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Some Major League players make a fortune while never playing up to their potential. That potential is the carrot dangling in front of the nose of GM's and owners.
JD Drew's comment the other day that he had played up to his contract rubbed me the wrong way. No, it flat out pisssed me off.
When younger, the eye-popping potential Drew possessed, had MLB execs and scouts licking their chops. He was the second pick in the 1997 MLB draft. Influenced by Scott Boras, he declared he would not sign for less than 10 million dollars. The Phillies would not cave to the demands and Drew played in an Independent League.
The next year, he was signed by the Cardinals and played six years with them. He topped 20 home runs and 70 rbi once during those six years. Maybe the most noteable occurance for him during that time is that he made his debut the night that Mark McGwire broke Roger Maris home run record.
He signed with the Braves and had the best year of his career. That one year will make him over 100 million dollars. He signed a five year-55 million dollar contract with the Dodgers, opted out two years later and signed a 70 million, five year contract with the Red Sox.
Drew and Boras have made the most out of that Atlanta year. For the most part, before and since, Drew has been an average player. For the Red Sox, a mediocre player. Maybe folks in Fenway should be calling him JV Drew.
Drew has earned other nicknames at the Major League level. DL Drew and 'Nancy' Drew, because of so much time spent looking at games rather than playing them.
Drew has never played in 150 games during a season. He has played in 140 games three times.
Reliability is not what he is paid for.
He can hit, but only when 100 per cent healthy.
Drew telling me he has earned his contract draws the same reaction in my mind as OJ Simpson declaring his innocence.
You got away with it, now shut up, and go away.
He is peeing on my leg and telling me it's raining.
Drew has a baseball body and a cash register mind. He is ok with never reaching full potential.
In his mind, 70 million dollars over five years equals mediocrity. If true, mission accomplished.
But don't sell the rest of us on mediocrity being worth 70 million dollars. JD? Just Dumb.
Next year is another contract year for Drew. Maybe the Sox will see more effort from Drew. Probably not. At 35, he'll have actual injuries that would drive even other players to the bench. One year removed from baseball, he'll be in the disabilty line at the Social Security office.
It is too bad that a little of Dustin Pedroia couldn't have rubbed off on Drew.
Pedroia is the ultimate gamer.
Drew, the ultimate lamer.
Ten years ago, the JD could have stood for 'Jim Dandy' or 'Jaw Dropping'. Ten years from now, it could stand for John Doe. For all the talent he possessed, he'll be remembered by few.
We can fit potential in our back pocket if not used. Drew's pockets are filled with money. Potential was thrown out to make more room for money. Potential has left the building. Good bye potential, hello mediocrity.
For Drew, it all pays the same.
[ August 05, 2010, 04:52 PM: Message edited by: DOUGHBOYS ]
JD Drew's comment the other day that he had played up to his contract rubbed me the wrong way. No, it flat out pisssed me off.
When younger, the eye-popping potential Drew possessed, had MLB execs and scouts licking their chops. He was the second pick in the 1997 MLB draft. Influenced by Scott Boras, he declared he would not sign for less than 10 million dollars. The Phillies would not cave to the demands and Drew played in an Independent League.
The next year, he was signed by the Cardinals and played six years with them. He topped 20 home runs and 70 rbi once during those six years. Maybe the most noteable occurance for him during that time is that he made his debut the night that Mark McGwire broke Roger Maris home run record.
He signed with the Braves and had the best year of his career. That one year will make him over 100 million dollars. He signed a five year-55 million dollar contract with the Dodgers, opted out two years later and signed a 70 million, five year contract with the Red Sox.
Drew and Boras have made the most out of that Atlanta year. For the most part, before and since, Drew has been an average player. For the Red Sox, a mediocre player. Maybe folks in Fenway should be calling him JV Drew.
Drew has earned other nicknames at the Major League level. DL Drew and 'Nancy' Drew, because of so much time spent looking at games rather than playing them.
Drew has never played in 150 games during a season. He has played in 140 games three times.
Reliability is not what he is paid for.
He can hit, but only when 100 per cent healthy.
Drew telling me he has earned his contract draws the same reaction in my mind as OJ Simpson declaring his innocence.
You got away with it, now shut up, and go away.
He is peeing on my leg and telling me it's raining.
Drew has a baseball body and a cash register mind. He is ok with never reaching full potential.
In his mind, 70 million dollars over five years equals mediocrity. If true, mission accomplished.
But don't sell the rest of us on mediocrity being worth 70 million dollars. JD? Just Dumb.
Next year is another contract year for Drew. Maybe the Sox will see more effort from Drew. Probably not. At 35, he'll have actual injuries that would drive even other players to the bench. One year removed from baseball, he'll be in the disabilty line at the Social Security office.
It is too bad that a little of Dustin Pedroia couldn't have rubbed off on Drew.
Pedroia is the ultimate gamer.
Drew, the ultimate lamer.
Ten years ago, the JD could have stood for 'Jim Dandy' or 'Jaw Dropping'. Ten years from now, it could stand for John Doe. For all the talent he possessed, he'll be remembered by few.
We can fit potential in our back pocket if not used. Drew's pockets are filled with money. Potential was thrown out to make more room for money. Potential has left the building. Good bye potential, hello mediocrity.
For Drew, it all pays the same.
[ August 05, 2010, 04:52 PM: Message edited by: DOUGHBOYS ]
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Allow me a defense of the much-maligned JD Drew....
Basically, he's a much better baseball player than he is a fantasy player. As Theo Epstein observed of Drew earlier this season, his value is very simple: he just does not make many outs.
Sure, fans dig the long ball, and Drew's not a true slugger. But he's still got a very nice .382 OBP in his Boston career. For 2008-09, he put up 900+ OPS both years. Those are very productive numbers. (His 2007 was marred by some significant off-field issues involving the health of his child, which pretty clearly affected his performance.)
As far as being injury prone, he's basically had one significant injury in his Boston tenure. He's on pace to play north of 130 games for the third time in his four Boston years.
Fans like to rip on him because he's an easy target. See Bill Simmons' complaint about him as the face of the "boring" Sox last week. Just this past weekend, I was at Fenway and sitting right by the Pesky Pole in RF. A guy a few seats a way was heckling Drew throughout the first inning. Then in the 2nd Drew came over and made a very nice sliding catch in front of the warning track. I didn't hear anything from the guy the rest of the game.
If you want to rip on guys for not earning their contract, you should start the discussion with the like of Ollie Perez. Drew isn't anywhere near the top of that list.
Basically, he's a much better baseball player than he is a fantasy player. As Theo Epstein observed of Drew earlier this season, his value is very simple: he just does not make many outs.
Sure, fans dig the long ball, and Drew's not a true slugger. But he's still got a very nice .382 OBP in his Boston career. For 2008-09, he put up 900+ OPS both years. Those are very productive numbers. (His 2007 was marred by some significant off-field issues involving the health of his child, which pretty clearly affected his performance.)
As far as being injury prone, he's basically had one significant injury in his Boston tenure. He's on pace to play north of 130 games for the third time in his four Boston years.
Fans like to rip on him because he's an easy target. See Bill Simmons' complaint about him as the face of the "boring" Sox last week. Just this past weekend, I was at Fenway and sitting right by the Pesky Pole in RF. A guy a few seats a way was heckling Drew throughout the first inning. Then in the 2nd Drew came over and made a very nice sliding catch in front of the warning track. I didn't hear anything from the guy the rest of the game.
If you want to rip on guys for not earning their contract, you should start the discussion with the like of Ollie Perez. Drew isn't anywhere near the top of that list.
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Hopefully some Drew hasn't rubbed off on Ellsbury. Many in the Boston media feel that it has. If so, that will be the biggest dis-service he has provided the Sox.
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A few years ago while playing for LA- I saw him look at 18 pitches in a row without swinging the bat. Struck out all 3 times. He must of had a bet.
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Originally posted by rmurph3:
Allow me a defense of the much-maligned JD Drew....
Basically, he's a much better baseball player than he is a fantasy player. As Theo Epstein observed of Drew earlier this season, his value is very simple: he just does not make many outs.
Sure, fans dig the long ball, and Drew's not a true slugger. But he's still got a very nice .382 OBP in his Boston career. For 2008-09, he put up 900+ OPS both years. Those are very productive numbers. (His 2007 was marred by some significant off-field issues involving the health of his child, which pretty clearly affected his performance.)
As far as being injury prone, he's basically had one significant injury in his Boston tenure. He's on pace to play north of 130 games for the third time in his four Boston years.
Fans like to rip on him because he's an easy target. See Bill Simmons' complaint about him as the face of the "boring" Sox last week. Just this past weekend, I was at Fenway and sitting right by the Pesky Pole in RF. A guy a few seats a way was heckling Drew throughout the first inning. Then in the 2nd Drew came over and made a very nice sliding catch in front of the warning track. I didn't hear anything from the guy the rest of the game.
If you want to rip on guys for not earning their contract, you should start the discussion with the like of Ollie Perez. Drew isn't anywhere near the top of that list. You're right about one thing, it is easy to rip on Drew. He makes it easy.
In backing his mediocrity, you state that he is on pace to play in 130 games three of four years.
Is this an accomplishment?
Maybe for Drew, but not most players.
It's great that he wanted to make the play in front of the heckling fan. Maybe, the heckling fan should be patting himself on the back for providing the impetus for Drew to WANT to make that catch.
If there was a 'Day to Day' Hall of Fame, Drew would probably make it on the first ballot.
Heck, we can call it the Hall of Lame.
If remembered at all after his career, it'll be more for his lack of play, not, because of his play.
Allow me a defense of the much-maligned JD Drew....
Basically, he's a much better baseball player than he is a fantasy player. As Theo Epstein observed of Drew earlier this season, his value is very simple: he just does not make many outs.
Sure, fans dig the long ball, and Drew's not a true slugger. But he's still got a very nice .382 OBP in his Boston career. For 2008-09, he put up 900+ OPS both years. Those are very productive numbers. (His 2007 was marred by some significant off-field issues involving the health of his child, which pretty clearly affected his performance.)
As far as being injury prone, he's basically had one significant injury in his Boston tenure. He's on pace to play north of 130 games for the third time in his four Boston years.
Fans like to rip on him because he's an easy target. See Bill Simmons' complaint about him as the face of the "boring" Sox last week. Just this past weekend, I was at Fenway and sitting right by the Pesky Pole in RF. A guy a few seats a way was heckling Drew throughout the first inning. Then in the 2nd Drew came over and made a very nice sliding catch in front of the warning track. I didn't hear anything from the guy the rest of the game.
If you want to rip on guys for not earning their contract, you should start the discussion with the like of Ollie Perez. Drew isn't anywhere near the top of that list. You're right about one thing, it is easy to rip on Drew. He makes it easy.
In backing his mediocrity, you state that he is on pace to play in 130 games three of four years.
Is this an accomplishment?
Maybe for Drew, but not most players.
It's great that he wanted to make the play in front of the heckling fan. Maybe, the heckling fan should be patting himself on the back for providing the impetus for Drew to WANT to make that catch.
If there was a 'Day to Day' Hall of Fame, Drew would probably make it on the first ballot.
Heck, we can call it the Hall of Lame.
If remembered at all after his career, it'll be more for his lack of play, not, because of his play.
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Originally posted by rmurph3:
Allow me a defense of the much-maligned JD Drew....
Basically, he's a much better baseball player than he is a fantasy player. As Theo Epstein observed of Drew earlier this season, his value is very simple: he just does not make many outs.
Sure, fans dig the long ball, and Drew's not a true slugger. But he's still got a very nice .382 OBP in his Boston career. For 2008-09, he put up 900+ OPS both years. Those are very productive numbers. (His 2007 was marred by some significant off-field issues involving the health of his child, which pretty clearly affected his performance.)
I agree. And I think you could make a lot of comparisons between Drew and players like Lance Berkman and Todd Helton that would suggest that Drew has more than lived up to his contract the last couple years relative to them and what they “earned”.
But that’s not really the point. He will always be hated by some because of the overriding impression that it’s all about the money. Especially, and I would say almost entirely, since he took that stance from day one as a rookie. And maybe it is about the money for Drew, I don’t know.
But for some reason people hate the fact that he stood up and said, pay me what I think I’m worth or I’m not playing. He did this in the face of a monopoly with no real option to go anywhere else. Good for Philadelphia that they didn’t pay more than what they felt was right, but why hate Drew.
We saw the same thing with John Elway. I have a friend who absolutely hated Elway because he had the audacity to say that he wasn’t going to play for the Colts. Today people are lining up to criticize Lebron James because he “made” you watch him tell you he was signing for a hundred million to play for the Heat.
At a time when people are stamping their feet back and forth over their perceived loss of economic freedom, we still seem to want to hold our athletes accountable to a different standard when they [the players] are confined to a system which limits their freedom.
Let’s be rational here. Drew made 14 million dollars last year. It would be easy to say he didn’t “live up” to his contract; hell, you could fairly say that no player is “worth” 14 million per year. I could name plenty of players earning less money and producing better stats. But JD Drew made his market and Boston choose to pay his price.
So maybe in Drew’s mind he has put up 14 million worth of stats. But as RMurph3 has said, if you want to use Drew as a baseline for players not earning their pay, there will be a lot of players ahead of Drew on the list.
[ August 05, 2010, 04:25 PM: Message edited by: Navel Lint ]
Allow me a defense of the much-maligned JD Drew....
Basically, he's a much better baseball player than he is a fantasy player. As Theo Epstein observed of Drew earlier this season, his value is very simple: he just does not make many outs.
Sure, fans dig the long ball, and Drew's not a true slugger. But he's still got a very nice .382 OBP in his Boston career. For 2008-09, he put up 900+ OPS both years. Those are very productive numbers. (His 2007 was marred by some significant off-field issues involving the health of his child, which pretty clearly affected his performance.)
I agree. And I think you could make a lot of comparisons between Drew and players like Lance Berkman and Todd Helton that would suggest that Drew has more than lived up to his contract the last couple years relative to them and what they “earned”.
But that’s not really the point. He will always be hated by some because of the overriding impression that it’s all about the money. Especially, and I would say almost entirely, since he took that stance from day one as a rookie. And maybe it is about the money for Drew, I don’t know.
But for some reason people hate the fact that he stood up and said, pay me what I think I’m worth or I’m not playing. He did this in the face of a monopoly with no real option to go anywhere else. Good for Philadelphia that they didn’t pay more than what they felt was right, but why hate Drew.
We saw the same thing with John Elway. I have a friend who absolutely hated Elway because he had the audacity to say that he wasn’t going to play for the Colts. Today people are lining up to criticize Lebron James because he “made” you watch him tell you he was signing for a hundred million to play for the Heat.
At a time when people are stamping their feet back and forth over their perceived loss of economic freedom, we still seem to want to hold our athletes accountable to a different standard when they [the players] are confined to a system which limits their freedom.
Let’s be rational here. Drew made 14 million dollars last year. It would be easy to say he didn’t “live up” to his contract; hell, you could fairly say that no player is “worth” 14 million per year. I could name plenty of players earning less money and producing better stats. But JD Drew made his market and Boston choose to pay his price.
So maybe in Drew’s mind he has put up 14 million worth of stats. But as RMurph3 has said, if you want to use Drew as a baseline for players not earning their pay, there will be a lot of players ahead of Drew on the list.
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I think Ray hit the nail on the head when he said that Drew is a better real life player than fantasy player. (I've thought the opposite of Alfonso Soriano for years)
I've been very happy with Drew's tenure in Boston. He has a terrific all around game including outstanding defense. He gets a better jump on balls than any Red Sox OF I can remember. He's had some huge clutch hits in the post-season including a grand slam off of Carmona in Game 6 of ALCS in 2007. Many folks will remember Lowell and Beckett for that post season but if Drew didn't hit that slam the banner from 07 may be in Colorado or Cleveland. He also has had some huge hits against the Angels and Rays in the post-season. I'd bet he's been their best post season player since he arrived to present. I'll never forget when he carried the team for a month when Big Papi got injured. Drew was named the AL Player of the Month in June 2008 after hitting .337 and hitting 12 home runs. I think he gets a bad reputation mainly due to his contract. I'm a fan!
I've been very happy with Drew's tenure in Boston. He has a terrific all around game including outstanding defense. He gets a better jump on balls than any Red Sox OF I can remember. He's had some huge clutch hits in the post-season including a grand slam off of Carmona in Game 6 of ALCS in 2007. Many folks will remember Lowell and Beckett for that post season but if Drew didn't hit that slam the banner from 07 may be in Colorado or Cleveland. He also has had some huge hits against the Angels and Rays in the post-season. I'd bet he's been their best post season player since he arrived to present. I'll never forget when he carried the team for a month when Big Papi got injured. Drew was named the AL Player of the Month in June 2008 after hitting .337 and hitting 12 home runs. I think he gets a bad reputation mainly due to his contract. I'm a fan!
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I get to watch him on an almost nightly basis and I am not a huge fan. I agree with much of what doughboys says. He seems to never want to be the person to carry the team. Many times he seems intent on taking a walk with men in scoring position.
I think the most irritating thing I noticed this season so far was the day after Youkilis got hurt, he was out of the lineup. Whether or not this was his decision or Francona's, I found it absolutely insulting. The team has been plagued with injuries this year and the team put together an outfield of Bill Hall, Ryan Kalish, and Darnell McDonald on August 3rd. Why Drew wasn't in the lineup is beyond me. To me it just shows how little he cares. I know many other players in the league would fight to stay in the lineup to help a struggling team out.
The talent is obviously there as he shows glimpses of it throughout each year. But the heart is obviously lacking in my opinion. Can't wait until he is replaced on the team.
I think the most irritating thing I noticed this season so far was the day after Youkilis got hurt, he was out of the lineup. Whether or not this was his decision or Francona's, I found it absolutely insulting. The team has been plagued with injuries this year and the team put together an outfield of Bill Hall, Ryan Kalish, and Darnell McDonald on August 3rd. Why Drew wasn't in the lineup is beyond me. To me it just shows how little he cares. I know many other players in the league would fight to stay in the lineup to help a struggling team out.
The talent is obviously there as he shows glimpses of it throughout each year. But the heart is obviously lacking in my opinion. Can't wait until he is replaced on the team.
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Tuesday starter was LH David Huff. Here are Drew's platoon splits this year:
vs RHP: .308/.397/.508 (.944 OPS)
vs LHP: .167/.250/.235 (.485 OPS)
So, it makes all the sense in the world to sit him vs LHP, and it has nothing to do with whether or not he "cares". Seriously, where do so many people get the idea that they know what is or isn't going on in this guy's head?
vs RHP: .308/.397/.508 (.944 OPS)
vs LHP: .167/.250/.235 (.485 OPS)
So, it makes all the sense in the world to sit him vs LHP, and it has nothing to do with whether or not he "cares". Seriously, where do so many people get the idea that they know what is or isn't going on in this guy's head?
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So Drew is to sit out against all lefties the rest of the season? Sorry, with the skill set he supposedly has and the salary he is supposedly living up to, I would expect him to be in the lineup daily unless he has a serious injury.
I said it was in my "opinion" that he has no heart. I realize that the only the player himself ever knows this, so we can only speculate based on what we see. And what I have seen seriously indicates to me that he has no heart.
I said it was in my "opinion" that he has no heart. I realize that the only the player himself ever knows this, so we can only speculate based on what we see. And what I have seen seriously indicates to me that he has no heart.
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Sure, you're entitled to your opinion... but my view is that from where we sit, we don't have nearly enough evidence to inform that opinion. Would you think he had heart if he clapped his hands when he got to 2nd base after a double? Doesn't seem to me like it is a character flaw that he's not that kind of guy.
And yeah, he can't hit lefties. He's hardly alone in that weakness. Nobody in NY seems to consider it a character flaw that Curtis Granderson is inept against lefties, for instance. Sitting him 1-2x a weak against lefties seems to work, in that it keeps him healthy and in the lineup against RHP, which is of course where he earns his money.
Back to the original point of the thread, I think Drew is very much what the Sox expected when they signed him. We can debate whether that's worth $13m/yr, but I think his performance is very much in line with what the Sox thought they were buying with that money.
And yeah, he can't hit lefties. He's hardly alone in that weakness. Nobody in NY seems to consider it a character flaw that Curtis Granderson is inept against lefties, for instance. Sitting him 1-2x a weak against lefties seems to work, in that it keeps him healthy and in the lineup against RHP, which is of course where he earns his money.
Back to the original point of the thread, I think Drew is very much what the Sox expected when they signed him. We can debate whether that's worth $13m/yr, but I think his performance is very much in line with what the Sox thought they were buying with that money.
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Originally posted by rmurph3:
Tuesday starter was LH David Huff. Here are Drew's platoon splits this year:
vs RHP: .308/.397/.508 (.944 OPS)
vs LHP: .167/.250/.235 (.485 OPS)
So, it makes all the sense in the world to sit him vs LHP, and it has nothing to do with whether or not he "cares". Seriously, where do so many people get the idea that they know what is or isn't going on in this guy's head? Tony LaRussa was quoted as saying that Drew settles for playing at 75% and that he had little passion for the game itself.
From a spectator point of view, I'd agree with that assessment.
I don't fault Drew for making a lot of money. When a club signs a player to a contract there will always be the risk that the player will not turn out as envisioned.
Yesterday, in posts, Drew's contract was mentioned along with Ollie Perez, Lance Berkman, and Todd Helton.
Ollie Perez, of course, has not played up to his contract. The important difference being that Perez never claimed he has. Drew did.
Berkman and Helton will long be remembered in Astro's and Rockies memories and record books, Drew, will be a fleeting thought.
One of the best compliments you can give a ball player as they're about ready to leave the game, is that they gave a lot to the game.
Drew took, a lot more than he gave.
Tuesday starter was LH David Huff. Here are Drew's platoon splits this year:
vs RHP: .308/.397/.508 (.944 OPS)
vs LHP: .167/.250/.235 (.485 OPS)
So, it makes all the sense in the world to sit him vs LHP, and it has nothing to do with whether or not he "cares". Seriously, where do so many people get the idea that they know what is or isn't going on in this guy's head? Tony LaRussa was quoted as saying that Drew settles for playing at 75% and that he had little passion for the game itself.
From a spectator point of view, I'd agree with that assessment.
I don't fault Drew for making a lot of money. When a club signs a player to a contract there will always be the risk that the player will not turn out as envisioned.
Yesterday, in posts, Drew's contract was mentioned along with Ollie Perez, Lance Berkman, and Todd Helton.
Ollie Perez, of course, has not played up to his contract. The important difference being that Perez never claimed he has. Drew did.
Berkman and Helton will long be remembered in Astro's and Rockies memories and record books, Drew, will be a fleeting thought.
One of the best compliments you can give a ball player as they're about ready to leave the game, is that they gave a lot to the game.
Drew took, a lot more than he gave.
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Originally posted by rmurph3:
Back to the original point of the thread, I think Drew is very much what the Sox expected when they signed him. We can debate whether that's worth $13m/yr, but I think his performance is very much in line with what the Sox thought they were buying with that money. There is not one thing in this paragraph I can even remotely agree with.
Back to the original point of the thread, I think Drew is very much what the Sox expected when they signed him. We can debate whether that's worth $13m/yr, but I think his performance is very much in line with what the Sox thought they were buying with that money. There is not one thing in this paragraph I can even remotely agree with.
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With the caveat that I personally do not consider these sorts of calculations to be gospel, I do think it does help demonstrate the contention that JD Drew is a better real player than fantasy player. And since the following considers a premise that Bill James fathered, it is understandable where Theo Epstein was coming from and that the Red Sox brass may indeed be okay with what they are getting from Drew.
The details are available on line, but www.fangraphs.com has a table that takes each player's offensive and defensive contributions and converts then to RAR or runs above replacement. They then convert runs above replacement to WAR or wins above replacement. They then assign a $value for each WAR, to determine in dollars and cents, how much each player is worth. Every player's contribution is converted to WAR ad compared via position, so 1 WAR for a shortstop is equal to 1 WAR for a pitcher is equal to 1WAR for a rightfielder, etc.
YEAR $WAR $CONTRACT
2007 7.2M 14M
2008 18.2M 14M
2009 21.6M 14M
2010 8.3M 14M
So in 207, he fell way short of earning his contact. But in '08 and '09, at least according to these calculation, he more than earned his contact. This season is incomplete, and while he is trending to fall short, he is ballpark.
Now consider that a team like Boston will be able to use a player in right the days he is out that will likely be at or above replacement level, they have done fine at the right field spot when it comes to "bang for the buck."
As alluded to, I don't consider the above to be correct to the 5th decimal place. But I do understand and agree conceptually with the larger picture and while the actual dollar for WAR may or may not be 100% accurate, I do think one can extract that Drew has earned his money.
This is not the same as saying he could have performed even better. Just saying based on the numbers he has put up offensively and defensively, he has earned his paycheck.
The details are available on line, but www.fangraphs.com has a table that takes each player's offensive and defensive contributions and converts then to RAR or runs above replacement. They then convert runs above replacement to WAR or wins above replacement. They then assign a $value for each WAR, to determine in dollars and cents, how much each player is worth. Every player's contribution is converted to WAR ad compared via position, so 1 WAR for a shortstop is equal to 1 WAR for a pitcher is equal to 1WAR for a rightfielder, etc.
YEAR $WAR $CONTRACT
2007 7.2M 14M
2008 18.2M 14M
2009 21.6M 14M
2010 8.3M 14M
So in 207, he fell way short of earning his contact. But in '08 and '09, at least according to these calculation, he more than earned his contact. This season is incomplete, and while he is trending to fall short, he is ballpark.
Now consider that a team like Boston will be able to use a player in right the days he is out that will likely be at or above replacement level, they have done fine at the right field spot when it comes to "bang for the buck."
As alluded to, I don't consider the above to be correct to the 5th decimal place. But I do understand and agree conceptually with the larger picture and while the actual dollar for WAR may or may not be 100% accurate, I do think one can extract that Drew has earned his money.
This is not the same as saying he could have performed even better. Just saying based on the numbers he has put up offensively and defensively, he has earned his paycheck.
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Drew
.279-24-68-84-2 = 21.6 million?
Hmm.
Does Scott Boras have anything to do with those equations?
Bottom line is that when the Red Sox signed Drew, they were looking for production in the middle of the lineup.
Drew had a 93 and 100 rbi season prior to the signing. Since then, he has become more of a platoon player who hasn't given them even a 70 rbi season.
Drew is the highest paid position player on his team, yet has most often batted sixth in a lineup, even a lineup riddled by injuries.
Over his first three years with the Red Sox, he has hit .184 with the bases loaded. In that same time frame he hit .243 ANY time runners were in scoring position.
When the Red Sox signed Drew they wanted production.
What they got was sucktion.
My spell checker says that is not a word.
It should be.
Hmm.
Does Scott Boras have anything to do with those equations?
Bottom line is that when the Red Sox signed Drew, they were looking for production in the middle of the lineup.
Drew had a 93 and 100 rbi season prior to the signing. Since then, he has become more of a platoon player who hasn't given them even a 70 rbi season.
Drew is the highest paid position player on his team, yet has most often batted sixth in a lineup, even a lineup riddled by injuries.
Over his first three years with the Red Sox, he has hit .184 with the bases loaded. In that same time frame he hit .243 ANY time runners were in scoring position.
When the Red Sox signed Drew they wanted production.
What they got was sucktion.
My spell checker says that is not a word.
It should be.
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Wait! I never had the perfect draft!
Wait! I never had the perfect draft!
Drew
I side with Dough on this debate- but it seems to me like the quote "who are you going to believe, me or your lying eyes?" applies to the arguments in favor of JD Pew.
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