Hosmer

whipsaw · Post by **whipsaw** » Thu May 05, 2011 1:14 pm

Called up... what's he go for in FAAB? $300+?

751542 · Post by **751542** » Thu May 05, 2011 1:24 pm

vroom...vroom!!!

Winston's Empire · Post by **Winston's Empire** » Thu May 05, 2011 1:29 pm

751542 · Post by **751542** » Thu May 05, 2011 1:39 pm

all of those frugal faab teams get rewarded with a solid middle of the lineup guy on a suprisingly competitive team...congrats!!

Glenneration X · Post by **Glenneration X** » Thu May 05, 2011 1:45 pm

He'll be overbid just like every mid-season high profile call up.....why do I feel Justin Smoak deja vu?

By the way, Smoak was going for 400+ last year at this time.

whipsaw · Post by **whipsaw** » Thu May 05, 2011 1:46 pm

Originally posted by Glenneration X:

He'll be overbid just like every mid-season high profile call up.....why do I feel Justin Smoak deja vu?

By the way, Smoak was going for 400+ last year at this time. You're right about Smoak, but if I recall correctly the closer shakeup situation was much less serious last year than the first month of this season. I'd bet the average FAAB budget remaining this year is less than last year at this point.

Hells Satans · Post by **Hells Satans** » Thu May 05, 2011 1:48 pm

Melancon probably goes for more.

Hells Satans · Post by **Hells Satans** » Thu May 05, 2011 1:49 pm

Originally posted by Glenneration X:

He'll be overbid just like every mid-season high profile call up.....why do I feel Justin Smoak deja vu?

By the way, Smoak was going for 400+ last year at this time. Good call, Glenn. I was trying to think of who it was last year.

Glenneration X · Post by **Glenneration X** » Thu May 05, 2011 2:04 pm

Originally posted by whipsaw:

quote:Originally posted by Glenneration X:

He'll be overbid just like every mid-season high profile call up.....why do I feel Justin Smoak deja vu?

By the way, Smoak was going for 400+ last year at this time. You're right about Smoak, but if I recall correctly the closer shakeup situation was much less serious last year than the first month of this season. I'd bet the average FAAB budget remaining this year is less than last year at this point. [/QUOTE]Last year had it's share of bullpen drama by this time as well. Francisco was last year's Rodney. The Baltimore pen was as big a mess as the Cards pen. Wood, Nathan, Lidge, Street, etc. Detroit, Minnesota, Seattle all had early pen questions.

Even more importantly who cares about bullpen issues? There's been a ridiculous amount of 3B injuries this year. For those who had Zim, Panda, Freese, etc. this is the replacement corner of their dreams.

Also, let's not forget the week Smoak came up, Ike Davis also came up. You didn't have to go all in for Smoak. You could make a large, but not all-in bid for each of the two rookie 1st basemen and have a decent shot at landing one of them. Who are you landing this week if you need a corner and you miss out on Hosmer? I think it's also pretty safe to say that neither Smoak or Davis was the level of prospect Hosmer is considered.

I just checked and saw that there were multiple 500+ bids on Smoak & Davis last year. I'm guessing you'd better go all-in or close if you want to be sure to land him.

I'm not pulling a Gekko here, just calling it how I see it.

Glenneration X · Post by **Glenneration X** » Thu May 05, 2011 2:06 pm

Originally posted by Hells Satans:

Melancon probably goes for more. No chance.

whipsaw · Post by **whipsaw** » Thu May 05, 2011 2:11 pm

Originally posted by Glenneration X:

quote:Originally posted by Hells Satans:

Melancon probably goes for more. No chance. [/QUOTE]Agreed, no chance. And I REALLY like Melancon.

751542 · Post by **751542** » Thu May 05, 2011 2:41 pm

Originally posted by whipsaw:

quote:Originally posted by Glenneration X:

quote:Originally posted by Hells Satans:

Melancon probably goes for more. No chance. [/QUOTE]Agreed, no chance. And I REALLY like Melancon. [/QUOTE]vroom vroom!!

751542 · Post by **751542** » Thu May 05, 2011 2:44 pm

wait til gekko chimes in...we all will be missing out on 2 allstars(this year of course) and future hall of famers!! as glenn stated, one must go "all in" for these 2 studs!!

Glenneration X · Post by **Glenneration X** » Thu May 05, 2011 2:58 pm

Originally posted by RoundTrippers:

wait til gekko chimes in...we all will be missing out on 2 allstars(this year of course) and future hall of famers!! as glenn stated, one must go "all in" for these 2 studs!!

Yikes!! Please don't put me in that class of hype artists. I just did my homework to see if what it would take to buy him for my leagues where he's available.......

Top 5 bids for Ike Davis 4/26/10:

471

503

519

531

536

Top 5 bids for Justin Smoak 4/26/10:

505

513

515

557

613!!!!

No min bets there.

I also don't expect to see Gekko joining this thread. He was heavily invested in Kila, I'm sure he's hoping noone else thinks Hosmer's worthy of a significant bid.

Hells Satans · Post by **Hells Satans** » Thu May 05, 2011 3:11 pm

And none of those bids was worth what was spent. Smoak was an absolute waste of money and Ike Davis was decent but no better than having someone like Garrett Jones or Lyle Overbay.

I am curious about what people really expect from Hosmer.

Glenneration X · Post by **Glenneration X** » Thu May 05, 2011 3:31 pm

Originally posted by Hells Satans:

And none of those bids was worth what was spent. Granted and that was my argument against Gekko while he was hyping Smoak as if he were Gehrig last year at this time.

Two differences though.

First, while both Smoak and Davis were intriguing prospects, neither came with the pedigree or universal high ranking that comes with Hosmer. Baseball America has him as their 8th best prospect in baseball, Minor League Analyst has him as the 8th best fantasy prospect, and Sickels has him as the 7th best. He comes with better credentials than either of the two last year.

Secondly, because of how the corner positions have been diluted this year by injury, there's more teams with a need for a Hosmer type. Just this week, three more corners bit the dust long term.

I just see a perfect storm for crazy bids. I could be wrong, we'll see on Sunday.

I will say that though I'll be making bids on him where I can use an upgrade at corner, I can't afford to make a 500 play on him for any of the teams he'll be available for me.......nor would I even if I could afford to.

Hells Satans · Post by **Hells Satans** » Thu May 05, 2011 3:46 pm

Disagree re Smoak and Hosmer. Smoak was just as hyped (13th ranked prospect in MLB by BA in a MUCH better class of players - Strasburg, Posey, Stanton, Heyward, Santana, and Feliz were all in top 10; Hosmer is 8th) and was going to play in a hitter's park in a great lineup.

Smoak has every bit the pedigree that Hosmer does. It's just that baseball is generally hard for all 22 year old rookies - especially when it comes to power numbers.

I think he's going to be awesome eventually. I doubt I will be able to afford him this year because, I agree, he will be overbid.

[ May 05, 2011, 09:48 PM: Message edited by: Hells Satans ]

Outlaw · Post by **Outlaw** » Thu May 05, 2011 3:52 pm

I'll save my money for down the road when its needed... 20 or so more weeks to go.... no 21 yr old rookie is worth anything near 100.00 - I hope he goes for 500.00 or more in every league I'm in... Besides Braun a few years ago, no 21 yr old ever had major stats being called up in May for the rest of the season, Not Arod, Not Griffey, no one.... i suppose those bidding upwards of 500 are doing so to correct drafting choices.

Glenneration X · Post by **Glenneration X** » Thu May 05, 2011 4:05 pm

Originally posted by Outlaw:

no 21 yr old rookie is worth anything near 100.00 Ummmm, how old were Jason Heyward, Starlin Castro, and Mike Stanton last year?

The Mighty Men · Post by **The Mighty Men** » Thu May 05, 2011 4:17 pm

Originally posted by Outlaw:

I'll save my money for down the road when its needed... 20 or so more weeks to go.... no 21 yr old rookie is worth anything near 100.00 - I hope he goes for 500.00 or more in every league I'm in... Besides Braun a few years ago, no 21 yr old ever had major stats being called up in May for the rest of the season, Not Arod, Not Griffey, no one.... i suppose those bidding upwards of 500 are doing so to correct drafting choices. Sounds good to me! Thank you!

The Mighty Men · Post by **The Mighty Men** » Thu May 05, 2011 4:18 pm

Originally posted by Glenneration X:

quote:Originally posted by Outlaw:

no 21 yr old rookie is worth anything near 100.00 Ummmm, how old were Jason Heyward, Starlin Castro, and Mike Stanton last year? [/QUOTE]Glenn, just let Outlaw save his $ to the end of the year. No problem. He get a SOLID 30 days of Stats from a September callup (maybe).

Thunder · Post by **Thunder** » Thu May 05, 2011 5:07 pm

Originally posted by whipsaw:

Called up... what's he go for in FAAB? $300+? have had him in reserve since day 1..

MLBC1

[ May 05, 2011, 11:08 PM: Message edited by: Kentucky Reign ]

Gekko · Post by **Gekko** » Thu May 05, 2011 5:12 pm

Originally posted by Glenneration X:

I also don't expect to see Gekko joining this thread. He was heavily invested in Kila, I'm sure he's hoping noone else thinks Hosmer's worthy of a significant bid. i want hosmer bids as HiGh as possible!!!! starting bid is $300. anything less, don't even bother

Gekko · Post by **Gekko** » Thu May 05, 2011 5:15 pm

Originally posted by Glenneration X:

I'm not pulling a Gekko here, just calling it how I see it. you're up to 6 posts already in this thread with the general theme that hosmer is better than smoak and davis. pump away glenn, pump away!!!

Gekko · Post by **Gekko** » Thu May 05, 2011 5:17 pm

Originally posted by Glenneration X:

I also don't expect to see Gekko joining this thread. He was heavily invested in Kila, KK, MRAM and thornton were on a lot of my teams. all of them turned out to be zero's or negative values. tough to do well when one has so many misses.