Utterly Ridiculous

sportsbettingman · Post by **sportsbettingman** » Sun Mar 21, 2010 12:08 pm

There are always SP that come into rotations. Elite ace-types? Not often, but solid ones. ...and they don't platoon like a batter. They are either in the rotation, or are not in it.

Gekko · Post by **Gekko** » Sun Mar 21, 2010 12:10 pm

Originally posted by The Mighty Men:

Based on your posts in the past, I never would have expected you to say that something "threw you off my game". I thought you would be prepared for anything and everything. Seriously, and I'm not trying to give you the business. 1. yes, my gameplan changed after the 4/5 turn. who's wouldn't?

2. i was prepared and did the best i could.

dealing with lawyers is always tough. seems like you need to give them a 10 paragraph disclaimer before you make a post or talk to them

Gekko · Post by **Gekko** » Sun Mar 21, 2010 12:11 pm

Originally posted by TOXIC ASSETS:

This scenario is EXACTLY why I have always believed that you better take an ace early on. Year after year there is plenty of hitting. Year after year there is a lot less reliable pitching. Yet most people continue to try to win with hitting. There are going to be teams in this league that are at a disadvantage, right out of the gate. when does shawn childs normally take his ace?

Thunder · Post by **Thunder** » Sun Mar 21, 2010 12:15 pm

Originally posted by Gekko:

quote:Originally posted by TOXIC ASSETS:

This scenario is EXACTLY why I have always believed that you better take an ace early on. Year after year there is plenty of hitting. Year after year there is a lot less reliable pitching. Yet most people continue to try to win with hitting. There are going to be teams in this league that are at a disadvantage, right out of the gate. when does shawn childs normally take his ace? [/QUOTE]maybe shawn's "ace" isn't the same ace as everybody else's

Gekko · Post by **Gekko** » Sun Mar 21, 2010 12:16 pm

Originally posted by Kentucky Reign:

quote:Originally posted by Gekko:

quote:Originally posted by TOXIC ASSETS:

This scenario is EXACTLY why I have always believed that you better take an ace early on. Year after year there is plenty of hitting. Year after year there is a lot less reliable pitching. Yet most people continue to try to win with hitting. There are going to be teams in this league that are at a disadvantage, right out of the gate. when does shawn childs normally take his ace? [/QUOTE]maybe shawn's "ace" isn't the same ace as everybody else's [/QUOTE]what do you mean? there's a team in every league that has shawn's ace

Thunder · Post by **Thunder** » Sun Mar 21, 2010 12:18 pm

agree

Gekko · Post by **Gekko** » Sun Mar 21, 2010 12:21 pm

Originally posted by Kentucky Reign:

quote:Originally posted by Gekko:

quote:Originally posted by Glenneration X:

The strangest part is it came out of nowhere....our facilitator kept the draft moving. we finished our draft while the other AC drafts were in round 20

i'm wondering if his quick pace helped caused a panic? if he's my facilitator in NY, I might have to bump pitcher up a little

[/QUOTE]this is "classic"....the facilitator aided in the SP run. [/QUOTE]you like that one!! we did finish our draft 10 rounds ahead of the other leagues. 10 rounds. that is ultrafast.

jdryan · Post by **jdryan** » Sun Mar 21, 2010 12:24 pm

Gekko, First time I have posted, but read the threads all the time. One thing about you I liked. You are always talking sheet. But for some reason everytime you do bad you have a excuse. You just lost 100 points in my book. The Draft flow should never throw you off your game always have to adjust. Last year wasn't it the Baby this year the draft flow and the Moderator. What will be your reason next week? The chair was not comfy.

Gekko · Post by **Gekko** » Sun Mar 21, 2010 12:27 pm

Originally posted by jdryan:

Gekko, First time I have posted, but read the threads all the time. One thing about you I liked. You are always talking sheet. But for some reason everytime you do bad you have a excuse. You just lost 100 points in my book. The Draft flow should never throw you off your game always have to adjust. Last year wasn't it the Baby this year the draft flow and the Moderator. What will be your reason next week? The chair was not comfy. so, first i get bashed for not being able to adjust. now i'm being bashed for switching gears and going with a different gameplan??

no excuses. i drafted a solid team that should compete. just found the SP run ridiculous. i can post that, can't it??? do i need to get your permission?

me thinks the MB has a split personality thing going

Gekko · Post by **Gekko** » Sun Mar 21, 2010 12:28 pm

Originally posted by jdryan:

But for some reason everytime you do bad you have a excuse. and who said i did "bad". stop making sheeeet up and seek counseling

Gekko · Post by **Gekko** » Sun Mar 21, 2010 12:34 pm

the cliffnotes...

1. SP run was ridiculous

2. I had to scrap my original plan

3. I drafted offense while others drafted pitchers

4. I drafted a competitive team

5. Draft was ultrafast

LONG GONE · Post by **LONG GONE** » Sun Mar 21, 2010 12:36 pm

We also had a so called suicide drafter.

Lincecum

Greinke

Sabethia

C. Lee

4 of his first 6 picks.

jdryan · Post by **jdryan** » Sun Mar 21, 2010 12:37 pm

Gekko, Good luck, just busting your balls. I like how you always talk sheet makes the posts enjoyable for me. Also sometimes very funny. You do take this game serious.

Auction King · Post by **Auction King** » Sun Mar 21, 2010 12:37 pm

The SP run looked exactly the same as my recent Sat. league draft where Matt Garza, Jered Weaver and John Lackey go in the 7th round because there are no top starters left.

King of Queens · Post by **King of Queens** » Sun Mar 21, 2010 12:39 pm

Originally posted by sportsbettingman:

Damn suicide drafter causing a panic run!!!

No joke, Lance. As soon as I heard about this pitcher run, I immediately had some "Thoughts..."

RichV · Post by **RichV** » Sun Mar 21, 2010 12:44 pm

The pace of our draft was sick. It started right from the begining. I had the 9th pick. It was my turn to make my 1st pick about 15 seconds into the draft. I knew who I wanted, but I took almost the full minute on my 1st pick just to finish crossing out the 8 names that were picked already. It was also the norm for the ends to make both picks in 2 seconds..."We take twidle dee and twidle dum, next...." I'm sure #2 and #14 more than once was thinking "Geez, you could've taken 15 seconds". More than a handfull of times I took my whole minute just to take a little break, take a drink, and catch up with the picks, trying to make sure I didn't miss anything. I've never been in such a fast draft before. There were 2 reason for this as far as I can tell.

1. One hell of a group of owners. I'd say the average time spent per pick was about 5-6 seconds. I know I took more time on each pick than most. Everyone was on their game. they all know their stuff. This league is gonna be a bitch.

2. The facilatator really kept it moving. I'm not sure how the guy with the stickers was getting them up on the board so fast either!

Gekko · Post by **Gekko** » Sun Mar 21, 2010 12:48 pm

Originally posted by RichV:

The pace of our draft was sick. It started right from the begining. Rich - Nice seeing you again.

But watchout, some people on these boards are going to think you are making excuses now because you said the pace was "sick".

Thunder · Post by **Thunder** » Sun Mar 21, 2010 12:53 pm

Originally posted by Gekko:

quote:Originally posted by Kentucky Reign:

quote:Originally posted by Gekko:

quote:Originally posted by Glenneration X:

The strangest part is it came out of nowhere....our facilitator kept the draft moving. we finished our draft while the other AC drafts were in round 20

i'm wondering if his quick pace helped caused a panic? if he's my facilitator in NY, I might have to bump pitcher up a little

[/QUOTE]this is "classic"....the facilitator aided in the SP run. [/QUOTE]you like that one!! we did finish our draft 10 rounds ahead of the other leagues. 10 rounds. that is ultrafast. [/QUOTE]so, what does that get you? a post on the boards about how you missed out on pitchers?

The Mighty Men · Post by **The Mighty Men** » Sun Mar 21, 2010 12:55 pm

I went back and checked our draft in St. Louis. We had 19 SP's drafted by the end of the 5th, and 10 just in the 5th round alone, including Kershaw, Gallardo, Hamels & C. Lee.

Gekko · Post by **Gekko** » Sun Mar 21, 2010 12:55 pm

Originally posted by Kentucky Reign:

so, what does that get you? a post on the boards about how you missed out on pitchers? it means whatever you want it to mean. people making picks very quickly could lead itself to picks based on "panic". as always, you can believe what you want.

bustouts · Post by **bustouts** » Sun Mar 21, 2010 12:56 pm

Regardless of the run on starters, the pace itself can throw you off your gameplan. I was in a draft 2 years ago and we finished an hour before the next closest draft. most others were only around round 20 when we were done. It doesnt give u a chance to weigh your options.

RichV · Post by **RichV** » Sun Mar 21, 2010 12:59 pm

Originally posted by Gekko:

quote:Originally posted by RichV:

The pace of our draft was sick. It started right from the begining. Rich - Nice seeing you again.

But watchout, some people on these boards are going to think you are making excuses now because you said the pace was "sick".

[/QUOTE]Hey Mark, no excuses. If he was there he'd know exactly what you're talking about. I'm a pretty laid back guy and I like a nice laid back draft pace. Sort of watch the draft unfold. There was no time for that yesterday. I wouldn't say I was put off by it, and it's certainly no excuse. But normally there's time to think through your next few picks based on who you take next. You know what I mean, thinking things through like "If I take this guy, then I can come back and go with A and B the next few rounds. Or, if I go a different route here,I can come back with so-and-so next round" There was no time for thinking things through like that. It was "what do I need most, who's available, who's falling to far, and pick." Move on.

Maybe it's just me. But that's how it went for me.

Thunder · Post by **Thunder** » Sun Mar 21, 2010 1:02 pm

Originally posted by Gekko:

quote:Originally posted by Kentucky Reign:

so, what does that get you? a post on the boards about how you missed out on pitchers? it means whatever you want it to mean. people making picks very quickly could lead itself to picks based on "panic". as always, you can believe what you want. [/QUOTE]you're right mark, you're trying to insight panic into a draft, but it sounds like you're the one that panicked when you missed a pick. i agree with Jack in the earlier post, you of all people shouldn't have worried or panicked with a pitcher run.

RichV · Post by **RichV** » Sun Mar 21, 2010 1:02 pm

Originally posted by bustouts:

Regardless of the run on starters, the pace itself can throw you off your gameplan. I was in a draft 2 years ago and we finished an hour before the next closest draft. most others were only around round 20 when we were done. It doesnt give u a chance to weigh your options. Well said. You said what I said in 1/4 the time

RichV · Post by **RichV** » Sun Mar 21, 2010 1:05 pm

He didn't panic. He sat back and said I'll wait one turn, because i don't want to jump here when I'm not ready. Trust me, I understand it completly. I was there, and on more than one occation I thought about taking an extra minute by letting a pick go. I probably should have in round 9 when I yelled out "Posada" with one second left