Chad Qualls Sucks

Glenneration X · Post by **Glenneration X** » Thu Apr 22, 2010 1:44 am

Is it me.... or are more closers killing people this year than in any recent year?

It seems to me that every other day a closer is either getting hurt, losing his job, or getting rocked.

I should have realized that closers would be my downfall this year when Kerry Wood was announced out for six weeks five minutes after I drafted him in the first weekend Main Event.

Oh to go back in time & draft Mariano for everyone of my teams.....

Glenn

Dub · Post by **Dub** » Thu Apr 22, 2010 2:20 am

Originally posted by Glenneration X:

I should have realized that closers would be my downfall this year when Kerry Wood was announced out for six weeks five minutes after I drafted him in the first weekend Main Event.

Glenn No Wood probably 'saved' your ERA and Whip

I drafted KRod, Fuentes and Morales for my on line team. 3 combined saves and Morales has them all.

[ April 22, 2010, 08:32 AM: Message edited by: Dub ]

bustouts · Post by **bustouts** » Thu Apr 22, 2010 2:26 am

how would u like to have francisco and gonzalez in the same league. both lost their jobs in week 1!!

Scott Boras · Post by **Scott Boras** » Thu Apr 22, 2010 2:29 am

Glenn, the good news is Gutierrez has sucked lately too. Assuming Qualls isn't injured (fingers crossed), he should bounce back. One point of interest is that he entered in a non-save situation. It's bizarre how there is some historical evidence that relievers and closers have very different stats when in closing situations and when not. He did throw 7 of 10 pitches for strikes. Didn't see the game so don't know how his velocity held up or what other factors were involved.

Dub · Post by **Dub** » Thu Apr 22, 2010 2:30 am

Originally posted by bustouts:

how would u like to have francisco and gonzalez in the same league. both lost their jobs in week 1!! The Great Mariano aside- this is why we are supposed to take closers late. (damm that overall).

Dirt Dogs · Post by **Dirt Dogs** » Thu Apr 22, 2010 2:35 am

Wasnt a save situation but it was a tie game. I consider that the equilivent of a save situation. Same adrenaline and they know they can get a win with a good inning. I expect qualls to bounce back.

Lets get rid of saves and SB as categories. Our teams will be stacked HR hitters and fire ball starters

Hells Satans · Post by **Hells Satans** » Thu Apr 22, 2010 2:38 am

Originally posted by Dirt Dogs:

Wasnt a save situation but it was a tie game. I consider that the equilivent of a save situation. Same adrenaline and they know they can get a win with a good inning. I expect qualls to bounce back.

Lets get rid of saves and SB as categories. Our teams will be stacked HR hitters and fire ball starters I vote for the 8 real categories and a 9th category that combines SB and saves, with each save being worth 2x a SB.

DOUGHBOYS · Post by **DOUGHBOYS** » Thu Apr 22, 2010 2:39 am

Originally posted by Scott Boras:

It's bizarre how there is some historical evidence that relievers and closers have very different stats when in closing situations and when not.Managers just don't get this.

To closers, the difference is like driving at Indy and on I-70.

Greg Ambrosius · Post by **Greg Ambrosius** » Thu Apr 22, 2010 2:50 am

Originally posted by Hells Satans:

quote:Originally posted by Dirt Dogs:

Wasnt a save situation but it was a tie game. I consider that the equilivent of a save situation. Same adrenaline and they know they can get a win with a good inning. I expect qualls to bounce back.

Lets get rid of saves and SB as categories. Our teams will be stacked HR hitters and fire ball starters I vote for the 8 real categories and a 9th category that combines SB and saves, with each save being worth 2x a SB. [/QUOTE]Stolen bases and saves were among the original 8 categories. Runs and strikeouts were added to make it 5x5. Your ninth category would make saves even more valuable than they are now.

Dub · Post by **Dub** » Thu Apr 22, 2010 2:59 am

Originally posted by Greg Ambrosius:

Stolen bases and saves were among the original 8 categories. Runs and strikeouts were added to make it 5x5. Your ninth category would make saves even more valuable than they are now.

Its amazing how are forefather could have left out Runs the most basic element in baseball

BigHurt · Post by **BigHurt** » Thu Apr 22, 2010 3:25 am

Originally posted by bustouts:

how would u like to have francisco and gonzalez in the same league. both lost their jobs in week 1!! I don't like it one bit.

Frozen Tundra · Post by **Frozen Tundra** » Thu Apr 22, 2010 4:22 am

Originally posted by Glenneration X:

Is it me.... or are more closers killing people this year than in any recent year?

It seems to me that every other day a closer is either getting hurt, losing his job, or getting rocked.

I should have realized that closers would be my downfall this year when Kerry Wood was announced out for six weeks five minutes after I drafted him in the first weekend Main Event.

Oh to go back in time & draft Mariano for everyone of my teams.....

Glenn Glenn,

The glass half-full perspective would be that Rasmus did most of the damage.

And that Lindstrom pick is working out ok for you. I didn't think he would be capable of closing games.

Too early to speculate about Q losing his job although he showed signs of trouble last year as well. At least he seems to have a long leash as there is no one to step into that role right now.

Hells Satans · Post by **Hells Satans** » Thu Apr 22, 2010 5:37 am

Unfortunately, I was a Quallis buyer

Fortunately, I didnt buy into the Aaron-Harang-comeback-hype. He's cooked.

Oaktown · Post by **Oaktown** » Thu Apr 22, 2010 7:11 am

I despise Chad Qualls.

Glenneration X · Post by **Glenneration X** » Thu Apr 22, 2010 9:13 am

New scenerio.....

You're down 16-0, ninth inning of a lost cause.

Do you throw in your worst mop-up man?

No, let's bring our closer into a situation where almost all closers produce stellar numbers :rolleyes: and let's watch him give up 6 baserunners & 4 runs in an inning destroying fantasy ERA's & whip's across the land.

Imagine being a Main Event league Dotel owner right now....

Oh wait, I am one.

I freakin' hate closers.

Glenn

Hells Satans · Post by **Hells Satans** » Thu Apr 22, 2010 9:14 am

You beat me to the post. At least two of the runs were unearned.

Dirt Dogs · Post by **Dirt Dogs** » Thu Apr 22, 2010 9:16 am

only 2ER though

E · Post by E » Thu Apr 22, 2010 11:32 am

at what point is he put on the DL with an 'injury'?

Edwards Kings · Post by **Edwards Kings** » Thu Apr 22, 2010 12:00 pm

Originally posted by Greg Ambrosius:

quote:Originally posted by Hells Satans:

quote:Originally posted by Dirt Dogs:

Wasnt a save situation but it was a tie game. I consider that the equilivent of a save situation. Same adrenaline and they know they can get a win with a good inning. I expect qualls to bounce back.

Lets get rid of saves and SB as categories. Our teams will be stacked HR hitters and fire ball starters I vote for the 8 real categories and a 9th category that combines SB and saves, with each save being worth 2x a SB. [/QUOTE]Stolen bases and saves were among the original 8 categories. Runs and strikeouts were added to make it 5x5. Your ninth category would make saves even more valuable than they are now.

[/QUOTE]Wasn't "Runs Produced" one of the original categories (R+RBI-HR)? We used to use that (and I hated it) in my local leagues way back in the '80's.

DOUGHBOYS · Post by **DOUGHBOYS** » Thu Apr 22, 2010 12:15 pm

Originally posted by Edwards Kings:

quote:Originally posted by Greg Ambrosius:

quote:Originally posted by Hells Satans:

quote:Originally posted by Dirt Dogs:

Wasnt a save situation but it was a tie game. I consider that the equilivent of a save situation. Same adrenaline and they know they can get a win with a good inning. I expect qualls to bounce back.

Lets get rid of saves and SB as categories. Our teams will be stacked HR hitters and fire ball starters I vote for the 8 real categories and a 9th category that combines SB and saves, with each save being worth 2x a SB. [/QUOTE]Stolen bases and saves were among the original 8 categories. Runs and strikeouts were added to make it 5x5. Your ninth category would make saves even more valuable than they are now.

[/QUOTE]Wasn't "Runs Produced" one of the original categories (R+RBI-HR)? We used to use that (and I hated it) in my local leagues way back in the '80's. [/QUOTE]That made me think of GWRBI.

It was fun hearing broadcasters say that like it was a meaningful stat. That gwrbi could come in the third inning of a game with hardly any pressure on the hitter. Not a good stat and am glad it never had legs.

I've never played in a 'runs produced' league.

[ April 22, 2010, 07:39 PM: Message edited by: DOUGHBOYS ]

Dirt Dogs · Post by **Dirt Dogs** » Fri Apr 23, 2010 12:37 am

Dirt Dogs · Post by **Dirt Dogs** » Fri Apr 23, 2010 1:42 am

Dirt Dogs · Post by **Dirt Dogs** » Fri Apr 23, 2010 5:10 am

rockitsauce · Post by **rockitsauce** » Sat Apr 24, 2010 6:12 pm

where is the Jon Rauch sucks thread?

There is a reason why he set up for Qualls in AZ.

Gekko · Post by **Gekko** » Sat Apr 24, 2010 11:26 pm

qualls ain't going anywhere. the rest of the bullpen has been getting torched as well.