First Weekend Draft Spots To BE Announced: Friday, 11 ET

Greg Ambrosius · Post by **Greg Ambrosius** » Thu Mar 11, 2010 5:18 am

Okay, we are ready to move forward with the draft announcements of our main events for Saturday, March 20th. We will announce all of the leagues and all of the draft orders online starting at 11 am ET, maybe even a few minutes before that (because I have a meeting shortly after that). We will do like we always do and that's post them city by city and have some fun with this.

We have these leagues to announce:

3 main events in Atlantic City (and they will be full soonnn)

4 main events in Las Vegas (LV/STL combo included)

1 main event in St. Louis

I have already announced the auction leagues for that first weekend and should be able to do some of the Live Double Plays tomorrow as well. Stay tuned on that info.

We still have intentions of videotaping each of the eight first weekend main events, but it takes a lot of time to post them online and I don't want you guys to be delayed in your weekend preparations. But it will still be cool to see how the KDS preferences worked out after the random selections of each league and it will be something we'll have on the site for the rest of the year. So look for that after we announce the draft selections on the site.

So this is going to be a KICK ASS day tomorrow here on the NFBC boards!!!

Damn, I'm excited just thinking about this. If you're wondering: Random selections are happening now for St. Louis and Las Vegas, with Atlantic City to follow this afternoon after we're full. Say a prayer now and then hope your KDS preferences work out.

ARE YOU READY FOR SOME BASEBALL?

YEAH BOY!!!

See ya tomorrow on the message boards for some draft picks!!

sportsbettingman · Post by **sportsbettingman** » Thu Mar 11, 2010 5:20 am

Aside from missing Vegas...this is the day I'll miss the most! Finding out who you'll get to compete against in your league, and from what slot. Damn I miss it! Next year for sure!!!

Greg Ambrosius · Post by **Greg Ambrosius** » Thu Mar 11, 2010 5:46 am

Originally posted by sportsbettingman:

Aside from missing Vegas...this is the day I'll miss the most! Finding out who you'll get to compete against in your league, and from what slot. Damn I miss it! Next year for sure!!! There's still a spot in LV the second weekend waiting for you Lance.

King of Queens · Post by **King of Queens** » Thu Mar 11, 2010 6:25 am

Originally posted by sportsbettingman:

Aside from missing Vegas...this is the day I'll miss the most! Finding out who you'll get to compete against in your league, and from what slot. Damn I miss it! Next year for sure!!! You can't get this kind of action at Artichoke Joe's! GetcherasstoVegas!

Chest Rockwell · Post by **Chest Rockwell** » Thu Mar 11, 2010 6:41 am

Originally posted by Greg Ambrosius:

quote:Originally posted by sportsbettingman:

Aside from missing Vegas...this is the day I'll miss the most! Finding out who you'll get to compete against in your league, and from what slot. Damn I miss it! Next year for sure!!! There's still a spot in LV the second weekend waiting for you Lance.

[/QUOTE]And plenty of friends who will help you if the concrete business is a little tight these days. Where there is a will there is a way..

Chest Rockwell · Post by **Chest Rockwell** » Thu Mar 11, 2010 6:43 am

Greg,

Can we assume that the 2nd weekend leagues will be also the next Friday at 11am. It would not be fair for one set of drafters to have more prep time with their spots than the others... Especially weekend time.

Navel Lint · Post by **Navel Lint** » Thu Mar 11, 2010 6:53 am

Originally posted by Chest Rockwell:

Greg,

Can we assume that the 2nd weekend leagues will be also the next Friday at 11am. It would not be fair for one set of drafters to have more prep time with their spots than the others... Especially weekend time. What will be the answer to this question if Greg is unable to draw slots next Friday and has to wait additional days.

Timcards · Post by **Timcards** » Thu Mar 11, 2010 6:54 am

Correct me if I'm wrong, but you mean even though I was the 8th person to sign up for St.Louis I might be part of a combo league? How does that even work?

Hard Heads · Post by **Hard Heads** » Thu Mar 11, 2010 6:58 am

Originally posted by Timcards:

Correct me if I'm wrong, but you mean even though I was the 8th person to sign up for St.Louis I might be part of a combo league? How does that even work? 6 people at a draft table in St. Louis with a conference phone at the table. 9 people in Las Vegas with the same setup and you all draft. You can hear picks made over the phone and a facilitator will run the draft board in each venue. At least that is how it was run last year.

Frozen Tundra · Post by **Frozen Tundra** » Thu Mar 11, 2010 6:58 am

Originally posted by Chest Rockwell:

Greg,

Can we assume that the 2nd weekend leagues will be also the next Friday at 11am. It would not be fair for one set of drafters to have more prep time with their spots than the others... Especially weekend time. That would depend on getting 12 more players in a week's time. Maybe Rich Gannon can bring his O-Line...

Navel Lint · Post by **Navel Lint** » Thu Mar 11, 2010 7:02 am

Originally posted by Timcards:

Correct me if I'm wrong, but you mean even though I was the 8th person to sign up for St.Louis I might be part of a combo league? How does that even work? If you are drawn for the combo STL-LV league, you will still draft live in STL with other owners but part of your league will consist of owners that are drafting live in LV. You will be linked together via a phone hookup with a facilitator handling the communications

[ March 11, 2010, 01:04 PM: Message edited by: Navel Lint ]

JohnZ · Post by **JohnZ** » Thu Mar 11, 2010 7:04 am

Originally posted by Timcards:

Correct me if I'm wrong, but you mean even though I was the 8th person to sign up for St.Louis I might be part of a combo league? How does that even work? Last 7 in STL and last 8 in LV are the LV/STL League.

Timcards · Post by **Timcards** » Thu Mar 11, 2010 7:06 am

Why not have the first 15 who signed up form 1 league and the rest be part of the "combo"?

Chest Rockwell · Post by **Chest Rockwell** » Thu Mar 11, 2010 7:17 am

Originally posted by Navel Lint:

quote:Originally posted by Chest Rockwell:

Greg,

Can we assume that the 2nd weekend leagues will be also the next Friday at 11am. It would not be fair for one set of drafters to have more prep time with their spots than the others... Especially weekend time. What will be the answer to this question if Greg is unable to draw slots next Friday and has to wait additional days. [/QUOTE]In my mind the answer to getting them significantly earlier or later than previous weekend is not fair. I am all for the 2 weekend concept as long as one does not get an advantage within control. If you get your draft slot for an entire weekend and I do not you have an advantage. Anyone disagree?

Chest Rockwell · Post by **Chest Rockwell** » Thu Mar 11, 2010 7:19 am

Originally posted by AZSteamers:

quote:Originally posted by Chest Rockwell:

Greg,

Can we assume that the 2nd weekend leagues will be also the next Friday at 11am. It would not be fair for one set of drafters to have more prep time with their spots than the others... Especially weekend time. That would depend on getting 12 more players in a week's time. Maybe Rich Gannon can bring his O-Line... [/QUOTE]No it would not. I am not willing to let my opponents in the main event have more prep time b/c the nfbc wants to get one more league filled. You have to set a deadline. Hopefully this is all hypothetical and is never an issue.

Greg Ambrosius · Post by **Greg Ambrosius** » Thu Mar 11, 2010 7:21 am

Originally posted by Chest Rockwell:

Greg,

Can we assume that the 2nd weekend leagues will be also the next Friday at 11am. It would not be fair for one set of drafters to have more prep time with their spots than the others... Especially weekend time. Please. Tom and I will be hosting live drafts next Friday and won't have time to announce draft picks online exactly at 11 am ET. They will be done before then and if those folks have one extra day to prepare, so be it. The key is getting everything set in stone and done so that we can run the live events professionally for everyone. They will be announced before Friday of next week.

Greg Ambrosius · Post by **Greg Ambrosius** » Thu Mar 11, 2010 7:22 am

Originally posted by Timcards:

Correct me if I'm wrong, but you mean even though I was the 8th person to sign up for St.Louis I might be part of a combo league? How does that even work? No, first 15 in St. Louis are in that first league. Good luck.

Greg Ambrosius · Post by **Greg Ambrosius** » Thu Mar 11, 2010 7:26 am

Originally posted by Navel Lint:

quote:Originally posted by Chest Rockwell:

Greg,

Can we assume that the 2nd weekend leagues will be also the next Friday at 11am. It would not be fair for one set of drafters to have more prep time with their spots than the others... Especially weekend time. What will be the answer to this question if Greg is unable to draw slots next Friday and has to wait additional days. [/QUOTE]We will be full before next Friday. All of you already registered will get your draft spots earlier than those people who got their draft spots this first weekend. Now enjoy your week of preparation and by this time next week you'll likely have your draft spots.

Chest Rockwell · Post by **Chest Rockwell** » Thu Mar 11, 2010 7:28 am

Originally posted by Greg Ambrosius:

quote:Originally posted by Chest Rockwell:

Greg,

Can we assume that the 2nd weekend leagues will be also the next Friday at 11am. It would not be fair for one set of drafters to have more prep time with their spots than the others... Especially weekend time. Please. Tom and I will be hosting live drafts next Friday and won't have time to announce draft picks online exactly at 11 am ET. They will be done before then and if those folks have one extra day to prepare, so be it. The key is getting everything set in stone and done so that we can run the live events professionally for everyone. They will be announced before Friday of next week. [/QUOTE]Please save me the condescending please. I should have been more clear about what the same time meant. A couple of hour difference sure. Going 2 different weekends is a great idea if you keep the playing field level. I am not suggesting you have to do it exactly the same time. I am suggesting that you keep that in mind and fully expect people not being happy if you do make it a significant difference.

King of Queens · Post by **King of Queens** » Thu Mar 11, 2010 7:35 am

Originally posted by Chest Rockwell:

In my mind the answer to getting them significantly earlier or later than previous weekend is not fair. I am all for the 2 weekend concept as long as one does not get an advantage within control. If you get your draft slot for an entire weekend and I do not you have an advantage. Anyone disagree? The second weekend already has the built-in advantage. Better information = better teams.

As for the differences in prep time, to me it's a non-issue. We're talking an extra day or two at most -- weekdays no less.

Navel Lint · Post by **Navel Lint** » Thu Mar 11, 2010 7:40 am

Originally posted by Chest Rockwell:

quote:Originally posted by Navel Lint:

quote:Originally posted by Chest Rockwell:

Greg,

Can we assume that the 2nd weekend leagues will be also the next Friday at 11am. It would not be fair for one set of drafters to have more prep time with their spots than the others... Especially weekend time. What will be the answer to this question if Greg is unable to draw slots next Friday and has to wait additional days. [/QUOTE]In my mind the answer to getting them significantly earlier or later than previous weekend is not fair. I am all for the 2 weekend concept as long as one does not get an advantage within control. If you get your draft slot for an entire weekend and I do not you have an advantage. Anyone disagree? [/QUOTE]Personally I’m not in favor of the two weekend thing. I know all the reasons behind it and I’m not looking to rehash any arguments or get anything started.I just don't care for it.

I do agree that both weekends should be treated as equal as possible.

As for the “especially weekend time” part of your statement. Not all of us punch the M-F 9-5 time card. But I do completely agree with you that we should all have the same amount of time and since that time clock starts on Friday at 11 for week one it should start on Fri at 11 for week two.

Chest Rockwell · Post by **Chest Rockwell** » Thu Mar 11, 2010 7:42 am

Originally posted by King of Queens:

quote:Originally posted by Chest Rockwell:

In my mind the answer to getting them significantly earlier or later than previous weekend is not fair. I am all for the 2 weekend concept as long as one does not get an advantage within control. If you get your draft slot for an entire weekend and I do not you have an advantage. Anyone disagree? The second weekend already has the built-in advantage. Better information = better teams.

As for the differences in prep time, to me it's a non-issue. We're talking an extra day or two at most -- weekdays no less. [/QUOTE]Hey it has been 5 years since we disagreed. I made my point and Greg says it will not be an issue so I will drop it. First beer on you in Vegas.

mrhambone · Post by **mrhambone** » Thu Mar 11, 2010 7:44 am

This is bothering me. 1 or 2 days is a big deal to me. That is several mocks more that can be done. If you think you will be giving out the news before Friday next week why can we not see the week 1 spots today if you are drafting them? That seems fair to me. To sit on them seems unfair.

I know it's not much more time, but it is more time and that creates an uneven playing field however small you may think it is.

mrhambone · Post by **mrhambone** » Thu Mar 11, 2010 7:49 am

Opps, mis-remebered. Doesn't look like you a are pulling names today. My opinion still stands. Same amout of time should be granted for each week

Frozen Tundra · Post by **Frozen Tundra** » Thu Mar 11, 2010 7:51 am

In a perfect world, we would have all the leagues full by now and drafted at the same time. However, this is not perfect and the organizers are trying to balance making the classic more popular and pleasing us all.

I may be in the minority, but I do not see an extra day or two as such a great disadvantage, if that is what it would take to make the leagues full. We cannot just say "let's KDS" when the leagues are not full.

On the other hand, the second weekend has the bigger advantage of drafting later (knock knock...imagine if a top pick goes down between the weekends?) so the playing field is more than even.

[ March 11, 2010, 01:52 PM: Message edited by: AZSteamers ]