowed five runs in just 3.2 innings while walking three batters. L.A. lost 4-1 to the Brewers at home."

He gave up five runs, but LAD only lost 4-1? C'mon Rototimes...haven't you ever heard of an editor?

In a related news story, MLB Commissar Bud Selig, after consulting with Kennesaw Mountain Landis and PeeWee Herman, invoked a little known rule allowing LAD to remove one run from a sad losing effort as compensation for ex-vegetarian Prince Fielder scaring the unholy crap out of the entire team yesterday.

Dodger team spokesperson was quoted as saying "I was in there when this huge guy starts banging on the door screaming "I want blood...give me meat!" and most of us stopped playing grabass and started heading for the hills. Mota is still having post-traumatic stress...It was all we could do to even get him out of his "Hello Kitty" jammies to suit up for the game!"

JohnZ · Post by **JohnZ** » Thu Aug 06, 2009 8:04 am

Originally posted by Edwards Kings:

quote:Originally posted by swampass:

i hear you on rototimes becoming a disappointment. Rototimes this 12:12 AM CT:

"After a one-game reprieve, the Jason Schmidt experiment went back to being a disaster for the Dodgers on Wednesday. The soft-tossing righty allowed five runs in just 3.2 innings while walking three batters. L.A. lost 4-1 to the Brewers at home."

He gave up five runs, but LAD only lost 4-1? C'mon Rototimes...haven't you ever heard of an editor?

In a related news story, MLB Commissar Bud Selig, after consulting with Kennesaw Mountain Landis and PeeWee Herman, invoked a little known rule allowing LAD to remove one run from a sad losing effort as compensation for ex-vegetarian Prince Fielder scaring the unholy crap out of the entire team yesterday.

Dodger team spokesperson was quoted as saying "I was in there when this huge guy starts banging on the door screaming "I want blood...give me meat!" and most of us stopped playing grabass and started heading for the hills. Mota is still having post-traumatic stress...It was all we could do to even get him out of his "Hello Kitty" jammies to suit up for the game!" [/QUOTE]Better than this was the post a few days ago on RotoWorld that gave Kendry Morales all sorts of credit for a walk-off double to win the game. RW listed how hot he was the past few games with all sorts of stats.

Problem is Kendry went 0-5 in the game and Napoli hit the double.

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