Possible New Ultimate League Payouts

Greg Ambrosius · Post by **Greg Ambrosius** » Thu Jan 20, 2011 3:01 am

Last year when we announced the debut of the NFBC Diamond League we were so giddy that we also increased the prize structures for the NFBC Ultimate League and Super League. But unfortunately we didn't tier the three levels and as a result participation in the Ultimate League suffered.

This year we hope to prevent that from happening again and making each level special. The Diamond League currently pays out 93.33% and I want to make the Ultimate League similar to football at 90 percent payout and the Super League would remain at 86.7 percent. Here's the new details for the Ultimate Draft & Auction League:

1st: $40,000

2nd: $15,000

3rd: $10,000

To get to 90 percent we'd add another $2,500 in prizes this year, again for both the Ultimate Draft & Auction League. I really like the 8x, 3x, 2x payouts we have above and would like to try something unique here. I would like to provide a $100 cash prize for the weekly winner over the last 25 full weeks of the season. This would keep everyone fighting each week and would spread out payments to more people. I know it won't cover anyone's entry fee no matter what happens, but I think it's something that will keep everyone battling to the end and reward those who dominate each week.

Thoughts?

Right now we have a chance for two Ultimate Leagues and I like the way things are progressing. We could add an Ultimate Draft League on the second weekend of March, likely Sunday, if folks want it, but here's what we have so far:

NFBC Ultimate Draft League

Las Vegas/Teleconference

Sunday, March 20, 10 am PT/1 pm ET

1. Stephen Jupinka, Waldwick, New Jersey

2. Robert Particelli, Berwyn, Pennsylvania

3. James Stanard, Chatham, New Jersey

4. George Kleemann, Palatine, Illinois

5. KC Cha, Manhattan Beach, California

6. Kevin Bass, Potomoc, Maryland

7. Shawn Johnson, Charlotte, North Carolina

NFBC Ultimate Auction League

Las Vegas, Venue TBD

Sunday, March 27, 4 pm PT

1. Will Tyrer, Beverly Hills, California

2. James Stanard, Chatham, New Jersey

3. Dave Potts, Auburn, Alabama

4. Lindy Hinkelman, Greencreek, Idaho

Let me know what you think and if you want to be added to this list let me know. Again, going forward the tiered prize structure would be:

NFBC Diamond: 93.33%

NFBC Ultimate: 90%

NFBC Super: 86.7%

[ January 20, 2011, 09:04 AM: Message edited by: Greg Ambrosius ]

Greg Ambrosius · Post by **Greg Ambrosius** » Thu Jan 20, 2011 3:09 am

With the above post in mind, I'd like to let folks know that there are only FOUR SPOTS LEFT in the Saturday, March 26th Super League, which follows the Main Event. That event has sold out every year since 2006 and it looks like it will be an early sellout again. If we sell that one out early we can either add a second Super League for that night or look for another time slot to add.

Here's the signups thus far for the two Super Leagues we currently have scheduled:

NFBC Super League

Saturday, March 26, 7 pm ET/4 pm PT

1. James Stanard, Edwards, Colorado (LV)

2. Jeff Dobies, Farmingville, New York (NY)

3. Joe Thelen, Garden City, New York

4. Lavoie Gaetan, Varennes, Quebec (LV)

5. Thomas McDevitt, Berkeley, California (LV)

6. Ken Magner, Freehold, New Jersey (LV)

7. Stephen Jupinka, Waldwick, New Jersey (LV)

8. Bryan Fitzgerald, Latham, New York (LV)

9. Robert Particelli, Berwyn, Pennsylvania

10. Glenn Lowy, Farmingville, New York

11. Shawn Johnson, Charlotte, North Carolina

12. Rusty Clark, Centerville, Ohio (LV)

NFBC Super League

Sunday, March 27, 1 p.m. ET/10 am PT

1. Thomas McDevitt, Berkeley, California (LV)

2. Ken Magner, Freehold, New Jersey (LV)

3. Shawn Johnson, Charlotte, North Carolina

Last year we also had a full Super League on Sunday, March 20th and there should have been a signup link for that one. I'm not sure what happened there, but if anyone would like to do a Super League on Sunday, March 20th I'm up for it. We can either do it at 1 pm ET/10 am PT during the same time as the Ultimate League, or better yet I'll schedule one for 7 pm ET/4 pm PT on Sunday, March 20th if that works better for everyone. Then we can host an Ultimate League in the morning and a Super League at night.

Once we have the new Registration page ready, plan on seeing a third Super League on Sunday, March 20th. Otherwise, plan for the 86.7% payout in this format and drafts on March 20, March 26 and March 27. I'll host them in Las Vegas and we can hook up everyone via telephone/online with large draft boards to follow online. I hope that helps.

[ January 20, 2011, 11:19 AM: Message edited by: Greg Ambrosius ]

Hells Satans · Post by **Hells Satans** » Thu Jan 20, 2011 3:28 am

I'm in. Well, I was already in. But now I'm really in.

King of Queens · Post by **King of Queens** » Thu Jan 20, 2011 3:34 am

Originally posted by Greg Ambrosius:

NFBC Diamond: 93.33%

NFBC Ultimate: 90%

NFBC Super: 86.7% Great news, Greg! Thanks for the update.

Greg Ambrosius · Post by **Greg Ambrosius** » Thu Jan 20, 2011 8:39 am

Just a heads up that now we have just TWO SPOTS LEFT for the Super League on Saturday, March 26th. Let me know if you want to jump on into this one and I'll add you to the list. Again, if we fill this one quickly we can keep it open and try for a second Super League at that time or we'll create a new draft date like Sunday, March 20th. Thanks all.

Here's the latest updated lists for the Supers:

NFBC Super League

Saturday, March 26, 7 pm ET/4 pm PT

1. James Stanard, Edwards, Colorado (LV)

2. Jeff Dobies, Farmingville, New York (NY)

3. Joe Thelen, Garden City, New York

4. Lavoie Gaetan, Varennes, Quebec (LV)

5. Thomas McDevitt, Berkeley, California (LV)

6. Ken Magner, Freehold, New Jersey (LV)

7. Stephen Jupinka, Waldwick, New Jersey (LV)

8. Bryan Fitzgerald, Latham, New York (LV)

9. Robert Particelli, Berwyn, Pennsylvania

10. Glenn Lowy, Farmingville, New York

11. Shawn Johnson, Charlotte, North Carolina

12. Rusty Clark, Centerville, Ohio (LV)

13. Anson Chan, Ft. Lee, New Jersey

NFBC Super League

Sunday, March 27, 1 p.m. ET/10 am PT

1. Thomas McDevitt, Berkeley, California (LV)

2. Ken Magner, Freehold, New Jersey (LV)

3. Shawn Johnson, Charlotte, North Carolina

4. Anson Chan, Ft. Lee, New Jersey

5. Matt Bauler, Memphis, Tennessee

6. Dave Potts, Auburn, Alabama

[ January 21, 2011, 09:27 AM: Message edited by: Greg Ambrosius ]

751542 · Post by **751542** » Thu Jan 20, 2011 9:54 am

i will take that super spot...the one on sat...thanks

Greg Ambrosius · Post by **Greg Ambrosius** » Thu Jan 20, 2011 10:03 am

Originally posted by RoundTrippers:

i will take that super spot...the one on sat...thanks ONE SPOT LEFT!!! Thanks all. Here's the current lineup cards:

NFBC Super League

Saturday, March 26, 7 pm ET/4 pm PT

1. James Stanard, Edwards, Colorado (LV)

2. Jeff Dobies, Farmingville, New York (NY)

3. Joe Thelen, Garden City, New York

4. Lavoie Gaetan, Varennes, Quebec (LV)

5. Thomas McDevitt, Berkeley, California (LV)

6. Ken Magner, Freehold, New Jersey (LV)

7. Stephen Jupinka, Waldwick, New Jersey (LV)

8. Bryan Fitzgerald, Latham, New York (LV)

9. Robert Particelli, Berwyn, Pennsylvania

10. Glenn Lowy, Farmingville, New York

11. Shawn Johnson, Charlotte, North Carolina

12. Rusty Clark, Centerville, Ohio (LV)

13. Anson Chan, Ft. Lee, New Jersey

14. Rick Thomas, Lewes, Delaware (LV)

Red Sox Nation · Post by **Red Sox Nation** » Thu Jan 20, 2011 10:55 am

Hi Greg,

Can you give me that final spot in the Super for Saturday night? Looks like some tough competition as usual. Thanks

Jason

Greg Ambrosius · Post by **Greg Ambrosius** » Thu Jan 20, 2011 11:11 am

Originally posted by Red Sox Nation:

Hi Greg,

Can you give me that final spot in the Super for Saturday night? Looks like some tough competition as usual. Thanks

Jason Done. Thanks Jason

Here we go with one full Super League. Hey, maybe we can fill a second one.

NFBC Super League

Saturday, March 26, 7 pm ET/4 pm PT

1. James Stanard, Edwards, Colorado (LV)

2. Jeff Dobies, Farmingville, New York (NY)

3. Joe Thelen, Garden City, New York

4. Lavoie Gaetan, Varennes, Quebec (LV)

5. Thomas McDevitt, Berkeley, California (LV)

6. Ken Magner, Freehold, New Jersey (LV)

7. Stephen Jupinka, Waldwick, New Jersey (LV)

8. Bryan Fitzgerald, Latham, New York (LV)

9. Robert Particelli, Berwyn, Pennsylvania

10. Glenn Lowy, Farmingville, New York

11. Shawn Johnson, Charlotte, North Carolina

12. Rusty Clark, Centerville, Ohio (LV)

13. Anson Chan, Ft. Lee, New Jersey

14. Rick Thomas, Lewes, Delaware (LV)

15. Jason Duponte, Waltham, Massachusetts

jim.s · Post by **jim.s** » Thu Jan 20, 2011 12:12 pm

I don't like the weekly prize idea for the extra payout on the Ultimate. Too much luck involved and not enough payout to be worth it. How about adding fourth place? Otherwise, just spread over the first three spots.

Hells Satans · Post by **Hells Satans** » Thu Jan 20, 2011 12:15 pm

Originally posted by jim.s:

I don't like the weekly prize idea for the extra payout on the Ultimate. Too much luck involved and not enough payout to be worth it. How about adding fourth place? Otherwise, just spread over the first three spots. I agree with this (didnt notice that the first time). I would split the money between 2nd and 3rd

Da bears · Post by **Da bears** » Thu Jan 20, 2011 12:30 pm

Damn I was too slow signing up for that Saturday night Super League.

Hey Greg add me to the list for the March 27 sunday super league.

Glenneration X · Post by **Glenneration X** » Thu Jan 20, 2011 1:25 pm

Yikes, the Saturday Super looks much too tough for me. Greg, start a Super league for rookies only please and switch me over to that list. Thanks.

Regarding the Ultimate, I agree that the additional funds should be split amonst 2nd and 3rd. I don't think players in these premium leagues need the additional motivation to keep playing. In my Super last year, every last player battled to the end.

However, if you do decide that you want to utilize that extra money as a motivational tool, make it a prize for top finisher for the last 8 weeks total or 4 weeks total. That'll keep people active to the end.

Either way, nice job bumping up the Ultimate.

Glenn

low talkers · Post by **low talkers** » Thu Jan 20, 2011 2:38 pm

Greg, please put me in the Sunday March 27th Super League.

Thanks, Dave Potts

Greg Ambrosius · Post by **Greg Ambrosius** » Fri Jan 21, 2011 3:27 am

Originally posted by low talkers:

Greg, please put me in the Sunday March 27th Super League.

Thanks, Dave Potts Got it Dave and congrats on your Auburn Tigers!! What a hell of a great season.

Greg Ambrosius · Post by **Greg Ambrosius** » Fri Jan 21, 2011 9:05 am

We're making good progress on the Ultimate Draft League on Sunday, March 20th as we now have nine owners signed up for this one. That leaves us with SIX SPOTS LEFT!!! Here's the current signup lists for both events:

NFBC Ultimate Draft League

Las Vegas/Teleconference

Sunday, March 20, 10 am PT/1 pm ET

1. Stephen Jupinka, Waldwick, New Jersey

2. Robert Particelli, Berwyn, Pennsylvania

3. James Stanard, Chatham, New Jersey

4. George Kleemann, Palatine, Illinois

5. KC Cha, Manhattan Beach, California

6. Kevin Bass, Potomoc, Maryland

7. Shawn Johnson, Charlotte, North Carolina

8. Andy Robinson, Alpharetta, Georgia

9. Jim Ferrari, San Diego, California

NFBC Ultimate Auction League

Las Vegas, Venue TBD

Sunday, March 27, 4 pm PT

1. Will Tyrer, Beverly Hills, California

2. James Stanard, Chatham, New Jersey

3. Dave Potts, Auburn, Alabama

4. Lindy Hinkelman, Greencreek, Idaho

5. Andy Robinson, Alpharetta, Georgia

6. Jim Ferrari, San Diego, California

Greg Ambrosius · Post by **Greg Ambrosius** » Fri Jan 21, 2011 10:10 am

Nice. We're now at 10 owners for the Ultimate Draft League. Only FIVE SPOTS LEFT for those who want to join us for this event on Sunday, March 20th at 1 pm ET/10 am PT. I'll be the host out at the Bellagio in Las Vegas and we'll hook up everyone else via teleconference/online. Who else wants in?

Here's the current lineup list for this one:

NFBC Ultimate Draft League

Las Vegas/Teleconference

Sunday, March 20, 10 am PT/1 pm ET

1. Stephen Jupinka, Waldwick, New Jersey

2. Robert Particelli, Berwyn, Pennsylvania

3. James Stanard, Chatham, New Jersey

4. George Kleemann, Palatine, Illinois

5. KC Cha, Manhattan Beach, California

6. Kevin Bass, Potomoc, Maryland

7. Shawn Johnson, Charlotte, North Carolina

8. Andy Robinson, Alpharetta, Georgia

9. Jim Ferrari, San Diego, California

10. Brent Grooms, Cape Coral, Florida

Greg Ambrosius · Post by **Greg Ambrosius** » Fri Jan 21, 2011 10:22 am

Look out, I think we're going to have this Ultimate Draft League filled before my Packers' NFC Championship Game!!

We're at 11 owners now and I think RT is going to slip over to this league as well. Just say the word RT and a spot is yours. Here's the current signup list for what should be a fun, fun Ultimate Draft League:

NFBC Ultimate Draft League

Las Vegas/Teleconference

Sunday, March 20, 10 am PT/1 pm ET

1. Stephen Jupinka, Waldwick, New Jersey

2. Robert Particelli, Berwyn, Pennsylvania

3. James Stanard, Chatham, New Jersey (LV)

4. George Kleemann, Palatine, Illinois

5. KC Cha, Manhattan Beach, California (LV)

6. Kevin Bass, Potomoc, Maryland (LV)

7. Shawn Johnson, Charlotte, North Carolina

8. Andy Robinson, Alpharetta, Georgia (LV)

9. Jim Ferrari, San Diego, California (LV)

10. Brent Grooms, Cape Coral, Florida (LV)

11. Chad Schroeder, Omaha, Nebraska (LV)

12. Rick Thomas, Lewes, Delaware (LV)

[ January 21, 2011, 05:42 PM: Message edited by: Greg Ambrosius ]

751542 · Post by **751542** » Fri Jan 21, 2011 10:56 am

that is correct i will be sliding over to this draft, so i guess i make 12...looks like a tough field!

751542 · Post by **751542** » Fri Jan 21, 2011 10:58 am

of the 11...who is going to be in vegas..i will be live in vegas...anyone else??

Greg Ambrosius · Post by **Greg Ambrosius** » Fri Jan 21, 2011 11:43 am

Originally posted by RoundTrippers:

of the 11...who is going to be in vegas..i will be live in vegas...anyone else?? I think 7 of the 12 will be in Las Vegas RT as I listed above, and Brent may join us there as well. We'll get a normal conference room for this one and hook up via teleconference with the rest. This should roll nicely and I'll provide the drinks and some food for those in LV.

Greg Ambrosius · Post by **Greg Ambrosius** » Fri Jan 21, 2011 2:24 pm

Down to JUST TWO SPOTS LEFT now for the Sunday, March 20th Ultimate Draft League. Wow, these are going fast. Welcome aboard Will. Just let me know if you want one of these final spots. This is going to be a great, great league.

Here's the current signup list:

NFBC Ultimate Draft League

Las Vegas/Teleconference

Sunday, March 20, 10 am PT/1 pm ET

1. Stephen Jupinka, Waldwick, New Jersey

2. Robert Particelli, Berwyn, Pennsylvania

3. James Stanard, Chatham, New Jersey (LV)

4. George Kleemann, Palatine, Illinois

5. KC Cha, Manhattan Beach, California (LV)

6. Kevin Bass, Potomoc, Maryland (LV)

7. Shawn Johnson, Charlotte, North Carolina

8. Andy Robinson, Alpharetta, Georgia (LV)

9. Jim Ferrari, San Diego, California (LV)

10. Brent Grooms, Cape Coral, Florida (LV)

11. Chad Schroeder, Omaha, Nebraska (LV)

12. Rick Thomas, Lewes, Delaware (LV)

13. Will Tyrer, Beverly Hills, California (LV)

Money · Post by **Money** » Fri Jan 21, 2011 4:24 pm

Originally posted by Greg Ambrosius:

Down to JUST TWO SPOTS LEFT now for the Sunday, March 20th Ultimate Draft League. Wow, these are going fast. Welcome aboard Will. Just let me know if you want one of these final spots. This is going to be a great, great league.

Here's the current signup list:

NFBC Ultimate Draft League

Las Vegas/Teleconference

Sunday, March 20, 10 am PT/1 pm ET

1. Stephen Jupinka, Waldwick, New Jersey

2. Robert Particelli, Berwyn, Pennsylvania

3. James Stanard, Chatham, New Jersey (LV)

4. George Kleemann, Palatine, Illinois

5. KC Cha, Manhattan Beach, California (LV)

6. Kevin Bass, Potomoc, Maryland (LV)

7. Shawn Johnson, Charlotte, North Carolina

8. Andy Robinson, Alpharetta, Georgia (LV)

9. Jim Ferrari, San Diego, California (LV)

10. Brent Grooms, Cape Coral, Florida (LV)

11. Chad Schroeder, Omaha, Nebraska (LV)

12. Rick Thomas, Lewes, Delaware (LV)

13. Will Tyrer, Beverly Hills, California (LV) Sign me up for this one Greg, Thanks.

FFBL23 · Post by **FFBL23** » Fri Jan 21, 2011 6:21 pm

Greg,

I'll take the last spot in the Ultimate if it's still there. Thanks.

Kevin

Greg Ambrosius · Post by **Greg Ambrosius** » Sat Jan 22, 2011 1:03 am

Originally posted by Fast Money:

quote:Originally posted by Greg Ambrosius:

Down to JUST TWO SPOTS LEFT now for the Sunday, March 20th Ultimate Draft League. Wow, these are going fast. Welcome aboard Will. Just let me know if you want one of these final spots. This is going to be a great, great league.

Here's the current signup list:

NFBC Ultimate Draft League

Las Vegas/Teleconference

Sunday, March 20, 10 am PT/1 pm ET

1. Stephen Jupinka, Waldwick, New Jersey

2. Robert Particelli, Berwyn, Pennsylvania

3. James Stanard, Chatham, New Jersey (LV)

4. George Kleemann, Palatine, Illinois

5. KC Cha, Manhattan Beach, California (LV)

6. Kevin Bass, Potomoc, Maryland (LV)

7. Shawn Johnson, Charlotte, North Carolina

8. Andy Robinson, Alpharetta, Georgia (LV)

9. Jim Ferrari, San Diego, California (LV)

10. Brent Grooms, Cape Coral, Florida (LV)

11. Chad Schroeder, Omaha, Nebraska (LV)

12. Rick Thomas, Lewes, Delaware (LV)

13. Will Tyrer, Beverly Hills, California (LV) Sign me up for this one Greg, Thanks. [/QUOTE]Okay, I have to work through this one a little bit because this more than filled up while I was sleeping last night!!

I told you we'd fill this before the Packers' game on Sunday!!

Rob Silver emailed me at 8:56 pm CT to grab one of the last Ultimate spots and I had already turned off my Blackberry. Glenn Schroter emailed me at 9:00 CT and then Joe Berg followed with this post after midnight my time. Kevin Kirves followed Joe, thinking he was grabbing the last spot. I do know that Andy Robinson is very tentative for this one, so I'm going to have to get a commitment from him and circle back with everyone currently on the list.

That being said, here's the current signup list and we'll do all we can to work this out and even find another suitable time if needed for the Ultimate Draft League. Thanks folks for making this happen this year because as great as last year was there was a void without the Ultimate Draft League for the first time since 2004.

Here's the current/tentative signup list:

Here's the current signup list:

NFBC Ultimate Draft League

Las Vegas/Teleconference

Sunday, March 20, 10 am PT/1 pm ET

1. Stephen Jupinka, Waldwick, New Jersey

2. Robert Particelli, Berwyn, Pennsylvania

3. James Stanard, Chatham, New Jersey (LV)

4. George Kleemann, Palatine, Illinois

5. KC Cha, Manhattan Beach, California (LV)

6. Kevin Bass, Potomoc, Maryland (LV)

7. Shawn Johnson, Charlotte, North Carolina

8. Jim Ferrari, San Diego, California (LV)

9. Brent Grooms, Cape Coral, Florida (LV)

10. Chad Schroeder, Omaha, Nebraska (LV)

11. Rick Thomas, Lewes, Delaware (LV)

12. Will Tyrer, Beverly Hills, California (LV)

13. Rob Silver, Toronto, Ontario

14. Glenn Schroter, Whitestone, New York

15. Kevin Kirves, Lexington, Kentucky

16. Andy Robinson, Alpharetta, Georgia (LV) (tentative)

17. Glenn Lowy, Farmingville, New York

Thanks all and be patient with me here and we'll figure this out. Or we'll just add a second Ultimate Draft League!! Let's do it!!

[ January 22, 2011, 11:29 AM: Message edited by: Greg Ambrosius ]