Originally posted by DOUGHBOYS:
quote:Originally posted by eddiejag:
quote:Originally posted by Gekko:
if you had 15 and failed to lock up Halladay, i think you may have missed out on a guy who could have literally won your league for you. while i'm not expecting the big K totals everyone else is, i am expecting premium wins, era and whip. I would rather pass on Halladay that early and gamble Greinke or King Felix make it to the 3 and 4 turn.In my Jersy League a team picking late started with,
Kemp
Tulo
Zobrist
Greinke
Now i would rather start with this than Halladay at 15.As Jeff Dobies would say in my humble opinion. [/QUOTE]Kemp and Tulo being available at 15 speaks more about the quality of the league than if Halladay on the team is a better choice. [/QUOTE]Actually he got Tulo at 19 but here is another picking 14.
David Wright
Crawford
Greinke
Mourneu
Can you really say that Halladay will be worth that much more than Greinke and Felix when you can get them 30 picks later.
First draft from the 15th spot
First draft from the 15th spot
EDWARD J GILLIS
First draft from the 15th spot
I had Halladay over all four of those players. I had the first and seventh picks in my two Main Events, so I didn't have to make the decision, Halladay was gone.
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First draft from the 15th spot
Pierre, CarGo, Halladay...Mark, get out of my head!
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Originally posted by DOUGHBOYS:
quote:Originally posted by eddiejag:
quote:Originally posted by Gekko:
if you had 15 and failed to lock up Halladay, i think you may have missed out on a guy who could have literally won your league for you. while i'm not expecting the big K totals everyone else is, i am expecting premium wins, era and whip. I would rather pass on Halladay that early and gamble Greinke or King Felix make it to the 3 and 4 turn.In my Jersy League a team picking late started with,
Kemp
Tulo
Zobrist
Greinke
Now i would rather start with this than Halladay at 15.As Jeff Dobies would say in my humble opinion. [/QUOTE]Kemp and Tulo being available at 15 speaks more about the quality of the league than if Halladay on the team is a better choice. [/QUOTE]I dont think you can judge the quality of the league by that start. Like I said I got:
Cabrera
Tulo
Sabathia (Greinke went two pick in front of me)
Ichiro (probably a mistake- Zobrist went on the very next pick)
Drafting in this league- Childs, Jules, kimo(although I think his daughter was drafting for him), Hardheads, Headhunter, Waz, Masters of the Game, Bama etc- so except for me (charity), the team ownership talent was there.
quote:Originally posted by eddiejag:
quote:Originally posted by Gekko:
if you had 15 and failed to lock up Halladay, i think you may have missed out on a guy who could have literally won your league for you. while i'm not expecting the big K totals everyone else is, i am expecting premium wins, era and whip. I would rather pass on Halladay that early and gamble Greinke or King Felix make it to the 3 and 4 turn.In my Jersy League a team picking late started with,
Kemp
Tulo
Zobrist
Greinke
Now i would rather start with this than Halladay at 15.As Jeff Dobies would say in my humble opinion. [/QUOTE]Kemp and Tulo being available at 15 speaks more about the quality of the league than if Halladay on the team is a better choice. [/QUOTE]I dont think you can judge the quality of the league by that start. Like I said I got:
Cabrera
Tulo
Sabathia (Greinke went two pick in front of me)
Ichiro (probably a mistake- Zobrist went on the very next pick)
Drafting in this league- Childs, Jules, kimo(although I think his daughter was drafting for him), Hardheads, Headhunter, Waz, Masters of the Game, Bama etc- so except for me (charity), the team ownership talent was there.
"I don't remmeber what I don't remember.”- Jerry Garcia
First draft from the 15th spot
Originally posted by Dub:
quote:Originally posted by DOUGHBOYS:
quote:Originally posted by eddiejag:
quote:Originally posted by Gekko:
if you had 15 and failed to lock up Halladay, i think you may have missed out on a guy who could have literally won your league for you. while i'm not expecting the big K totals everyone else is, i am expecting premium wins, era and whip. I would rather pass on Halladay that early and gamble Greinke or King Felix make it to the 3 and 4 turn.In my Jersy League a team picking late started with,
Kemp
Tulo
Zobrist
Greinke
Now i would rather start with this than Halladay at 15.As Jeff Dobies would say in my humble opinion. [/QUOTE]Kemp and Tulo being available at 15 speaks more about the quality of the league than if Halladay on the team is a better choice. [/QUOTE]I dont think you can judge the quality of the league by that start. Like I said I got:
Cabrera
Tulo
Sabathia (Greinke went two pick in front of me)
Ichiro (probably a mistake- Zobrist went on the very next pick)
Drafting in this league- Childs, Jules, kimo(although I think his daughter was drafting for him), Hardheads, Headhunter, Waz, Masters of the Game, Bama etc- so except for me (charity), the team ownership talent was there. [/QUOTE]This league was stacked. I was pretty happy with my team in this one.
My start from 12 was as follows...
SS Jimmy Rollins
OF Justin Upton
SP Zack Greinke
OF Nelson Cruz
In retrospect, I wouldn't pass on Tulo for Rollins, but at the time I wanted those steals and the 20-35 start from J-Roll did the trick.
BA was my biggest problem in this draft, but I hit my other numbers, and I like my pitching staff.
[ April 01, 2010, 08:29 AM: Message edited by: billywaz ]
quote:Originally posted by DOUGHBOYS:
quote:Originally posted by eddiejag:
quote:Originally posted by Gekko:
if you had 15 and failed to lock up Halladay, i think you may have missed out on a guy who could have literally won your league for you. while i'm not expecting the big K totals everyone else is, i am expecting premium wins, era and whip. I would rather pass on Halladay that early and gamble Greinke or King Felix make it to the 3 and 4 turn.In my Jersy League a team picking late started with,
Kemp
Tulo
Zobrist
Greinke
Now i would rather start with this than Halladay at 15.As Jeff Dobies would say in my humble opinion. [/QUOTE]Kemp and Tulo being available at 15 speaks more about the quality of the league than if Halladay on the team is a better choice. [/QUOTE]I dont think you can judge the quality of the league by that start. Like I said I got:
Cabrera
Tulo
Sabathia (Greinke went two pick in front of me)
Ichiro (probably a mistake- Zobrist went on the very next pick)
Drafting in this league- Childs, Jules, kimo(although I think his daughter was drafting for him), Hardheads, Headhunter, Waz, Masters of the Game, Bama etc- so except for me (charity), the team ownership talent was there. [/QUOTE]This league was stacked. I was pretty happy with my team in this one.
My start from 12 was as follows...
SS Jimmy Rollins
OF Justin Upton
SP Zack Greinke
OF Nelson Cruz
In retrospect, I wouldn't pass on Tulo for Rollins, but at the time I wanted those steals and the 20-35 start from J-Roll did the trick.
BA was my biggest problem in this draft, but I hit my other numbers, and I like my pitching staff.
[ April 01, 2010, 08:29 AM: Message edited by: billywaz ]
First draft from the 15th spot
I drafted Ellsbury at 16 and was fully aware of the SB guys later in the draft...actually have Raj on the same roster. The issue with Pierre (or Bourne or Borbon or Raj or Morgan, etc.) is that there's no guarantee you get them later from the 15 spot unless you reach for them (like Pierre at 7.15 or 8.1)...and I'd suggest Ellsbury has less SB risk than any of the other speed guys you may have to reach for. Ellsbury is basically guaranteed at 2.1 and allows much more flexibility later in the draft. Let's not forget the context of the original post and drafting specifically from the 15 spot.
First draft from the 15th spot
Originally posted by DOUGHBOYS:
Pierre for me too.
Why Ellsbury or Bourn as high as the second and fourth rounds when Pierre will do basically the same job, at a discount, in the ninth round.
Just not that much difference in the players except round number.
Borbon, R Davis, and N Morgan all have the Missouri/Missouri factor, Pierre is proven. When was the last time Pierre had more than 400 at bats? 2007 When was the last time Pierre hit over 3 HR's? never We are not exactly comparing apples to apples here. Ellsbury is a lock in most people's eyes to get the 55-60 SB's this year. Pierre I think is just as big a gamble as any other in the later rounds. My guess is he doesn't get 400 at bats again this year. Ozzie is one of the most unpredictable managers, nothing would surprise me with him.
Either way, to each his own on their strategy. I just don't see a flaw with locking up some SB's from that spot in the draft.
Pierre for me too.
Why Ellsbury or Bourn as high as the second and fourth rounds when Pierre will do basically the same job, at a discount, in the ninth round.
Just not that much difference in the players except round number.
Borbon, R Davis, and N Morgan all have the Missouri/Missouri factor, Pierre is proven. When was the last time Pierre had more than 400 at bats? 2007 When was the last time Pierre hit over 3 HR's? never We are not exactly comparing apples to apples here. Ellsbury is a lock in most people's eyes to get the 55-60 SB's this year. Pierre I think is just as big a gamble as any other in the later rounds. My guess is he doesn't get 400 at bats again this year. Ozzie is one of the most unpredictable managers, nothing would surprise me with him.
Either way, to each his own on their strategy. I just don't see a flaw with locking up some SB's from that spot in the draft.
First draft from the 15th spot
Originally posted by DOUGHBOYS:
Kemp and Tulo being available at 15 speaks more about the quality of the league than if Halladay on the team is a better choice.
Kemp and Tulo being available at 15 speaks more about the quality of the league than if Halladay on the team is a better choice.
First draft from the 15th spot
Originally posted by Bobby D:
Either way, to each his own on their strategy. I just don't see a flaw with locking up some SB's from that spot in the draft. again, not a bad pick. just felt acquiring SB could be had at a discount this year.
Either way, to each his own on their strategy. I just don't see a flaw with locking up some SB's from that spot in the draft. again, not a bad pick. just felt acquiring SB could be had at a discount this year.
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I have to agree with the majority here. Ellsbury is a nice pick for a 2nd rounder, but I think more of a bottom 1/3 of the 2nd round. Being able to get a Pierre, Borbon, Davis etc in much later rounds seems like a better choice. I was thrilled when J Upton fell to me in the 2.6. I had #10 overall. The odds are stacked againt you on having Tulo fall to you @ #15 and would definitely go with any of the top 1b if they get to you. If not J-Roll should be there. Consider that after the top 5 SS it's a free fall. I hope this brief look can help you out.
Here's how my draft went.
My Team
1.10 Howard
2.6 J Upton
3.10 Jeter
4.6 Bay
5.10 J Johnson
6.6 Gallardo
1.11 Mauer
2.5 V Mart
3.11 A Ramirez
4.5 Hill
5.11 D Lee
6.5 Beckett
1.12 Teixeria
2.4 Lincecum
3.12 Ichrio
4.4 Roberts
5.12 Vazquez
6.4 Hanson
1.13 Cabera
2.3 Holiday
3.13 Either
4.3 Cano
5.13 Cain
6.3 Hammels
1.14 Tulo
2.2 Crawford
3.14 McCann
4.2 Reyes
5.14 Wieters
6.2 Berkman
1.15 Kinsler
2.1 Rollins
3.15 Verlander
4.1 Cliff Lee
5.15 Choo
6.1 Butler
As with all drafts I really like some of these guys picks and dislike a few. Mainly 2 catchers with your 1st 2 picks or first of 5 picks.
Here's how my draft went.
My Team
1.10 Howard
2.6 J Upton
3.10 Jeter
4.6 Bay
5.10 J Johnson
6.6 Gallardo
1.11 Mauer
2.5 V Mart
3.11 A Ramirez
4.5 Hill
5.11 D Lee
6.5 Beckett
1.12 Teixeria
2.4 Lincecum
3.12 Ichrio
4.4 Roberts
5.12 Vazquez
6.4 Hanson
1.13 Cabera
2.3 Holiday
3.13 Either
4.3 Cano
5.13 Cain
6.3 Hammels
1.14 Tulo
2.2 Crawford
3.14 McCann
4.2 Reyes
5.14 Wieters
6.2 Berkman
1.15 Kinsler
2.1 Rollins
3.15 Verlander
4.1 Cliff Lee
5.15 Choo
6.1 Butler
As with all drafts I really like some of these guys picks and dislike a few. Mainly 2 catchers with your 1st 2 picks or first of 5 picks.
Chase Utley for M.V.P & Roy Halladay for CY Young!
First draft from the 15th spot
Originally posted by Bobby D:
quote:Originally posted by DOUGHBOYS:
Pierre for me too.
Why Ellsbury or Bourn as high as the second and fourth rounds when Pierre will do basically the same job, at a discount, in the ninth round.
Just not that much difference in the players except round number.
Borbon, R Davis, and N Morgan all have the Missouri/Missouri factor, Pierre is proven. When was the last time Pierre had more than 400 at bats? 2007 When was the last time Pierre hit over 3 HR's? never We are not exactly comparing apples to apples here. Ellsbury is a lock in most people's eyes to get the 55-60 SB's this year. Pierre I think is just as big a gamble as any other in the later rounds. My guess is he doesn't get 400 at bats again this year. Ozzie is one of the most unpredictable managers, nothing would surprise me with him.
Either way, to each his own on their strategy. I just don't see a flaw with locking up some SB's from that spot in the draft. [/QUOTE]Single digit home runs vs single digit home runs
Speed guys at the top of the lineup
Them's both apples
quote:Originally posted by DOUGHBOYS:
Pierre for me too.
Why Ellsbury or Bourn as high as the second and fourth rounds when Pierre will do basically the same job, at a discount, in the ninth round.
Just not that much difference in the players except round number.
Borbon, R Davis, and N Morgan all have the Missouri/Missouri factor, Pierre is proven. When was the last time Pierre had more than 400 at bats? 2007 When was the last time Pierre hit over 3 HR's? never We are not exactly comparing apples to apples here. Ellsbury is a lock in most people's eyes to get the 55-60 SB's this year. Pierre I think is just as big a gamble as any other in the later rounds. My guess is he doesn't get 400 at bats again this year. Ozzie is one of the most unpredictable managers, nothing would surprise me with him.
Either way, to each his own on their strategy. I just don't see a flaw with locking up some SB's from that spot in the draft. [/QUOTE]Single digit home runs vs single digit home runs
Speed guys at the top of the lineup
Them's both apples
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one's a macintosh and one's a fuji though.
comparing ells to pierre? come on dough!!
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First draft from the 15th spot
Originally posted by billywaz:
quote:Originally posted by Dub:
quote:Originally posted by DOUGHBOYS:
quote:Originally posted by eddiejag:
quote:Originally posted by Gekko:
if you had 15 and failed to lock up Halladay, i think you may have missed out on a guy who could have literally won your league for you. while i'm not expecting the big K totals everyone else is, i am expecting premium wins, era and whip. I would rather pass on Halladay that early and gamble Greinke or King Felix make it to the 3 and 4 turn.In my Jersy League a team picking late started with,
Kemp
Tulo
Zobrist
Greinke
Now i would rather start with this than Halladay at 15.As Jeff Dobies would say in my humble opinion. [/QUOTE]Kemp and Tulo being available at 15 speaks more about the quality of the league than if Halladay on the team is a better choice. [/QUOTE]I dont think you can judge the quality of the league by that start. Like I said I got:
Cabrera
Tulo
Sabathia (Greinke went two pick in front of me)
Ichiro (probably a mistake- Zobrist went on the very next pick)
Drafting in this league- Childs, Jules, kimo(although I think his daughter was drafting for him), Hardheads, Headhunter, Waz, Masters of the Game, Bama etc- so except for me (charity), the team ownership talent was there. [/QUOTE]This league was stacked. I was pretty happy with my team in this one.
My start from 12 was as follows...
SS Jimmy Rollins
OF Justin Upton
SP Zack Greinke
OF Nelson Cruz
In retrospect, I wouldn't pass on Tulo for Rollins, but at the time I wanted those steals and the 20-35 start from J-Roll did the trick.
BA was my biggest problem in this draft, but I hit my other numbers, and I like my pitching staff. [/QUOTE]Very similar start from 12
Longoria, Rollins, Kendry, Cruz
I coveted Upton big time and was taking him in the first if the big six, Tex, and Longoria were all gone. I had Longoria 7th on my board and was happy to take him. I thought 50/50 on j upton in the 2nd round and he went one pick ahead of me. I am a big believer in Kendry and was happy to take him at 3:12 even if ADP would not support it. My goal in the first 4 picks is actually 125/60 this year with so many quality judies later. Not sure I got to the power numbers as I have it at 121 in my own subjective rankings. I did get to 64 on steals though. I will be rooting for your team.
quote:Originally posted by Dub:
quote:Originally posted by DOUGHBOYS:
quote:Originally posted by eddiejag:
quote:Originally posted by Gekko:
if you had 15 and failed to lock up Halladay, i think you may have missed out on a guy who could have literally won your league for you. while i'm not expecting the big K totals everyone else is, i am expecting premium wins, era and whip. I would rather pass on Halladay that early and gamble Greinke or King Felix make it to the 3 and 4 turn.In my Jersy League a team picking late started with,
Kemp
Tulo
Zobrist
Greinke
Now i would rather start with this than Halladay at 15.As Jeff Dobies would say in my humble opinion. [/QUOTE]Kemp and Tulo being available at 15 speaks more about the quality of the league than if Halladay on the team is a better choice. [/QUOTE]I dont think you can judge the quality of the league by that start. Like I said I got:
Cabrera
Tulo
Sabathia (Greinke went two pick in front of me)
Ichiro (probably a mistake- Zobrist went on the very next pick)
Drafting in this league- Childs, Jules, kimo(although I think his daughter was drafting for him), Hardheads, Headhunter, Waz, Masters of the Game, Bama etc- so except for me (charity), the team ownership talent was there. [/QUOTE]This league was stacked. I was pretty happy with my team in this one.
My start from 12 was as follows...
SS Jimmy Rollins
OF Justin Upton
SP Zack Greinke
OF Nelson Cruz
In retrospect, I wouldn't pass on Tulo for Rollins, but at the time I wanted those steals and the 20-35 start from J-Roll did the trick.
BA was my biggest problem in this draft, but I hit my other numbers, and I like my pitching staff. [/QUOTE]Very similar start from 12
Longoria, Rollins, Kendry, Cruz
I coveted Upton big time and was taking him in the first if the big six, Tex, and Longoria were all gone. I had Longoria 7th on my board and was happy to take him. I thought 50/50 on j upton in the 2nd round and he went one pick ahead of me. I am a big believer in Kendry and was happy to take him at 3:12 even if ADP would not support it. My goal in the first 4 picks is actually 125/60 this year with so many quality judies later. Not sure I got to the power numbers as I have it at 121 in my own subjective rankings. I did get to 64 on steals though. I will be rooting for your team.
First draft from the 15th spot
Originally posted by NorCalAtlFan:
one's a macintosh and one's a fuji though.
comparing ells to pierre? come on dough!! The Mac comes at $3 a pound
The Fuji comes at $1 a pound
I'm a cheap-ass
one's a macintosh and one's a fuji though.
comparing ells to pierre? come on dough!!
The Mac comes at $3 a poundThe Fuji comes at $1 a pound
I'm a cheap-ass
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Originally posted by Chest Rockwell:
Not sure I got to the power numbers as I have it at 121 in my own subjective rankings. I did get to 64 on steals though. I will be rooting for your team. i count 115/55, but that's just me
Not sure I got to the power numbers as I have it at 121 in my own subjective rankings. I did get to 64 on steals though. I will be rooting for your team. i count 115/55, but that's just me
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Originally posted by Gekko:
quote:Originally posted by Chest Rockwell:
Not sure I got to the power numbers as I have it at 121 in my own subjective rankings. I did get to 64 on steals though. I will be rooting for your team. i count 115/55, but that's just me [/QUOTE]Would that be the end of the world? I am assuming since I do not see any of the 4 on your roster that you are not so bullish on any of them. So if the bear opinion is that then I am ok with it. Now if Longoria does not make the leap in BA I predict or Morales hits below 290 avg could start to be an issue. I know the stats say Rollins was unlucky last year, but I will rejoice at anything above 270.
quote:Originally posted by Chest Rockwell:
Not sure I got to the power numbers as I have it at 121 in my own subjective rankings. I did get to 64 on steals though. I will be rooting for your team. i count 115/55, but that's just me [/QUOTE]Would that be the end of the world? I am assuming since I do not see any of the 4 on your roster that you are not so bullish on any of them. So if the bear opinion is that then I am ok with it. Now if Longoria does not make the leap in BA I predict or Morales hits below 290 avg could start to be an issue. I know the stats say Rollins was unlucky last year, but I will rejoice at anything above 270.
First draft from the 15th spot
Originally posted by JeffSeilhamer:
I have to agree with the majority here. Ellsbury is a nice pick for a 2nd rounder, but I think more of a bottom 1/3 of the 2nd round. Being able to get a Pierre, Borbon, Davis etc in much later rounds seems like a better choice. I was thrilled when J Upton fell to me in the 2.6. I had #10 overall. The odds are stacked againt you on having Tulo fall to you @ #15 and would definitely go with any of the top 1b if they get to you. If not J-Roll should be there. Consider that after the top 5 SS it's a free fall. I hope this brief look can help you out.
Here's how my draft went.
My Team
1.10 Howard
2.6 J Upton
3.10 Jeter
4.6 Bay
5.10 J Johnson
6.6 Gallardo
1.11 Mauer
2.5 V Mart
3.11 A Ramirez
4.5 Hill
5.11 D Lee
6.5 Beckett
1.12 Teixeria
2.4 Lincecum
3.12 Ichrio
4.4 Roberts
5.12 Vazquez
6.4 Hanson
1.13 Cabera
2.3 Holiday
3.13 Either
4.3 Cano
5.13 Cain
6.3 Hammels
1.14 Tulo
2.2 Crawford
3.14 McCann
4.2 Reyes
5.14 Wieters
6.2 Berkman
1.15 Kinsler
2.1 Rollins
3.15 Verlander
4.1 Cliff Lee
5.15 Choo
6.1 Butler
As with all drafts I really like some of these guys picks and dislike a few. Mainly 2 catchers with your 1st 2 picks or first of 5 picks. Love your start,you have power and speed and two stud pitchers.I targeted Josh Johnson,Gallarado,and Nolasco in every league.
Greinke was another i did get a few times and got him in both my nfbc auction teams for 30.
I have to agree with the majority here. Ellsbury is a nice pick for a 2nd rounder, but I think more of a bottom 1/3 of the 2nd round. Being able to get a Pierre, Borbon, Davis etc in much later rounds seems like a better choice. I was thrilled when J Upton fell to me in the 2.6. I had #10 overall. The odds are stacked againt you on having Tulo fall to you @ #15 and would definitely go with any of the top 1b if they get to you. If not J-Roll should be there. Consider that after the top 5 SS it's a free fall. I hope this brief look can help you out.
Here's how my draft went.
My Team
1.10 Howard
2.6 J Upton
3.10 Jeter
4.6 Bay
5.10 J Johnson
6.6 Gallardo
1.11 Mauer
2.5 V Mart
3.11 A Ramirez
4.5 Hill
5.11 D Lee
6.5 Beckett
1.12 Teixeria
2.4 Lincecum
3.12 Ichrio
4.4 Roberts
5.12 Vazquez
6.4 Hanson
1.13 Cabera
2.3 Holiday
3.13 Either
4.3 Cano
5.13 Cain
6.3 Hammels
1.14 Tulo
2.2 Crawford
3.14 McCann
4.2 Reyes
5.14 Wieters
6.2 Berkman
1.15 Kinsler
2.1 Rollins
3.15 Verlander
4.1 Cliff Lee
5.15 Choo
6.1 Butler
As with all drafts I really like some of these guys picks and dislike a few. Mainly 2 catchers with your 1st 2 picks or first of 5 picks. Love your start,you have power and speed and two stud pitchers.I targeted Josh Johnson,Gallarado,and Nolasco in every league.
Greinke was another i did get a few times and got him in both my nfbc auction teams for 30.
EDWARD J GILLIS
First draft from the 15th spot
Originally posted by Chest Rockwell:
quote:Originally posted by billywaz:
quote:Originally posted by Dub:
quote:Originally posted by DOUGHBOYS:
quote:Originally posted by eddiejag:
quote:Originally posted by Gekko:
if you had 15 and failed to lock up Halladay, i think you may have missed out on a guy who could have literally won your league for you. while i'm not expecting the big K totals everyone else is, i am expecting premium wins, era and whip. I would rather pass on Halladay that early and gamble Greinke or King Felix make it to the 3 and 4 turn.In my Jersy League a team picking late started with,
Kemp
Tulo
Zobrist
Greinke
Now i would rather start with this than Halladay at 15.As Jeff Dobies would say in my humble opinion. [/QUOTE]Kemp and Tulo being available at 15 speaks more about the quality of the league than if Halladay on the team is a better choice. [/QUOTE]I dont think you can judge the quality of the league by that start. Like I said I got:
Cabrera
Tulo
Sabathia (Greinke went two pick in front of me)
Ichiro (probably a mistake- Zobrist went on the very next pick)
Drafting in this league- Childs, Jules, kimo(although I think his daughter was drafting for him), Hardheads, Headhunter, Waz, Masters of the Game, Bama etc- so except for me (charity), the team ownership talent was there. [/QUOTE]This league was stacked. I was pretty happy with my team in this one.
My start from 12 was as follows...
SS Jimmy Rollins
OF Justin Upton
SP Zack Greinke
OF Nelson Cruz
In retrospect, I wouldn't pass on Tulo for Rollins, but at the time I wanted those steals and the 20-35 start from J-Roll did the trick.
BA was my biggest problem in this draft, but I hit my other numbers, and I like my pitching staff. [/QUOTE]Very similar start from 12
Longoria, Rollins, Kendry, Cruz
I coveted Upton big time and was taking him in the first if the big six, Tex, and Longoria were all gone. I had Longoria 7th on my board and was happy to take him. I thought 50/50 on j upton in the 2nd round and he went one pick ahead of me. I am a big believer in Kendry and was happy to take him at 3:12 even if ADP would not support it. My goal in the first 4 picks is actually 125/60 this year with so many quality judies later. Not sure I got to the power numbers as I have it at 121 in my own subjective rankings. I did get to 64 on steals though. I will be rooting for your team. [/QUOTE]Chest i would be very happy with that start.I took Longoria at 7 in one draft and Morales slid to me in the 4th round in the same draft.Look's like Upton slid to you making him a value pick there. good luck
quote:Originally posted by billywaz:
quote:Originally posted by Dub:
quote:Originally posted by DOUGHBOYS:
quote:Originally posted by eddiejag:
quote:Originally posted by Gekko:
if you had 15 and failed to lock up Halladay, i think you may have missed out on a guy who could have literally won your league for you. while i'm not expecting the big K totals everyone else is, i am expecting premium wins, era and whip. I would rather pass on Halladay that early and gamble Greinke or King Felix make it to the 3 and 4 turn.In my Jersy League a team picking late started with,
Kemp
Tulo
Zobrist
Greinke
Now i would rather start with this than Halladay at 15.As Jeff Dobies would say in my humble opinion. [/QUOTE]Kemp and Tulo being available at 15 speaks more about the quality of the league than if Halladay on the team is a better choice. [/QUOTE]I dont think you can judge the quality of the league by that start. Like I said I got:
Cabrera
Tulo
Sabathia (Greinke went two pick in front of me)
Ichiro (probably a mistake- Zobrist went on the very next pick)
Drafting in this league- Childs, Jules, kimo(although I think his daughter was drafting for him), Hardheads, Headhunter, Waz, Masters of the Game, Bama etc- so except for me (charity), the team ownership talent was there. [/QUOTE]This league was stacked. I was pretty happy with my team in this one.
My start from 12 was as follows...
SS Jimmy Rollins
OF Justin Upton
SP Zack Greinke
OF Nelson Cruz
In retrospect, I wouldn't pass on Tulo for Rollins, but at the time I wanted those steals and the 20-35 start from J-Roll did the trick.
BA was my biggest problem in this draft, but I hit my other numbers, and I like my pitching staff. [/QUOTE]Very similar start from 12
Longoria, Rollins, Kendry, Cruz
I coveted Upton big time and was taking him in the first if the big six, Tex, and Longoria were all gone. I had Longoria 7th on my board and was happy to take him. I thought 50/50 on j upton in the 2nd round and he went one pick ahead of me. I am a big believer in Kendry and was happy to take him at 3:12 even if ADP would not support it. My goal in the first 4 picks is actually 125/60 this year with so many quality judies later. Not sure I got to the power numbers as I have it at 121 in my own subjective rankings. I did get to 64 on steals though. I will be rooting for your team. [/QUOTE]Chest i would be very happy with that start.I took Longoria at 7 in one draft and Morales slid to me in the 4th round in the same draft.Look's like Upton slid to you making him a value pick there. good luck
EDWARD J GILLIS
First draft from the 15th spot
Originally posted by Chest Rockwell:
Longoria, Rollins, Kendry, Cruz
# of my 14 teams these guys are on...
Longoria 1
Rollins 0
Kendry 0
Cruz 0
it's not that i didn't want these guys. i just thought there were better values out there when these guys usually went
Longoria, Rollins, Kendry, Cruz
# of my 14 teams these guys are on...
Longoria 1
Rollins 0
Kendry 0
Cruz 0
it's not that i didn't want these guys. i just thought there were better values out there when these guys usually went
First draft from the 15th spot
Originally posted by Gekko:
quote:Originally posted by Chest Rockwell:
Longoria, Rollins, Kendry, Cruz
# of my 14 teams these guys are onthese guy...
Longoria 1
Rollins 0
Kendry 0
Cruz 0
it's not that i didn't want these guys. i just thought there were better values out there when s usually went [/QUOTE]Chest i meant Rollins 2nd round pick 7.
quote:Originally posted by Chest Rockwell:
Longoria, Rollins, Kendry, Cruz
# of my 14 teams these guys are onthese guy...
Longoria 1
Rollins 0
Kendry 0
Cruz 0
it's not that i didn't want these guys. i just thought there were better values out there when s usually went [/QUOTE]Chest i meant Rollins 2nd round pick 7.
EDWARD J GILLIS
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First draft from the 15th spot
Originally posted by Gekko:
quote:Originally posted by Chest Rockwell:
Longoria, Rollins, Kendry, Cruz
# of my 14 teams these guys are on...
Longoria 1
Rollins 0
Kendry 0
Cruz 0
it's not that i didn't want these guys. i just thought there were better values out there when these guys usually went [/QUOTE]I do think I got good value on Longoria and Cruz. I am not of the illusion that Rollins or Morales was good value. Just guys I like. Thanks for the kind words Eddie. This is the time of the year that I replay every mistake I made. Glad to hear a good player liked the start.
quote:Originally posted by Chest Rockwell:
Longoria, Rollins, Kendry, Cruz
# of my 14 teams these guys are on...
Longoria 1
Rollins 0
Kendry 0
Cruz 0
it's not that i didn't want these guys. i just thought there were better values out there when these guys usually went [/QUOTE]I do think I got good value on Longoria and Cruz. I am not of the illusion that Rollins or Morales was good value. Just guys I like. Thanks for the kind words Eddie. This is the time of the year that I replay every mistake I made. Glad to hear a good player liked the start.
First draft from the 15th spot
Originally posted by Chest Rockwell:
quote:Originally posted by Gekko:
quote:Originally posted by Chest Rockwell:
Longoria, Rollins, Kendry, Cruz
# of my 14 teams these guys are on...
Longoria 1
Rollins 0
Kendry 0
Cruz 0
it's not that i didn't want these guys. i just thought there were better values out there when these guys usually went [/QUOTE]I do think I got good value on Longoria and Cruz. I am not of the illusion that Rollins or Morales was good value. Just guys I like. Thanks for the kind words Eddie. This is the time of the year that I replay every mistake I made. Glad to hear a good player liked the start. [/QUOTE]it certainly seems like a good start. i just can't trust cruz. he's kinda like wandy. he might do good, but i'll let someone else try and beat me with him
quote:Originally posted by Gekko:
quote:Originally posted by Chest Rockwell:
Longoria, Rollins, Kendry, Cruz
# of my 14 teams these guys are on...
Longoria 1
Rollins 0
Kendry 0
Cruz 0
it's not that i didn't want these guys. i just thought there were better values out there when these guys usually went [/QUOTE]I do think I got good value on Longoria and Cruz. I am not of the illusion that Rollins or Morales was good value. Just guys I like. Thanks for the kind words Eddie. This is the time of the year that I replay every mistake I made. Glad to hear a good player liked the start. [/QUOTE]it certainly seems like a good start. i just can't trust cruz. he's kinda like wandy. he might do good, but i'll let someone else try and beat me with him
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Chest Rockwell
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First draft from the 15th spot
Originally posted by Gekko:
quote:Originally posted by Chest Rockwell:
quote:Originally posted by Gekko:
quote:Originally posted by Chest Rockwell:
Longoria, Rollins, Kendry, Cruz
# of my 14 teams these guys are on...
Longoria 1
Rollins 0
Kendry 0
Cruz 0
it's not that i didn't want these guys. i just thought there were better values out there when these guys usually went [/QUOTE]I do think I got good value on Longoria and Cruz. I am not of the illusion that Rollins or Morales was good value. Just guys I like. Thanks for the kind words Eddie. This is the time of the year that I replay every mistake I made. Glad to hear a good player liked the start. [/QUOTE]it certainly seems like a good start. i just can't trust cruz. he's kinda like wandy. he might do good, but i'll let someone else try and beat me with him [/QUOTE]He really climbed up my board from a couple of spring training games. I watch a ton of baseball and usually know a lot less about guys who I did not have a lot of guys on their team the year before. This is the case with Cruz. I had no idea he had such good opposite field power. I am a sucker for guys with good power to the opp field. I think homerun numbers are more sustainable for guys who use the entire field.
quote:Originally posted by Chest Rockwell:
quote:Originally posted by Gekko:
quote:Originally posted by Chest Rockwell:
Longoria, Rollins, Kendry, Cruz
# of my 14 teams these guys are on...
Longoria 1
Rollins 0
Kendry 0
Cruz 0
it's not that i didn't want these guys. i just thought there were better values out there when these guys usually went [/QUOTE]I do think I got good value on Longoria and Cruz. I am not of the illusion that Rollins or Morales was good value. Just guys I like. Thanks for the kind words Eddie. This is the time of the year that I replay every mistake I made. Glad to hear a good player liked the start. [/QUOTE]it certainly seems like a good start. i just can't trust cruz. he's kinda like wandy. he might do good, but i'll let someone else try and beat me with him [/QUOTE]He really climbed up my board from a couple of spring training games. I watch a ton of baseball and usually know a lot less about guys who I did not have a lot of guys on their team the year before. This is the case with Cruz. I had no idea he had such good opposite field power. I am a sucker for guys with good power to the opp field. I think homerun numbers are more sustainable for guys who use the entire field.
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First draft from the 15th spot
Originally posted by Gekko:
quote:Originally posted by Chest Rockwell:
Longoria, Rollins, Kendry, Cruz
# of my 14 teams these guys are on...
Longoria 1
Rollins 0
Kendry 0
Cruz 0
it's not that i didn't want these guys. i just thought there were better values out there when these guys usually went [/QUOTE]Cruz went round 3. What's a potentially better value for a guy expected to do 90/40/90/25 sb in the later rounds?
quote:Originally posted by Chest Rockwell:
Longoria, Rollins, Kendry, Cruz
# of my 14 teams these guys are on...
Longoria 1
Rollins 0
Kendry 0
Cruz 0
it's not that i didn't want these guys. i just thought there were better values out there when these guys usually went [/QUOTE]Cruz went round 3. What's a potentially better value for a guy expected to do 90/40/90/25 sb in the later rounds?
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First draft from the 15th spot
Originally posted by Chest Rockwell:
He really climbed up my board from a couple of spring training games. I watch a ton of baseball and usually know a lot less about guys who I did not have a lot of guys on their team the year before. This is the case with Cruz. I had no idea he had such good opposite field power. I am a sucker for guys with good power to the opp field. I think homerun numbers are more sustainable for guys who use the entire field. the guy got benched last year though. and i don't like to count on much speed from old lumberjacks either.
i do know some sharks love this guy. again, seems like a good player, just not my kind of player
He really climbed up my board from a couple of spring training games. I watch a ton of baseball and usually know a lot less about guys who I did not have a lot of guys on their team the year before. This is the case with Cruz. I had no idea he had such good opposite field power. I am a sucker for guys with good power to the opp field. I think homerun numbers are more sustainable for guys who use the entire field. the guy got benched last year though. and i don't like to count on much speed from old lumberjacks either.
i do know some sharks love this guy. again, seems like a good player, just not my kind of player