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even though shields was bad, that is something i could handle. i chose to start him against the marlins. i NEVER signed up to start moyer against the red sox
looks like i need to update my CBA to put decreased value on a pitcher who is scheduled to pitch the day before an early week series is over
u guys think i'm upset that bids aren't in descending order? that is NOTHING compared to how upset i am here.
ya, i'll get over it and move on soon enough.
looks like i need to update my CBA to put decreased value on a pitcher who is scheduled to pitch the day before an early week series is over
u guys think i'm upset that bids aren't in descending order? that is NOTHING compared to how upset i am here.
ya, i'll get over it and move on soon enough.
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Originally posted by whipsaw:
weather affects a lot of baseball outcomes, not just rainouts. should check the forecasts before making highly speculative adds. so on sunday afternoons you check the wednesday and thursday weather reports??? come on guy. those days are so far off, there is no telling how accurate the forecast will be.
again, the wednesday game got rained out and for some reason they couldn't reschedule a doubleheader on thursday. if you have a crystal ball that goes that deep into researching AND IS ACCURATE, kudos to you. you must have won lots of money playing in the nfbc
weather affects a lot of baseball outcomes, not just rainouts. should check the forecasts before making highly speculative adds. so on sunday afternoons you check the wednesday and thursday weather reports??? come on guy. those days are so far off, there is no telling how accurate the forecast will be.
again, the wednesday game got rained out and for some reason they couldn't reschedule a doubleheader on thursday. if you have a crystal ball that goes that deep into researching AND IS ACCURATE, kudos to you. you must have won lots of money playing in the nfbc
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Originally posted by TOXIC ASSETS:
Gekko that situation is really the rare case of very bad luck. ya, you are right. on the plus side, i did have halladay's perfect game and i did have moyer on 3 teams, but believe i only started him in one league. i'm almost afraid to check!
Gekko that situation is really the rare case of very bad luck. ya, you are right. on the plus side, i did have halladay's perfect game and i did have moyer on 3 teams, but believe i only started him in one league. i'm almost afraid to check!
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Originally posted by Gekko:
quote:Originally posted by whipsaw:
weather affects a lot of baseball outcomes, not just rainouts. should check the forecasts before making highly speculative adds. so on sunday afternoons you check the wednesday and thursday weather reports??? come on guy. those days are so far off, there is no telling how accurate the forecast will be.
again, the wednesday game got rained out and for some reason they couldn't reschedule a doubleheader on thursday. if you have a crystal ball that goes that deep into researching AND IS ACCURATE, kudos to you. you must have won lots of money playing in the nfbc [/QUOTE]obviously i was speaking a bit tongue in cheek, but you accept a lot of variance and risk in fantasy baseball. the weather is one of those risks. it affects all kinds of things, including pushing fly balls out of wrigley during the day to blowing balls back in at night in anaheim. sometimes it is completely random. when you put a player out there for the week, are you not accepting all of the risks that weather brings to the table or do you believe you accept only certain ones?
quote:Originally posted by whipsaw:
weather affects a lot of baseball outcomes, not just rainouts. should check the forecasts before making highly speculative adds. so on sunday afternoons you check the wednesday and thursday weather reports??? come on guy. those days are so far off, there is no telling how accurate the forecast will be.
again, the wednesday game got rained out and for some reason they couldn't reschedule a doubleheader on thursday. if you have a crystal ball that goes that deep into researching AND IS ACCURATE, kudos to you. you must have won lots of money playing in the nfbc [/QUOTE]obviously i was speaking a bit tongue in cheek, but you accept a lot of variance and risk in fantasy baseball. the weather is one of those risks. it affects all kinds of things, including pushing fly balls out of wrigley during the day to blowing balls back in at night in anaheim. sometimes it is completely random. when you put a player out there for the week, are you not accepting all of the risks that weather brings to the table or do you believe you accept only certain ones?
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Originally posted by whipsaw:
quote:Originally posted by Gekko:
quote:Originally posted by whipsaw:
weather affects a lot of baseball outcomes, not just rainouts. should check the forecasts before making highly speculative adds. so on sunday afternoons you check the wednesday and thursday weather reports??? come on guy. those days are so far off, there is no telling how accurate the forecast will be.
again, the wednesday game got rained out and for some reason they couldn't reschedule a doubleheader on thursday. if you have a crystal ball that goes that deep into researching AND IS ACCURATE, kudos to you. you must have won lots of money playing in the nfbc [/QUOTE]obviously i was speaking a bit tongue in cheek, but you accept a lot of variance and risk in fantasy baseball. the weather is one of those risks. it affects all kinds of things, including pushing fly balls out of wrigley during the day to blowing balls back in at night in anaheim. sometimes it is completely random. when you put a player out there for the week, are you not accepting all of the risks that weather brings to the table or do you believe you accept only certain ones? [/QUOTE]i don't know how common it is for a wednesday game to get rained out and even though there is a thursday game against the same team it doesn't get played as a doubleheader.
i'd venture to guess what happened here is rare as someone else mentioned.
as for the wind impacting games, that is something you can research and plan for.
but, yes, the buck stops with the owner. i take full responsibility for what happened. [tongue-in-cheek]
quote:Originally posted by Gekko:
quote:Originally posted by whipsaw:
weather affects a lot of baseball outcomes, not just rainouts. should check the forecasts before making highly speculative adds. so on sunday afternoons you check the wednesday and thursday weather reports??? come on guy. those days are so far off, there is no telling how accurate the forecast will be.
again, the wednesday game got rained out and for some reason they couldn't reschedule a doubleheader on thursday. if you have a crystal ball that goes that deep into researching AND IS ACCURATE, kudos to you. you must have won lots of money playing in the nfbc [/QUOTE]obviously i was speaking a bit tongue in cheek, but you accept a lot of variance and risk in fantasy baseball. the weather is one of those risks. it affects all kinds of things, including pushing fly balls out of wrigley during the day to blowing balls back in at night in anaheim. sometimes it is completely random. when you put a player out there for the week, are you not accepting all of the risks that weather brings to the table or do you believe you accept only certain ones? [/QUOTE]i don't know how common it is for a wednesday game to get rained out and even though there is a thursday game against the same team it doesn't get played as a doubleheader.
i'd venture to guess what happened here is rare as someone else mentioned.
as for the wind impacting games, that is something you can research and plan for.
but, yes, the buck stops with the owner. i take full responsibility for what happened. [tongue-in-cheek]
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Common Gekko. seriously Moyer? You are upset because Moyer, mr. 47 year old got crushed? Didn't the Marlins score 8 tonight? you made a very aggressive bet and it came up bad. It happens. I was surprised you would even make that bet to begin with 
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Mark,No worries.Just switch him with another pitcher on your roster.
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Originally posted by Spyhunter:
Common Gekko. seriously Moyer? You are upset because Moyer, mr. 47 year old got crushed? Didn't the Marlins score 8 tonight? you made a very aggressive bet and it came up bad. It happens. I was surprised you would even make that bet to begin with unless you've been living in a cave, moyer has had some very good starts up until tonight. he was a "safe" play vs the marlins and that's why i bought him. he has GREAT career numbers (see below) against them. doing a little research would have shown you that
119 innings
19 games
13 wins
3.09 era
1.12 whip
Common Gekko. seriously Moyer? You are upset because Moyer, mr. 47 year old got crushed? Didn't the Marlins score 8 tonight? you made a very aggressive bet and it came up bad. It happens. I was surprised you would even make that bet to begin with
unless you've been living in a cave, moyer has had some very good starts up until tonight. he was a "safe" play vs the marlins and that's why i bought him. he has GREAT career numbers (see below) against them. doing a little research would have shown you that 119 innings
19 games
13 wins
3.09 era
1.12 whip
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Originally posted by eddiejag:
Yeah how dumb am i i played him in my wcoff main when i could have benched him for a guy that doesnt pitch but NO i get greedy.I also cut Theriot and put in Hairston who goes 0 for 14 and Theriot is having a great week with steals and 4 runs in one game and to top it off i play Encarnarcion over Gabey Sanchez who had a monster game tonight with 2 homers and a ton of rbi's.
I need another glass of wine.
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Yeah how dumb am i i played him in my wcoff main when i could have benched him for a guy that doesnt pitch but NO i get greedy.I also cut Theriot and put in Hairston who goes 0 for 14 and Theriot is having a great week with steals and 4 runs in one game and to top it off i play Encarnarcion over Gabey Sanchez who had a monster game tonight with 2 homers and a ton of rbi's.
I need another glass of wine.
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Originally posted by Gekko:
quote:Originally posted by Spyhunter:
Common Gekko. seriously Moyer? You are upset because Moyer, mr. 47 year old got crushed? Didn't the Marlins score 8 tonight? you made a very aggressive bet and it came up bad. It happens. I was surprised you would even make that bet to begin with unless you've been living in a cave, moyer has had some very good starts up until tonight. he was a "safe" play vs the marlins and that's why i bought him. he has GREAT career numbers (see below) against them. doing a little research would have shown you that
119 innings
19 games
13 wins
3.09 era
1.12 whip [/QUOTE]Yep, those three gems he tossed against florida in 2006 are a big factor for how he would fare against them this year. What of his 0-2, 6 ER in 12 innings against them this year?
quote:Originally posted by Spyhunter:
Common Gekko. seriously Moyer? You are upset because Moyer, mr. 47 year old got crushed? Didn't the Marlins score 8 tonight? you made a very aggressive bet and it came up bad. It happens. I was surprised you would even make that bet to begin with
unless you've been living in a cave, moyer has had some very good starts up until tonight. he was a "safe" play vs the marlins and that's why i bought him. he has GREAT career numbers (see below) against them. doing a little research would have shown you that 119 innings
19 games
13 wins
3.09 era
1.12 whip [/QUOTE]Yep, those three gems he tossed against florida in 2006 are a big factor for how he would fare against them this year. What of his 0-2, 6 ER in 12 innings against them this year?
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Originally posted by whipsaw:
Yep, those three gems he tossed against florida in 2006 are a big factor for how he would fare against them this year. What of his 0-2, 6 ER in 12 innings against them this year? you forgot to include he has a 1.08 whip this year against them. you keep cherrypicking what you look at. i don't look at era when determining if a starter is good or not. i look at other factors. and it's been very successful for me throughout the years. how about you?
Yep, those three gems he tossed against florida in 2006 are a big factor for how he would fare against them this year. What of his 0-2, 6 ER in 12 innings against them this year? you forgot to include he has a 1.08 whip this year against them. you keep cherrypicking what you look at. i don't look at era when determining if a starter is good or not. i look at other factors. and it's been very successful for me throughout the years. how about you?
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Gekko,
Common, the guy is 47. He is mediocre. At 47, you can never be called "SAFE".
Common, the guy is 47. He is mediocre. At 47, you can never be called "SAFE".
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Originally posted by whipsaw:
quote:Originally posted by Gekko:
quote:Originally posted by Spyhunter:
Common Gekko. seriously Moyer? You are upset because Moyer, mr. 47 year old got crushed? Didn't the Marlins score 8 tonight? you made a very aggressive bet and it came up bad. It happens. I was surprised you would even make that bet to begin with unless you've been living in a cave, moyer has had some very good starts up until tonight. he was a "safe" play vs the marlins and that's why i bought him. he has GREAT career numbers (see below) against them. doing a little research would have shown you that
119 innings
19 games
13 wins
3.09 era
1.12 whip [/QUOTE]Yep, those three gems he tossed against florida in 2006 are a big factor for how he would fare against them this year. What of his 0-2, 6 ER in 12 innings against them this year? [/QUOTE]47 years old with a 3.92/1.08 season going ... even better if you play the matchups.
The issue isn't that he can't pitch, it's that none of us wanted to start him at Boston - which would be true of a lot of pitchers.
quote:Originally posted by Gekko:
quote:Originally posted by Spyhunter:
Common Gekko. seriously Moyer? You are upset because Moyer, mr. 47 year old got crushed? Didn't the Marlins score 8 tonight? you made a very aggressive bet and it came up bad. It happens. I was surprised you would even make that bet to begin with
unless you've been living in a cave, moyer has had some very good starts up until tonight. he was a "safe" play vs the marlins and that's why i bought him. he has GREAT career numbers (see below) against them. doing a little research would have shown you that 119 innings
19 games
13 wins
3.09 era
1.12 whip [/QUOTE]Yep, those three gems he tossed against florida in 2006 are a big factor for how he would fare against them this year. What of his 0-2, 6 ER in 12 innings against them this year? [/QUOTE]47 years old with a 3.92/1.08 season going ... even better if you play the matchups.
The issue isn't that he can't pitch, it's that none of us wanted to start him at Boston - which would be true of a lot of pitchers.
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Originally posted by Gekko:
quote:Originally posted by whipsaw:
Yep, those three gems he tossed against florida in 2006 are a big factor for how he would fare against them this year. What of his 0-2, 6 ER in 12 innings against them this year? you forgot to include he has a 1.08 whip this year against them. you keep cherrypicking what you look at. i don't look at era when determining if a starter is good or not. i look at other factors. and it's been very successful for me throughout the years. how about you? [/QUOTE]your chief argument included his starts against the marlins in 2006. that's pretty much all i need to hear about your method.
quote:Originally posted by whipsaw:
Yep, those three gems he tossed against florida in 2006 are a big factor for how he would fare against them this year. What of his 0-2, 6 ER in 12 innings against them this year? you forgot to include he has a 1.08 whip this year against them. you keep cherrypicking what you look at. i don't look at era when determining if a starter is good or not. i look at other factors. and it's been very successful for me throughout the years. how about you? [/QUOTE]your chief argument included his starts against the marlins in 2006. that's pretty much all i need to hear about your method.
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Originally posted by whipsaw:
your chief argument included his starts against the marlins in 2006. that's pretty much all i need to hear about your method. that's fine. anytime you want to match nfbc resumes, let me know. until then, you keep doing what you're doing (being a tongue in cheek guy) and i'll keep doing what i'm doing (winning)
your chief argument included his starts against the marlins in 2006. that's pretty much all i need to hear about your method. that's fine. anytime you want to match nfbc resumes, let me know. until then, you keep doing what you're doing (being a tongue in cheek guy) and i'll keep doing what i'm doing (winning)
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Originally posted by Gekko:
quote:Originally posted by KJ Duke:
47 years old with a 3.92/1.08 season going ... even better if you play the matchups.
duke - why let FACTS get in the way. some people are just haters or tongue-in-cheek haters [/QUOTE]What in the hell kind of league were you in that this ace was sitting in your FA pool anyway?
xFIP in the high 4's, going up against a team with an above average offense against lefties. seems like a no play to me but what do i know, he owned the Marlins back when Wes Helms was in the heart of the order.
quote:Originally posted by KJ Duke:
47 years old with a 3.92/1.08 season going ... even better if you play the matchups.
duke - why let FACTS get in the way. some people are just haters or tongue-in-cheek haters [/QUOTE]What in the hell kind of league were you in that this ace was sitting in your FA pool anyway?
xFIP in the high 4's, going up against a team with an above average offense against lefties. seems like a no play to me but what do i know, he owned the Marlins back when Wes Helms was in the heart of the order.
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Originally posted by Gekko:
quote:Originally posted by whipsaw:
your chief argument included his starts against the marlins in 2006. that's pretty much all i need to hear about your method. that's fine. anytime you want to match nfbc resumes, let me know. until then, you keep doing what you're doing (being a tongue in cheek guy) and i'll keep doing what i'm doing (winning) [/QUOTE]why in the world would nfbc resumes mean anything at all when the results, in your words, are "no reflection on my fantasy skills"?
quote:Originally posted by whipsaw:
your chief argument included his starts against the marlins in 2006. that's pretty much all i need to hear about your method. that's fine. anytime you want to match nfbc resumes, let me know. until then, you keep doing what you're doing (being a tongue in cheek guy) and i'll keep doing what i'm doing (winning) [/QUOTE]why in the world would nfbc resumes mean anything at all when the results, in your words, are "no reflection on my fantasy skills"?
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Gekko,
In an ominous enviornment when things broke horribly for you producing the matchup that Moyer had tonight - that's when you call "Your Guy" and lay a couple of bones down on the BoSox -150 to do a little "hedging" to calm your fears!
It doesn't save your staff any, but you'd walk away feeling a little better (and smarter!) knowing you called the outcome once you saw Moyer got pushed back to face Boston!
I know this doesn't help any. I loathe the helpless feeling one gets when taking that kind of pounding. I own Johan and hollered at Manuel for an inning and a half before the bastard finally yanked him only after he gave up 10er in 3IP vs. the Phillies on that Sunday night game earlier this season.
In an ominous enviornment when things broke horribly for you producing the matchup that Moyer had tonight - that's when you call "Your Guy" and lay a couple of bones down on the BoSox -150 to do a little "hedging" to calm your fears!
It doesn't save your staff any, but you'd walk away feeling a little better (and smarter!) knowing you called the outcome once you saw Moyer got pushed back to face Boston!
I know this doesn't help any. I loathe the helpless feeling one gets when taking that kind of pounding. I own Johan and hollered at Manuel for an inning and a half before the bastard finally yanked him only after he gave up 10er in 3IP vs. the Phillies on that Sunday night game earlier this season.
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