Porcello

Gekko · Post by **Gekko** » Fri Jun 17, 2011 2:29 pm

Porcello started in over 50% of leagues??? With 1 start AT colorado?

rkulaski · Post by **rkulaski** » Fri Jun 17, 2011 5:43 pm

can't blame those owners. rockies haven't been hitting too well lately. coors isn't what it used to be. outside of one bad start against boston, porcello has been solid the last couple of months.

Gekko · Post by **Gekko** » Fri Jun 17, 2011 5:48 pm

Originally posted by rkulaski:

can't blame those owners. rockies haven't been hitting too well lately. coors isn't what it used to be. outside of one bad start against boston, porcello has been solid the last couple of months. as the summer wears on, runs ramp up in colorado. last four games at the end of last week...

in colorado against dumpy dodgers, rocks gave up: 7, 5, 11, 10.

DOUGHBOYS · Post by **DOUGHBOYS** » Fri Jun 17, 2011 6:36 pm

And Doug Davis throttles the Yanks....

You only ever really know AFTER the game.

Gekko · Post by **Gekko** » Sat Jun 18, 2011 12:32 am

Originally posted by DOUGHBOYS:

And Doug Davis throttles the Yanks....

You only ever really know AFTER the game. before the game, it's all about playing the %'s

mattjb · Post by **mattjb** » Sat Jun 18, 2011 1:43 am

was on my bench thank god.

DOUGHBOYS · Post by **DOUGHBOYS** » Sat Jun 18, 2011 3:27 am

Originally posted by Gekko:

quote:Originally posted by DOUGHBOYS:

And Doug Davis throttles the Yanks....

You only ever really know AFTER the game. before the game, it's all about playing the %'s [/QUOTE]Who's percentage?

Not all teams are created equal.

Porcello is an 'easy sit' for some teams.

A fence sitter for others.

And a 'have to start', because of a questionable staff for others

You posted AFTER Porcello had been blown up.

Tell us a pitcher who shouldn't be started today or tomorrow that is about 50-50 BEFORE the fact.

Monday Morning quarterbacks are always 100% correct.

I don't have Porcello on any big teams. Posts like this just rub me the wrong way.

rockitsauce · Post by **rockitsauce** » Sat Jun 18, 2011 4:04 am

Originally posted by DOUGHBOYS:

Monday Morning quarterbacks are always 100% correct.

[/QB]amen

Gekko · Post by **Gekko** » Sat Jun 18, 2011 4:51 am

Originally posted by DOUGHBOYS:

Who's percentage?

Not all teams are created equal.

Porcello is an 'easy sit' for some teams.

A fence sitter for others.

And a 'have to start', because of a questionable staff for others

You posted AFTER Porcello had been blown up.

Tell us a pitcher who shouldn't be started today or tomorrow that is about 50-50 BEFORE the fact.

Monday Morning quarterbacks are always 100% correct.

I don't have Porcello on any big teams. Posts like this just rub me the wrong way. i have porcello on 4 or 5 teams. i benched him in all of them. i even started a middle RP over him. porcello is a decent starter, but by no means is he a MUST start every week.

the % play is to sit him and most other SP that are playing in colorado. same with most SP playing in yankee stadium, texas, etc. porcello was a ZERO percent start in my book...which is why i was shocked that over 50% started him.

go get a massage doughy. they should rub you the right way

Cocktails and Dreams · Post by **Cocktails and Dreams** » Sat Jun 18, 2011 5:02 am

Gekko has proven that he can predict pitching better than most. The best example was when he sat a two start Padilla that he drafted for a waiver wire one start Moyer. Ofcourse, you might argue that was Monday morning quarterbacking involved also.

Money · Post by **Money** » Sat Jun 18, 2011 5:16 am

Went with him on the one good team that I have. He'd been pitching well of late having shut down Texas in Texas last week. Rolled the dice and lost. Leyland left him in to long. He should've been done after walking the pitcher in the second inning. It was obvious he was locating nothing. Porcello is headed back to waiver wire (double play league) this week.

Gekko · Post by **Gekko** » Sat Jun 18, 2011 5:40 am

Originally posted by Cocktails and Dreams:

Gekko has proven that he can predict pitching better than most. The best example was when he sat a two start Padilla that he drafted for a waiver wire one start Moyer. Ofcourse, you might argue that was Monday morning quarterbacking involved also. hey, i coulda have been in an alleged partnership with Amtrak.

Glenneration X · Post by **Glenneration X** » Sat Jun 18, 2011 5:44 am

The truth of the matter is that Gekko is right and the play was to sit Porcello this week if you had other options. For the one team I still have him on, he's on the bench. However, I did have better options.

Doughy's point that there are likely many teams out there without better options or even other options considering every team likely has most of their bench spots filled with DL'd players in the year of the injury has to be considered. I'm starting a number of players this week where if I had other choices, I wouldn't be.

Joe, as far as you starting Porcello on a gut call. Don't beat yourself up. We all make gut calls. Last year around this time with Brandon Morrow struggling, I started him in a 2-start week against the Yanks & Rockies in a week where the majority of others were likely benching him. He pitched lights out both games which started his run into fantasy relevance. This year, I tried the same with Javier Vazquez and watched him get mutiliated both starts. Gut calls sometimes come up roses, sometimes they stink of something else. Either way, we all make them sometimes.

[ June 18, 2011, 12:00 PM: Message edited by: Glenneration X ]

Money · Post by **Money** » Sat Jun 18, 2011 6:14 am

Originally posted by Glenneration X:

The truth of the matter is that Gekko is right and the play was to sit Porcello this week if you had other options. For the one team I still have him on, he's on the bench. However, I did have better options.

Doughy's point that there are likely many teams out there without better options or even other options considering every team likely has most of their bench spots filled with DL'd players in the year of the injury has to be considered. I'm starting a number of players this week where if I had other choices, I wouldn't be.

Joe, as far as you starting Porcello on a gut call. Don't beat yourself up. We all make gut calls. Last year around this time with Brandon Morrow struggling, I started him in a 2-start week against the Yanks & Rockies in a week where the majority of others were likely benching him. He pitched lights out both games which started his run into fantasy relevance. This year, I tried the same with Javier Vazquez and watched him get mutiliated both starts. Gut calls sometimes come up roses, sometimes they stink of something else. Either way, we all make them sometimes.

Thanks Glenn, you just have to take your lumps and move on. We all know we a have shellacking coming every now and then. It seems to me when you get down deciding the last pitcher to throw on any given week, their will be many weeks that you throw in a questionable start. This one just didn't work out.

Cocktails and Dreams · Post by **Cocktails and Dreams** » Sat Jun 18, 2011 8:08 am

Originally posted by Glenneration X:

The truth of the matter is that Gekko is right and the play was to sit Porcello this week if you had other options. For the one team I still have him on, he's on the bench. However, I did have better options.

Doughy's point that there are likely many teams out there without better options or even other options considering every team likely has most of their bench spots filled with DL'd players in the year of the injury has to be considered. I'm starting a number of players this week where if I had other choices, I wouldn't be.

Joe, as far as you starting Porcello on a gut call. Don't beat yourself up. We all make gut calls. Last year around this time with Brandon Morrow struggling, I started him in a 2-start week against the Yanks & Rockies in a week where the majority of others were likely benching him. He pitched lights out both games which started his run into fantasy relevance. This year, I tried the same with Javier Vazquez and watched him get mutiliated both starts. Gut calls sometimes come up roses, sometimes they stink of something else. Either way, we all make them sometimes.

I took Doughboy's post to also mean that it serves little purpose to come on here after the game and boast about how smart you are and how stupid others are. Poor taste in my opinion. Most people choose to use the board as a place to rant about the debacles their team is or has encountered. Most don't try to rub salt in the wounds of half the folks that started him. Would I have started Porcello if I had him and could help it? No, but again I don't think that is the main point here.

Cocktails and Dreams · Post by **Cocktails and Dreams** » Sat Jun 18, 2011 8:13 am

Originally posted by Gekko:

quote:Originally posted by Cocktails and Dreams:

Gekko has proven that he can predict pitching better than most. The best example was when he sat a two start Padilla that he drafted for a waiver wire one start Moyer. Ofcourse, you might argue that was Monday morning quarterbacking involved also. hey, i coulda have been in an alleged partnership with Amtrak. [/QUOTE]You must have poor memory on how that unfolded. The fact that you are the only person around that thinks I did anything wrong tells me all I need to know. . Not even Raiders does. That should tell you all you need to know. You are either badly misinformed, lying about your belief I did anything wrong, or are simply wrong. Don't much care which.

DOUGHBOYS · Post by **DOUGHBOYS** » Sat Jun 18, 2011 8:19 am

Originally posted by Cocktails and Dreams:

quote:Originally posted by Glenneration X:

The truth of the matter is that Gekko is right and the play was to sit Porcello this week if you had other options. For the one team I still have him on, he's on the bench. However, I did have better options.

Doughy's point that there are likely many teams out there without better options or even other options considering every team likely has most of their bench spots filled with DL'd players in the year of the injury has to be considered. I'm starting a number of players this week where if I had other choices, I wouldn't be.

Joe, as far as you starting Porcello on a gut call. Don't beat yourself up. We all make gut calls. Last year around this time with Brandon Morrow struggling, I started him in a 2-start week against the Yanks & Rockies in a week where the majority of others were likely benching him. He pitched lights out both games which started his run into fantasy relevance. This year, I tried the same with Javier Vazquez and watched him get mutiliated both starts. Gut calls sometimes come up roses, sometimes they stink of something else. Either way, we all make them sometimes.

I took Doughboy's post to also mean that it serves little purpose to come on here after the game and boast about how smart you are and how stupid others are. Poor taste in my opinion. Most people choose to use the board as a place to rant about the debacles their team is or has encountered. Most don't try to rub salt in the wounds of half the folks that started him. Would I have started Porcello if I had him and could help it? No, but again I don't think that is the main point here. [/QUOTE]BINGO!

Gekko · Post by **Gekko** » Sat Jun 18, 2011 8:44 am

Originally posted by Cocktails and Dreams:

quote:Originally posted by Glenneration X:

The truth of the matter is that Gekko is right and the play was to sit Porcello this week if you had other options. For the one team I still have him on, he's on the bench. However, I did have better options.

Doughy's point that there are likely many teams out there without better options or even other options considering every team likely has most of their bench spots filled with DL'd players in the year of the injury has to be considered. I'm starting a number of players this week where if I had other choices, I wouldn't be.

Joe, as far as you starting Porcello on a gut call. Don't beat yourself up. We all make gut calls. Last year around this time with Brandon Morrow struggling, I started him in a 2-start week against the Yanks & Rockies in a week where the majority of others were likely benching him. He pitched lights out both games which started his run into fantasy relevance. This year, I tried the same with Javier Vazquez and watched him get mutiliated both starts. Gut calls sometimes come up roses, sometimes they stink of something else. Either way, we all make them sometimes.

I took Doughboy's post to also mean that it serves little purpose to come on here after the game and boast about how smart you are and how stupid others are. Poor taste in my opinion. Most people choose to use the board as a place to rant about the debacles their team is or has encountered. Most don't try to rub salt in the wounds of half the folks that started him. Would I have started Porcello if I had him and could help it? No, but again I don't think that is the main point here. [/QUOTE]dough's post was made before i said anything about about me personally owning porcello. reading comprehension isn't your strong suit is it chad

Gekko · Post by **Gekko** » Sat Jun 18, 2011 8:47 am

Originally posted by Cocktails and Dreams:

quote:Originally posted by Gekko:

quote:Originally posted by Cocktails and Dreams:

Gekko has proven that he can predict pitching better than most. The best example was when he sat a two start Padilla that he drafted for a waiver wire one start Moyer. Ofcourse, you might argue that was Monday morning quarterbacking involved also. hey, i coulda have been in an alleged partnership with Amtrak. [/QUOTE]You must have poor memory on how that unfolded. The fact that you are the only person around that thinks I did anything wrong tells me all I need to know. . Not even Raiders does. That should tell you all you need to know. You are either badly misinformed, lying about your belief I did anything wrong, or are simply wrong. Don't much care which. [/QUOTE]point out in my post where i said YOU DID ANYTHING WRONG?? your quick trigger gets you again chad. reading comp...

you are an instigator chad, which is why you brought up the padilla situation which was LAST year. you don't want to let some things go and then you come in and stir the pot. guess that's how you were raised

[ June 18, 2011, 02:49 PM: Message edited by: Gekko ]

Dub · Post by **Dub** » Sat Jun 18, 2011 9:12 am

Gek- you made a point of saying you started Rubby In Colorado. A questionable call that worked out. ...What is the difference?

Chest Rockwell · Post by **Chest Rockwell** » Sat Jun 18, 2011 9:16 am

Originally posted by DOUGHBOYS:

quote:Originally posted by Cocktails and Dreams:

quote:Originally posted by Glenneration X:

The truth of the matter is that Gekko is right and the play was to sit Porcello this week if you had other options. For the one team I still have him on, he's on the bench. However, I did have better options.

Doughy's point that there are likely many teams out there without better options or even other options considering every team likely has most of their bench spots filled with DL'd players in the year of the injury has to be considered. I'm starting a number of players this week where if I had other choices, I wouldn't be.

Joe, as far as you starting Porcello on a gut call. Don't beat yourself up. We all make gut calls. Last year around this time with Brandon Morrow struggling, I started him in a 2-start week against the Yanks & Rockies in a week where the majority of others were likely benching him. He pitched lights out both games which started his run into fantasy relevance. This year, I tried the same with Javier Vazquez and watched him get mutiliated both starts. Gut calls sometimes come up roses, sometimes they stink of something else. Either way, we all make them sometimes.

I took Doughboy's post to also mean that it serves little purpose to come on here after the game and boast about how smart you are and how stupid others are. Poor taste in my opinion. Most people choose to use the board as a place to rant about the debacles their team is or has encountered. Most don't try to rub salt in the wounds of half the folks that started him. Would I have started Porcello if I had him and could help it? No, but again I don't think that is the main point here. [/QUOTE]BINGO! [/QUOTE]Double bingo my personal favorites are right after draft day. The you see this is why I avoided this player posts who struggle out of the gate.

Gekko · Post by **Gekko** » Sat Jun 18, 2011 9:27 am

Originally posted by Dub:

Gek- you made a point of saying you started Rubby In Colorado. A questionable call that worked out. ...What is the difference? difference between porcello/rubby.

rubby had two starts that week. porcello only pitched once (in colorado). the chance at rubby getting double digit K's (and a win) made me bite in one of the two leagues i had him in. in the other league, i sat him for the colorado start

furthermore, de la rosa's K rate is much greater than porcello's. if i had to pitch someone at colorado, i'd much prefer a K pitcher to a contact pitcher

would i start de la rosa if he only pitched once at colorado....No.

[ June 18, 2011, 03:28 PM: Message edited by: Gekko ]

Gekko · Post by **Gekko** » Sat Jun 18, 2011 9:39 am

recently there was a recent thread called "Garcia". it was stared by Hells Satan. his first post was:

Originally posted by Hells Satans:

Man, am i glad he's on my bench in my ME and Ultimate league. Jeez. Looks like around 80% of ME owners left him in. funny, but i didn't see dough, chad or chest playing bingo in that thread.

Dub · Post by **Dub** » Sat Jun 18, 2011 9:48 am

Originally posted by Gekko:

quote:Originally posted by Dub:

Gek- you made a point of saying you started Rubby In Colorado. A questionable call that worked out. ...What is the difference? difference between porcello/rubby.

rubby had two starts that week. porcello only pitched once (in colorado). the chance at rubby getting double digit K's (and a win) made me bite in one of the two leagues i had him in. in the other league, i sat him for the colorado start

furthermore, de la rosa's K rate is much greater than porcello's. if i had to pitch someone at colorado, i'd much prefer a K pitcher to a contact pitcher

would i start de la rosa if he only pitched once at colorado....No. [/QUOTE]The other start was against the Phillies in their Band Box- But I hear ya.

Chest Rockwell · Post by **Chest Rockwell** » Sat Jun 18, 2011 10:24 am

Originally posted by Gekko:

recently there was a recent thread called "Garcia". it was stared by Hells Satan. his first post was:

quote:Originally posted by Hells Satans:

Man, am i glad he's on my bench in my ME and Ultimate league. Jeez. Looks like around 80% of ME owners left him in. funny, but i didn't see dough, chad or chest playing bingo in that thread.

[/QUOTE]The award in this case goes for a body of work not just one post.