2010 NFBC Draft Dates and Locations Revealed

NorCalAtlFan · Post by **NorCalAtlFan** » Fri Oct 09, 2009 8:57 am

very nice ryan.

if people want to draft multiple teams, more power to them.

Schwks · Post by **Schwks** » Fri Oct 09, 2009 8:57 am

RE: VIP party: Do we share the room with the Star Trek convention?

Greg Ambrosius · Post by **Greg Ambrosius** » Fri Oct 09, 2009 8:59 am

Originally posted by Kentucky Reign:

IMHO

i feel better going to the weekend before the season opens. we've all taken players in early leagues, whether it's NFFC or NFBC, and regretted it. the closer to opening day, the better for us all.

bill Agreed Bill. I admit it was me holding onto the March Madness weekend these last couple of years. I think we all love that weekend in Las Vegas. But we now have a system in place for entering rosters more quickly and I think we can have the draft 8 days before Opening Day and rosters correctly entered by Tuesday and FAAB open for all leagues by Sunday of Opening Day. We couldn't have done that before joining Fanball.

So the last weekend of March now makes sense and hopefully folks understand. If in the future that's the only weekend folks want, we'll go that route. But right now it's possible that we could dominate on both weekends of March and really grow this for everyone.

CC's Desperados · Post by **CC's Desperados** » Fri Oct 09, 2009 9:02 am

Originally posted by Dirt Dogs:

based on the new rules, Whats to stop Shawn Childs (who lives MA) from taking a train to NY the first weekend, drafting a killer team, and then doing his trip to LV for the following weekend and doing two Main Event teams. For 100K I would if i was him considering he's top 10 every year.

Dont you feel that the odds he has to win are now greater??

I'm not singling Shawn out for any reason other than his name rings a bell with everyone but he just like every other owner should only have one main event team.

You are avoiding this topic in all of your replies. Don't worry I'll be in Vegas for 12 days! I'm here to play fantasy baseball. There is so much a player can handle.

Likewhat17 · Post by **Likewhat17** » Fri Oct 09, 2009 9:03 am

I get the idea of appealing to everyone, and having multiple weekends in case someone has a prior commitment is a great way to grow the event.. Like others though, I really dislike the idea of one owner having multiple teams..

I know that in years past and in other events, one owner may have had his hand in more than one team, but actually sitting at the table and being the one reacting to what other teams do and making the decisions is far different than having someone draft a squad for you.

Greg Ambrosius · Post by **Greg Ambrosius** » Fri Oct 09, 2009 9:04 am

Originally posted by Dirt Dogs:

sounds good greg,

I see your point and i dont feel there is any advantage to double drafting. I just like the fact that the main event is a one owner/one team right now. Unless you have guys drafting teams for you, but unless Gekko/Childs and others are Houdini when they sit down in LV/NY to draft they are there and not in other states drafting live.

thats the nostalga of the main event. Like the WSOP, everyone has one chance. I hear ya. One team, one chance, one $100,000 grand prize winner. But let's get back to your goal in the NFBC: You are playing 14 other die-hard fantasy players for your league title. You are working your ass off to beat those 14 owners for the league title. You are now doing it one week before Opening Day, eliminating the damn Rafael Furcal sprained ankles, John Lackey injuries, etc., that have happened recently after NFBC Draft Day. You are going to be drafting with more food and beverage than ever before and in better locations. The prize money could jump. And we are offering two weekends now just in case one doesn't work out for you, which happens.

You still must win your NFBC league title and then you can worry about both of Shawn's teams in the other leagues, right? I hear ya on this and respect your thoughts on this. But the core of the NFBC is still intact and will be much better in so many ways. Hopefully all will see that once we walk through all of our plans.

RichV · Post by **RichV** » Fri Oct 09, 2009 9:05 am

Maybe this set up allows a person to sit at 2 main event drafts, but to think people weren't "involved" in more than one main event team over these past 6 years pretty naive. There's plenty "syndicates", and partners, who drafted multiple teams and then collaborate on weekly moves.

Injuries, and the announcements that final week of starters, and pitching rotations are the biggest drawbacks to drafts on different weekends. Like it has been said, no one's forcing you draft week one, so maybe there's less of an issue than I originally thought.

Gekko · Post by **Gekko** » Fri Oct 09, 2009 9:06 am

Originally posted by Dirt Dogs:

Thats impossible, unless your having someone draft it for you but even at that it's not 100% your team.

you draft one team. your friend using your cheatsheet drafts the other. i believe Shawn himself tried this strategy.

Gekko · Post by **Gekko** » Fri Oct 09, 2009 9:10 am

Originally posted by Dirt Dogs:

sounds good greg,

I see your point and i dont feel there is any advantage to double drafting. I just like the fact that the main event is a one owner/one team right now. Unless you have guys drafting teams for you, but unless Gekko/Childs and others are Houdini when they sit down in LV/NY to draft they are there and not in other states drafting live.

thats the nostalga of the main event. Like the WSOP, everyone has one chance. no BS, in the NFFC draft this year, an owner at my table was flying around to two other draft tables making picks. he owns THREE teams in one event.

751542 · Post by **751542** » Fri Oct 09, 2009 9:10 am

shawn child...shawn childs....shawn childs...who is this guy i wanna meet him!!!!

crazytown · Post by **crazytown** » Fri Oct 09, 2009 9:12 am

Okay, this might be a stretch.

Greg, will you allow spectators at the 1st weekend main event draft?

Since I live in Vegas a mile off the strip, why not drive over and see who Lindy drafts that 1st weekend.

Thanks

CC's Desperados · Post by **CC's Desperados** » Fri Oct 09, 2009 9:13 am

Originally posted by Dirt Dogs:

How do you draft multiple NFBC teams?

Thats impossible, unless your having someone draft it for you but even at that it's not 100% your team.

Gekko,

I just feel that with the main event it should be one team/one owner for the title. Winner take all baby! I tried this two years ago in New York and sent someone a scripted draft. The team I drafted came in 3rd overall and the New York team came in 5th in the league.

Last year I drafted from the 11th slot in the main and the ultimate. I won my league in the main, but I was no where to be found in the ultimate. With every group of drafters, the playing field changes. By entering two teams, there is no guarentee of success. No matter what you have to beat 14 other owners in order to have a chance at the overall. By having another ticket, your odds might seem better. But you still have to get it done during the draft and the season.

I posted a ton of stuff on this subject last February. I can find my posts and just copy them here.

Greg Ambrosius · Post by **Greg Ambrosius** » Fri Oct 09, 2009 9:15 am

Originally posted by RichV:

Maybe this set up allows a person to sit at 2 main event drafts, but to think people weren't "involved" in more than one main event team over these past 6 years pretty naive. There's plenty "syndicates", and partners, who drafted multiple teams and then collaborate on weekly moves.

Injuries, and the announcements that final week of starters, and pitching rotations are the biggest drawbacks to drafts on different weekends. Like it has been said, no one's forcing you draft week one, so maybe there's less of an issue than I originally thought. It's a change Rich and we understand that. Moving off of March Madness was a change too and not all will like that. But drafting closer to Opening Day makes sense, all other things considered.

So we're back to the objection of one person having two main event teams and drafting teams twice. Nobody objected to that in the NFBC Online Championship and honestly some guys will tell you their last teams were their worst teams. But we'll consider the objections to this and maybe there's one slight solution that will help things. Let me think that one through.

CC's Desperados · Post by **CC's Desperados** » Fri Oct 09, 2009 9:17 am

Originally posted by Ryan E. Houston:

The ? you should all be asking --

How do you earn one of these:

Details on those later!

Let's get through the shock of this and we can start concentrating on all the good news surrounding these events. I'd prefer the VIP to the Fisher Party, but I guess this will do!

Thunder · Post by **Thunder** » Fri Oct 09, 2009 9:18 am

how many people took advantage of the savings of drafting three online teams this year? didn't here any complaints about that!

Greg Ambrosius · Post by **Greg Ambrosius** » Fri Oct 09, 2009 9:18 am

Originally posted by crazytown.gov:

Okay, this might be a stretch.

Greg, will you allow spectators at the 1st weekend main event draft?

Since I live in Vegas a mile off the strip, why not drive over and see who Lindy drafts that 1st weekend.

Thanks We don't allow any spectators at any of our live NFBC drafts. Plain and simple.

CC's Desperados · Post by **CC's Desperados** » Fri Oct 09, 2009 9:22 am

Don't worry no one wins the overall title in Vegas. Chicago is where champions are made!

What happened to that thread?

DOUGHBOYS · Post by **DOUGHBOYS** » Fri Oct 09, 2009 9:25 am

Most men will balk at any major change. It's just the way we're wired.

I am sort of pumped for it. If I could talk to the Mrs. and get her to make two getaway trips two consecutive weekends, it'd be sweet. The more than one chance, one entry doesen't bother me.

It grows the event. I am all for growing this event. Really, if someone fears Shawn that much...DON'T GO TO VEGAS. He's already said that is where he is drafting. Seriously though, we all know inwardly that we can beat Shawn or anybody in this tournament. If we didn't believe that we wouldn't fork over the $1300.

Eventually, we'll see if this will be a good move. My guess is that it only helps build the NFBC. If the prize money grows to $200,000, in part because of two entries from some players, I think a lot less people would be critical of the change.

Walla Walla · Post by **Walla Walla** » Fri Oct 09, 2009 9:27 am

Well on second thought I can do two main events

on the same day. One for the NFBC and one for the

WCOFB. The AL and NL auctions were my favorites.

But it looks like some of the players in those leagues might not make it. So thanks Greg for killing the single auction leagues and allowing me to join the other main event.

Greg Ambrosius · Post by **Greg Ambrosius** » Fri Oct 09, 2009 9:33 am

Originally posted by Walla Walla:

Well on second thought I can do two main events

on the same day. One for the NFBC and one for the

WCOFB. The AL and NL auctions were my favorites.

But it looks like some of the players in those leagues might not make it. So thanks Greg for killing the single auction leagues and allowing me to join the other main event.

Correct and it's certainly your right to compete in any contest that you'd like. We have no problem with that. We're now bringing a lot of folks to Las Vegas that weekend, but we honestly think that when you see everything we're offering you won't play anywhere else. You'll see very soon.

And John you are off base (pun intended) for stating that about the auction leagues without knowing who can make it that second weekend. I am going out of my way to offer the same Friday auction league schedule as last year for those who want to play at the $1300 level. So what's your beef? Most of the same folks will be there on that Friday and if you want to compete in both sign up right away or get left behind. It's as easy as that. I haven't changed a thing for you.

Good luck in whatever baseball choices you make.

DOUGHBOYS · Post by **DOUGHBOYS** » Fri Oct 09, 2009 9:35 am

Opie, this thread has to feel as good as your accomplishment thread. FTO- Fear The Opie!!

Walla Walla · Post by **Walla Walla** » Fri Oct 09, 2009 9:46 am

Greg, What Friday would that be? You never made that statement.

DOUGHBOYS · Post by **DOUGHBOYS** » Fri Oct 09, 2009 9:52 am

Originally posted by Ryan E. Houston:

The ? you should all be asking --

How do you earn one of these:

Details on those later!

Let's get through the shock of this and we can start concentrating on all the good news surrounding these events. Nah, any exclusive club or party that would have me as a member seizes to be exclusive.

Greg Ambrosius · Post by **Greg Ambrosius** » Fri Oct 09, 2009 9:57 am

Originally posted by Walla Walla:

Greg, What Friday would that be? You never made that statement.

John, I did state that right away. I asked Shawn and Todd to reach out to members in both events since they are in both themselves and get a pulse of the owners to see which weekend works best for them. You know we have the same corps of guys for each one each year and I think everyone wants to keep this intact if we can. Todd said he would take charge of this mandate from me and will get back to me. I'll do what the group says. That's the kind of guy I am!!

So folks are thinking the worst of some things without seeing the facts yet. I have a feeling when the dust settles folks will start to make their plans known here and all will work out. The group will migrate to the best dates for them and all will work out. And when we announce everything you'll see what I mean.

Vander · Post by **Vander** » Fri Oct 09, 2009 9:58 am

Didn't Groucho once say "I wouldn't join any club that would have me as a member"?