Rate the Squids

Balticsquids · Post by **Balticsquids** » Mon Mar 21, 2005 4:48 pm

Ok,not to bad but......ensberg starting? your last 3 Of picks? Grienke,loaiza? but not bad not bad

Big Fish · Post by **Big Fish** » Mon Mar 21, 2005 4:55 pm

Not a bad team but not like my Amish.

Big Fish · Post by **Big Fish** » Mon Mar 21, 2005 4:56 pm

Ensberg, Choi, Bellhorn, Nixon and Chavez are not my idea of great core. Pitching looks better than your hitting.

bjoak · Post by **bjoak** » Mon Mar 21, 2005 5:01 pm

Ensberg, Choi, Bellhorn, Nixon and Chavez are not my idea of great core. Pitching looks better than your hitting. I agree! My core is Dunn, Podsednik, Konerko, Crosby, Byrnes.

Evil Empire · Post by **Evil Empire** » Tue Mar 22, 2005 5:23 am

You may think you are light in steals but there is potential for just the opposite. Wells wants 30, Stewart may run more, Iguchi can get 20+, even Hinske may pitch in a few.I also think Rowand will be a monster. You have good closers.Your starters may be light but I still think Garcia can be your ace.

sportsbettingman · Post by **sportsbettingman** » Tue Mar 22, 2005 5:59 am

Can you guys rip my team...I'm sad about Borowski...but hey...I should get used to injuries...as I'll be fighting them all year...

C: Mike Piazza

C: Matt LeCroy

1B: Mike Sweeney

2B: Jose Reyes

SS: Omar Visquel

3B: Scott Rolen

CI: Vinny Castilla

MI: Christian Guzman

DH: Frank Thomas

OF: Barry Bonds

OF: Miguel Cabrera

OF: J.D Drew

OF: Larry Walker

OF: Lance Berkman

Bench: Carl Everett (DH/OF), J.T. Snow, Willie Harris.

SP: Mark Prior

SP: Freddy Garcia

SP: Orlando Hernandez

SP: Jerome Williams

SP: Kevin Brown

SP: Jose Contreras

SP: Esteban Loaiza

RP: Danny Kolb

RP: Joe Borowski (Damnit!)

Bench: Tom Glavine, Kenny Rogers, Jose Lima.

I'll be very active in free agency, as I see plenty of holes on my team...and now my saves will be bottom of the barrell. I had too many drinks in my by the end of the draft, and neglected middle relief pitchers with save potential. Live and Learn.

~Lance

Spyhunter · Post by **Spyhunter** » Tue Mar 22, 2005 6:04 am

Big Fish, hate to mention it, but Bay is also not looking heathly right now (which sucks because I think he is awesome).

I think I have both of you - let me know what you all think:

We were in LV league #6, pick 10:

Offense:

C: B. Molina / B. Ausmus

1B: Sexson

2B: B. Boone

3B: Freel

SS: Guzman

OF: Abreu (1st pick)

OF: Suzuki (2nd)

OF: Edmonds (3rd)

OF: Sosa

OF: Berkman

1b/3b: Adam LaRouche

SS/2b: Womack

Util: David Roberts

Bench:

1b - Hatteberg

OF - Payton

3b/of - Mabry (hoping he will get catcher avail)

Pitching:

SP:

K. Wood

Lieber

K. Brown

Bonderman

Milton

Greinke

Capuano

Lowry, Noah

CL:

Rivera (4th)

Mesa

MR

Salmon Torres

Brazoban, Yhancy

Tim Worrell

Let me know your thoughts!!!!

Spyhunter · Post by **Spyhunter** » Tue Mar 22, 2005 6:09 am

C: Mike Piazza

C: Matt LeCroy

1B: Mike Sweeney

2B: Jose Reyes

SS: Omar Visquel

3B: Scott Rolen

CI: Vinny Castilla

MI: Christian Guzman

DH: Frank Thomas

OF: Barry Bonds

OF: Miguel Cabrera

OF: J.D Drew

OF: Larry Walker

OF: Lance Berkman

Bench: Carl Everett (DH/OF), J.T. Snow, Willie Harris.

SP: Mark Prior

SP: Freddy Garcia

SP: Orlando Hernandez

SP: Jerome Williams

SP: Kevin Brown

SP: Jose Contreras

SP: Esteban Loaiza

RP: Danny Kolb

RP: Joe Borowski (Damnit!)

Bench: Tom Glavine, Kenny Rogers, Jose Lima.

Nice Team, incredible upside, but man, you got the entire set of guys with high upside, but high risk: Piazza, Drew, Bonds, Prior, Reyes, Walker, Sweeney... That offense could be off the charts, or on a medical chart...

Overall, I would work on the SP and Closers, but you knew that.

Good luck!

Chris

sportsbettingman · Post by **sportsbettingman** » Tue Mar 22, 2005 6:10 am

Wow Spy...

I like your team. Freaking Ichiro in the SECOND at pick 10!!!

Abreu at 10 overall!!!

WOW!

Great value. Your OF is awesome once healthy. I should have gone after Wood, as he lasted WAY too long in my league. I wish I grabbed him, and a few weak closers toward the middle-end of the draft.

~Lance

Spyhunter · Post by **Spyhunter** » Tue Mar 22, 2005 6:18 am

Thanks Lance - that is what I was thinking but it is easy to love your own team because those are the players you liked! My strat was best avaiable player and it went well. When it got to 9th pick and helton and abreu were there, I was thrilled. Woods at 8th round was also great.

I was shocked to get Ichiro, but no complaints. There were some weird picks in my league. Like aramis ramirez before ichiro, etc... (not that I don't love ramirez, but 15th pick overall?). GCA disagrees with me, but I would have taken Taxeira, Ichiro, and others before Ramirez...

I agree with you on injuries - my thought is to really win, you have to take some bets, so I went for guys with the big upside at the pick level like Sosa.

BTW: If 2/3RD of your bets come off, your team will be sick!!!!

Spy

eddiejag · Post by **eddiejag** » Tue Mar 22, 2005 7:53 am

Lance hate to break the bad news but BONDS is now out for half the season . Maybe the whole year. BONDS BOROWSKI BAY BUERLE ALOMAR .

30% IS LUCK EDDIEJAG

bjoak · Post by **bjoak** » Tue Mar 22, 2005 1:50 pm

Lance hate to break the bad news but BONDS is now out for half the season . Maybe the whole year. BONDS BOROWSKI BAY BUERLE ALOMAR .

30% IS LUCK EDDIEJAG

I know everyone gets mad at me for saying this stuff, but this is exactly what I'm talking about. Someone picks up a broken down closer with bad genes and a herky-jerky delivery and a 40+ outfielder, with bad knees and when they go down, everyone looks around and says, 'Wow, that's unbelievable! Tough break man. Half the game is luck, you know.' Well, it's not luck, dammit. It has nothing to do with luck. It's awful planning. Maybe I'll lose half my guys to injury tomorrow, but they're not going to be K Rod or Carlos Zambrano or Kerry Wood or Moises Alou or Austin Kearns or Jerry Hairston and still, I'm not going to blame it on luck.

sportsbettingman · Post by **sportsbettingman** » Tue Mar 22, 2005 2:01 pm

I figured Bonds would miss the first 4-6 weeks...and I still think that.

The news media is all about shock journalism. He'll look like a great recovering stud when he comes back much earlier than thought.

Borowski was a late rounder, and I don't like him much...I'll correct that on the wiver wire.

Bonds has a great history of playing...and I don't think that will change.

~Lance

bjoak · Post by **bjoak** » Tue Mar 22, 2005 2:34 pm

Sorry, Lance, didn't mean to insult you there; it's the luck comments that bug me. And you didn't make any that I know of.

Dyv said to me in Vegas that he took some calculated risks because he felt he needed them for the stab at the $100,000. And that's fine. That's a game plan. It's when risks don't work out and people look around dumbfoundedly and say, "Well, that's luck for you" that I hate to see.

I take ownership for the guys on my team: the good, the bad, and the broken. And I'll be a better manager for it because I'll go into next year saying, Let me fix what I did wrong last time, rather than, It was just luck so it'll be a good idea to put Mike Sweeney on first base yet again.

eddiejag · Post by **eddiejag** » Tue Mar 22, 2005 3:53 pm

Sorry but luck is a part of fantasy sports.2003 sexson played 162 games and looked like a safe big power pick. I took him in two leagues and bang , out for the year.I try to stay away from injury type guys , to keep the odds in my favor. When you take a 40 year old outfielder with 3 knee injuries , and you now he's out atleast 6 weeks you get what you deserve.Boroswski another older guy with arm promblems. Stay away. I took milton bradley this year over steve finley only because theirs more of a chance finley could get hurt or not to produce like the year before. he's 40 and it stops sometime. You can lower the chance of injury if you take younger guys , and guys with a good track record. Doesnt always work [sexson] didnt mean to upset you

Dyv · Post by **Dyv** » Tue Mar 22, 2005 4:17 pm

Originally posted by bjoak:

Sorry, Lance, didn't mean to insult you there; it's the luck comments that bug me. And you didn't make any that I know of.

Dyv said to me in Vegas that he took some calculated risks because he felt he needed them for the stab at the $100,000. And that's fine. That's a game plan. It's when risks don't work out and people look around dumbfoundedly and say, "Well, that's luck for you" that I hate to see.

I take ownership for the guys on my team: the good, the bad, and the broken. And I'll be a better manager for it because I'll go into next year saying, Let me fix what I did wrong last time, rather than, It was just luck so it'll be a good idea to put Mike Sweeney on first base yet again. There's no way in heck anyone who took Bonds can blame him missing games (be it 1 or 162) on bad luck. He's a ticking time bomb and to have taken him without full knowledge of that is simply stupid.

I took him too early - no question of that upon further review. I suspect getting Sheffield in round 3 and Berkman in round 11 plus taking excess OF to carry my bags for a while will cover me nicely, but to win the $100k I think I need Bonds for half a season or better. Hearing Bonds was passed until 5th and 6th round in some leagues amazes me. Had I not taken him in the 2nd I would have surely taken him in the 3rd simply due to the upside. The funny thing is not that he may hit 20 or 30 or 40 HR, but the KNOWN commodity that he's out means his spot on my roster can still produce 35 or 45 or 55 HR. I don't care when he comes back (although my bet is still mid-May), as long as he comes back and plays 90% of the games each week.

Does anyone really believe he's going to leave that HR record alone or 'wait until next year' ?

Preposterous... I'd more readily imagine him DH'ing in Yankee pinstripes than retiring.

Dyv

[ March 22, 2005, 10:18 PM: Message edited by: Dyv ]

Big Fish · Post by **Big Fish** » Tue Mar 22, 2005 4:30 pm

Borowski is not bad luck just a bad pick if early for a bad player. I took Hawkins in the 19th and felt very good about that.

Bay will be fine. He hit off the tee today and he is young enough to recover. I still like my chances and I have tallied my hitting and it will rank among the best of 300, I guarantee that.

Buerhle getting healthy is important, and the good news about no break in the ankle and no ligament damage is encouraging. I need Lopez, Lee, Robertson or Contreras to surpise big on the upside if I am to win.

However, look at this lineup and tally it up. It is downright scary my HR, RBI, RUNS, BA. SB is a bit weak but with Byrd out for 3-4 weeks with dislocated finger it is Lofton's job to lose. After watching Byrd last year I am not too worried about it. Micahels isnt ready to take over either, so Lofton will bat 2nd behind Burrell and score a lot of runs and get 20-25 SB I am sure.

Tell me where this line up is flawed:

C- Lo Duca, Santiago

1B - Pujols

2B - Loretta

SS - Guillen

3B - Mora

MI - Roberts

CI - Casey

DH - Pena/Monroe

OF - Bay

OF - Alou

OF - Huff

OF - Floyd

OF - Lofton

Bench: Monroe( he will have a good year, great spring), Rivas (SB), Mackowiak,

P - Radke

P - Buerhle

P - Lopez

P - Lee

P - Contreras

P - Robertson

P - Lidge

P - Hawkins

P - Linebrink

bench: Madsen, Riske, Mateo

Big Fish · Post by **Big Fish** » Tue Mar 22, 2005 4:48 pm

Core players. I would not want Dunn (BA sucks), Podsednik (BA sucks), Crosby (BA sucks), and Byrnes as my "other core". I just dont like your team, nothing personal, but I dont like Choi, Bellhorn, etc, etc. Your average will be deplorable and it looks like you punted it.

I will finish well ahead of you. What league are you in and what is your team name so I can follow. My team is Fightin Amish in League 4. Keep tabs.

KJ Duke · Post by **KJ Duke** » Tue Mar 22, 2005 5:26 pm

Originally posted by Big Fish:

Borowski is not bad luck just a bad pick if early for a bad player. I took Hawkins in the 19th and felt very good about that.

Bay will be fine. He hit off the tee today and he is young enough to recover. I still like my chances and I have tallied my hitting and it will rank among the best of 300, I guarantee that.

Buerhle getting healthy is important, and the good news about no break in the ankle and no ligament damage is encouraging. I need Lopez, Lee, Robertson or Contreras to surpise big on the upside if I am to win.

However, look at this lineup and tally it up. It is downright scary my HR, RBI, RUNS, BA. SB is a bit weak but with Byrd out for 3-4 weeks with dislocated finger it is Lofton's job to lose. After watching Byrd last year I am not too worried about it. Micahels isnt ready to take over either, so Lofton will bat 2nd behind Burrell and score a lot of runs and get 20-25 SB I am sure.

Tell me where this line up is flawed:

C- Lo Duca, Santiago

1B - Pujols

2B - Loretta

SS - Guillen

3B - Mora

MI - Roberts

CI - Casey

DH - Pena/Monroe

OF - Bay

OF - Alou

OF - Huff

OF - Floyd

OF - Lofton

Bench: Monroe( he will have a good year, great spring), Rivas (SB), Mackowiak,

P - Radke

P - Buerhle

P - Lopez

P - Lee

P - Contreras

P - Robertson

P - Lidge

P - Hawkins

P - Linebrink

bench: Madsen, Riske, Mateo Nothing at all wrong with that line-up, but you clearly bought it at the expense of your SPs, even though its not a horrible staff. Hawkins is a nice early boost with Joe down.

Geeko Gecko · Post by **Geeko Gecko** » Tue Mar 22, 2005 6:07 pm

You don't waste picks on pitchers ?

You can't win these leagues with unbalanced teams

you should not be so rude to other people

Injuries is the reason you don't draft pitchers yet you have Casey, Wells, Stewart, Sanders and Rowand.....all often injured players, in your hitting lineup

You can't win with your team unless you rebuild it with free agent dollars...pitching is lousy, hitting is good....but not great, unbalanced, 8th place team

sportsbettingman · Post by **sportsbettingman** » Tue Mar 22, 2005 6:42 pm

Please stop with the lying Gekko...you know you're not from Earth...and I've got my arms draped over 4-deep female gekko-bots who can vouch for me!

~Lance

bjoak · Post by **bjoak** » Tue Mar 22, 2005 7:01 pm

Core players. I would not want Dunn (BA sucks), Podsednik (BA sucks), Crosby (BA sucks), and Byrnes as my "other core". I just dont like your team, nothing personal, but I dont like Choi, Bellhorn, etc, etc. Your average will be deplorable and it looks like you punted it.

Well, now, the beauty of it was that I took players who were undervalued because of their previous year BA's, rather than their significantly better 2005 BA's. But you probably just look at previous year stats and not career numbers and don't know how to evaluate minor league performances and have no idea how to work age into the equation so you have no idea.

That said, I'll hit about .279, not punting it, but it'll be my lowest offensive #, still good for 5th place in my league for that cat.

If you sit there and say, "Well Crosby is a .245 hitter," then you're never going to understand. You just have to wait and see.

[ March 23, 2005, 01:03 AM: Message edited by: bjoak ]

sportsbettingman · Post by **sportsbettingman** » Tue Mar 22, 2005 7:09 pm

Originally posted by bjoak:

Sorry, Lance, didn't mean to insult you there; it's the luck comments that bug me. And you didn't make any that I know of.

Dyv said to me in Vegas that he took some calculated risks because he felt he needed them for the stab at the $100,000. And that's fine. That's a game plan. It's when risks don't work out and people look around dumbfoundedly and say, "Well, that's luck for you" that I hate to see.

I take ownership for the guys on my team: the good, the bad, and the broken. And I'll be a better manager for it because I'll go into next year saying, Let me fix what I did wrong last time, rather than, It was just luck so it'll be a good idea to put Mike Sweeney on first base yet again. I agree.

No excuse for losing with high risk...it's the strategy I chose. (sportsbettingman...gambler)

I had Priest Holmes (#1) last year..and also took a chance on Charles Rogers early...and he broke his collarbone AGAIN in week one!!! That was understandable...but to lose Steve Smith...a top WR early rounder...and losing Holmes too, and having Larry Johnson...as opposed to some unknown Fullback 2nd stringer at the time of the draft "what's his name"...it hurt bad. But that's football...much more luck in head to head than baseball with roto. The winner in baseball should get more respect in my opinion.

I took big risks for players I thought MIGHT play 80%+ of the games this year, and out perform other who were there to pick. I feel baseball is a war...not a battle...there is more time than you think to come from behind. I went with guys I'm scared of (to play against)...even though they get dinged plenty.

I took big risks on "gut" pitchers...I've seen them on TV and live, and feel they have what it takes...if they can stay steady...Brown, El Duque, Contreras, Williams, and Garcia.

I't will be fun to grow stronger as the season goes on...and see if I can chase down some of the other rabbits in my league.

Like a bunch of hound dogs!

~Lance

DaNutz · Post by **DaNutz** » Thu Mar 24, 2005 4:04 am

Chicago Pick #10 Hitting, Hitting, Hitting...

C. H. Cota

C. K. Hill

1B. T. Helton

3B. E. Chavez (Oak)

CI. J. Bagwell

2B. R. Durham

SS. O. Cabrera (Ana)

MI. T. Wigginton

OF. G. Sheffield

OF. J. Damon

OF. M. Ordonez (Det)

OF. P. Wilson

OF. S. Finley

U. R. Palmeiro

P. Ol. Perez

P. R. Clemens

P. Z. Greinke (KC)

P. B. Lawrence

P. W. Williams

P. E. Bedard (Balt)

P. D. Brazelton (TB)

C. E. Guardado (Sea)

C. M. Batista (Tor)