Furcal and Thornton

TexasHeat · Post by **TexasHeat** » Wed Apr 13, 2011 10:12 am

And he gets a clean slate in the 10th and walks back to back hitters to lead off 10th

Dirt Dogs · Post by **Dirt Dogs** » Wed Apr 13, 2011 10:12 am

Santos threw alot of pitches on 4/12 yesterday. he was unavailable to pitch today.

he will close next chance! vroom vroom

The Mighty Men · Post by **The Mighty Men** » Wed Apr 13, 2011 10:13 am

I typed that post before I saw Thornton start the inning with a walk, a walk, single = run scored, no outs.

How much more "reasoning" do you want?

Hells Satans · Post by **Hells Satans** » Wed Apr 13, 2011 10:14 am

Originally posted by The Mighty Men:

I typed that post before I saw Thornton start the inning with a walk, a walk, single = run scored, no outs.

How much more "reasoning" do you want?

Hells Satans · Post by **Hells Satans** » Wed Apr 13, 2011 10:15 am

man, thornton stinks

Gekko · Post by **Gekko** » Wed Apr 13, 2011 10:16 am

BOOM!

Da bears · Post by **Da bears** » Wed Apr 13, 2011 10:17 am

Safe to say that Thorton owners can drop him after today.

Da bears · Post by **Da bears** » Wed Apr 13, 2011 10:23 am

Is it me or is Ozzie the dumbest manager in baseball??

Sale should have not pitched today after pitching 2 innings and throwing 35 pitches the night before.

Gekko · Post by **Gekko** » Wed Apr 13, 2011 10:24 am

Originally posted by Da bears:

Is it me or is Ozzie the dumbest manager in baseball??

Sale should have not pitched today after pitching 2 innings and throwing 35 pitches the night before. ozzie clearly overthought the inning. thornton should have started. or even crain.

Gekko · Post by **Gekko** » Wed Apr 13, 2011 10:26 am

it's also possible that ozzie knows thornton has lost his confidence and didn't want him pitching today

Gekko · Post by **Gekko** » Wed Apr 13, 2011 10:27 am

maybe ozzie can add tony pena to the closer mix!!!

Dustmite · Post by **Dustmite** » Wed Apr 13, 2011 10:41 am

Not gonna lie; I'm really enjoying watching Thornton falter...I couldn't understand all of the faith in him before the season.

rockitsauce · Post by **rockitsauce** » Wed Apr 13, 2011 11:24 am

if you listened to Ozzie's post game tirade (classic as usual from the Oz

) he basically said the entire bullpen sucked and didn't do their jobs.

I got Thornton in the 14th rd on 3/8 satellite. On the 29th I had to use a 8th rd pk to get him (furious closer run in that league)....I can't deny I wasn't really sure what I was gonna get w/ him, but now I think I know. He is a left handed Ryan Madsen. $$$ in the 8th and falls apart and inning later

every yr w/ these gawddamn closers

:rolleyes:

Sack · Post by **Sack** » Wed Apr 13, 2011 11:28 am

This mess in on the manager. I bought in on my 12 team leagues, knowing full well that Ozzie could become the problem. Anybody can blow a close game like Thornton did the first time out. However, the next two chances were on his defense, especially Juan Pierre. Instead of putting this to bed, OZZIE has fanned the flames.

His actions today have made matters much worse. As previously stated, he brings Sale in with a three run lead after 2 innings last night. A) tells me that is the guy Ozzie wants to close. B) kicked the already fragile Thornton in the groin. Sale starts to give it up, now he turns to Crain. Jesse didn't get much rope and so the wizard of OZ trots Thornton out. K's Sweeney and than gives up a texas leaguer to tie the game. I now think it will be awhile ( if at all ) until Matt is trusted again. No clue what that crazy man in Chicago is going to do next ......... shame on me for trusting Thornton's skill set with an unpredictable manager at the helm.

[ April 13, 2011, 05:30 PM: Message edited by: Sack ]

Red Sox Nation- · Post by **Red Sox Nation-** » Wed Apr 13, 2011 11:34 am

Originally posted by Sack:

This mess in on the manager. I bought in on my 12 team leagues, knowing full well that Ozzie could become the problem. Anybody can blow a close game like Thornton did the first time out. However, the next two chances were on his defense, especially Juan Pierre. Instead of putting this to bed, OZZIE has fanned the flames.

His actions today have made matters much worse. As previously stated, he brings Sale in with a three run lead after 2 innings last night. A) tells me that is the guy Ozzie wants to close. B) kicked the already fragile Thornton in the groin. Sale starts to give it up, now he turns to Crain. Jesse didn't get much rope and so the wizard of OZ trots Thornton out. K's Sweeney and than gives up a texas leaguer to tie the game. I now think it will be awhile ( if at all ) until Matt is trusted again. No clue what that crazy man in Chicago is going to do next ......... shame on me for trusting Thornton's skill set with an unpredictable manager at the helm. Nice write-up. I agree here. Ozzie has done a terrible job with that bullpen which has quality arms. I used to not trust Pinellia with the Cubs as well. Now I don't trust Ozzie

Gekko · Post by **Gekko** » Wed Apr 13, 2011 12:07 pm

the closer position in Chicago is F'd now. no one will get enough to be playable, short of maybe sale.

sale is obviously the guy they want longterm and from his usage so far, he is the guy ozzie trusts the most. however, i think ozzie will still use crain and santos for some saves when righties dominate the lineup in the 9th and when sale needs a break. and i'm sure thornton will still end up with a handful.

on top of all of that, anyone including sale could be in the doghouse with a single blown save.

good luck chasing saves in this environment. i need to seriously think about dropping thornton in all my leagues (and i got him in most of my big money leagues). sucks, but dem the breaks.

Ricky Vaughn · Post by **Ricky Vaughn** » Wed Apr 13, 2011 12:08 pm

Feeling pretty good about picking up Santos this past week $7.

Gekko · Post by **Gekko** » Wed Apr 13, 2011 12:14 pm

Originally posted by Ricky Vaughn:

Feeling pretty good about picking up Santos this past week $7. ya, i picked him up too, however, even if he closes some games, sale, thornton, and crain aren't going away.

at BEST santos is half a closer.

at WORST sale is half a closer.

i fear sale gets 60-70% of opps, the other guys are left to divide up the scraps (and take up roster spots on our team

)

[ April 13, 2011, 06:15 PM: Message edited by: Gekko ]

Outlaw · Post by **Outlaw** » Wed Apr 13, 2011 12:34 pm

Jose Canseco is being groomed to take Ozzies place.

MadCow Sez · Post by **MadCow Sez** » Wed Apr 13, 2011 1:43 pm

Originally posted by Gekko:

quote:Originally posted by Ricky Vaughn:

Feeling pretty good about picking up Santos this past week $7. ya, i picked him up too, however, even if he closes some games, sale, thornton, and crain aren't going away.

at BEST santos is half a closer.

at WORST sale is half a closer.

i fear sale gets 60-70% of opps, the other guys are left to divide up the scraps (and take up roster spots on our team

) [/QUOTE]Hope you're right....have Sale on just about every team as my half closer.

Hells Satans · Post by **Hells Satans** » Mon Apr 25, 2011 2:52 pm

And your closer is Sergio Santos.

4 out save against Jeter, Granderson, Tex, and ARod is about as tough it gets