Proposed 2012 NFBC Rules Changes

Rog · Post by **Rog** » Thu Oct 06, 2011 6:12 pm

i PERSONALLY DID NOT LIKE THE LAST 2 WEEKS OF MOVES FOR IT LET THE PEOPLE STILL IN IT MAKE UP LATE POINTS AGAINST THE TEAMS THAT GAVE UP DURING THE LAST FEW WEEKS.THUS AFFECTING THE PEOPLE THAT WERE ALREADY LEADING CERTAIN CATEGORIES.

Baseball Furies · Post by **Baseball Furies** » Thu Oct 06, 2011 6:14 pm

Since it was asked of us, I'll chime in. One annoying little glitch that has come up since the option to swap out injured pitchers for the weekend was allowed has to do with choosing a pitcher to rotate in instead, putting him in, and later changing your mind to swap your sub for a different pitcher for any of various reasons that can arise prior to the start of the weekend games. Cannot be done since the sub does not have injured status, so you're stuck. There has to be someway to remedy this scenario.

meanguy · Post by **meanguy** » Thu Oct 06, 2011 7:06 pm

I would like the ability to take over the world, enslaving all of my enemies, in addition to making love to Angelina Jolie.

Gekko · Post by **Gekko** » Thu Oct 06, 2011 11:15 pm

Originally posted by meanguy:

I would like the ability to take over the world, enslaving all of my enemies, in addition to making love to Angelina Jolie. you sound like someone who wants to grow up to be a banker

Greg Ambrosius · Post by **Greg Ambrosius** » Thu Oct 06, 2011 11:21 pm

Originally posted by Gekko:

quote:Originally posted by meanguy:

I would like the ability to take over the world, enslaving all of my enemies, in addition to making love to Angelina Jolie. you sound like someone who wants to grow up to be a banker [/QUOTE]I think it means that this thread has gone from a serious discussion of rules updates for 2012 to a wish list of everything the kids want for Christmas.

If there are no other RULES CHANGES that folks foresee, then we can move past Angelina Jolie and get back to concentrating on those ANONYMOUS owners.

Glenneration X · Post by **Glenneration X** » Fri Oct 07, 2011 12:12 am

Originally posted by Greg Ambrosius:

quote:Originally posted by Gekko:

quote:Originally posted by meanguy:

I would like the ability to take over the world, enslaving all of my enemies, in addition to making love to Angelina Jolie. you sound like someone who wants to grow up to be a banker [/QUOTE]I think it means that this thread has gone from a serious discussion of rules updates for 2012 to a wish list of everything the kids want for Christmas.

If there are no other RULES CHANGES that folks foresee, then we can move past Angelina Jolie and get back to concentrating on those ANONYMOUS owners.

[/QUOTE]I would like to enslave the ANONYMOUS owners and make love to Angelina Jolie.

Just in case my wife or future employer is reading this.......

Signed,

Anonymous

Ryan C · Post by **Ryan C** » Fri Oct 07, 2011 5:43 am

I'd like to see a 10th P slot added to starting lineups in all leagues. I also think it wouldn't be a bad idea to have it break down as 8 P's and 2 RP.

DOUGHBOYS · Post by **DOUGHBOYS** » Fri Oct 07, 2011 5:54 am

Originally posted by Ryan C:

I'd like to see a 10th P slot added to starting lineups in all leagues. I also think it wouldn't be a bad idea to have it break down as 8 P's and 2 RP. A lot of problems with the sp and rp designations. What if I drafted Ogando as a starter and he sets up? What about swing men, starter or reliever?

What if a pitcher starts the year as one and changes to the other.

I can't get behind limiting pitchers with designations.

Ryan C · Post by **Ryan C** » Fri Oct 07, 2011 6:02 am

Any thoughts on a 10th active P slot free and clear of designations?

ToddZ · Post by **ToddZ** » Fri Oct 07, 2011 6:03 am

Originally posted by DOUGHBOYS:

quote:Originally posted by Ryan C:

I'd like to see a 10th P slot added to starting lineups in all leagues. I also think it wouldn't be a bad idea to have it break down as 8 P's and 2 RP. A lot of problems with the sp and rp designations. What if I drafted Ogando as a starter and he sets up? What about swing men, starter or reliever?

What if a pitcher starts the year as one and changes to the other.

I can't get behind limiting pitchers with designations. [/QUOTE]Agree - either have an innings minimum (and maximum, if desired) or designate SP/RP but not both and since the latter can result in owners gaming the system, the former is preferred.

DOUGHBOYS · Post by **DOUGHBOYS** » Fri Oct 07, 2011 6:10 am

Originally posted by Ryan C:

Any thoughts on a 10th active P slot free and clear of designations? My first inclination would be to ask, why?

ToddZ · Post by **ToddZ** » Fri Oct 07, 2011 6:12 am

The one rule change I would like considered has been mentioned already and that is to have the available player pool be consistent for every league, regardless if the player was drafted and dropped in some leagues.

That said, there would need to be discussion with respect to who is available as a free agent.

Only players on the 25 man roster?

Only players that were on the 25 man roster at some point of the season?

Only players on the 40 man roster?

Anyone who has appeared in a minor League game?

I'd prefer 25 man roster at some point in the season. If a minor leaguer is drafted and dropped before he is promoted, my preference would be that he is not available to be picked up in that league.

my second preference would be anyone on the 40 man roster so everyone has a shot at the "hot" minor leaguer.

ToddZ · Post by **ToddZ** » Fri Oct 07, 2011 6:18 am

Originally posted by Ryan C:

Any thoughts on a 10th active P slot free and clear of designations? Personally ambivalent. Value is relative, adding a 10th spot just adjusts pitchers' values and drafting strategy a little. I don't think it makes the game better or worse, just different.

That said, I think the next "major" global rules adoption (other than perhaps more leagues switching to OBP) is the addition of a 24th roster spot that can be filled by either a hitter or a pitcher. Many private leagues already do this.

Ryan C · Post by **Ryan C** » Fri Oct 07, 2011 6:54 am

I am glad to see Dan and Todd weigh in on my suggestion, because I think it's worthy since a 10 man staff has been used elsewhere - so there are those out there who can comment on it's benefits and faults.

My reasoning for having 2 RP designations would be to make it harder for teams to toss Closers back into the free agent pool late in the year. This usually happens in late July/early August when some team decides to punt saves and chase other categories. One or two teams in these leagues will benefit by scooping up saves for a late season push that can have major impact on league and overall races. If you are forced to start two RP - I think these owners will be less inclined to use this strategy.

I will admit that I didn't think about the implications beyond this scenario.

As for the 10th spot - I am not advocating increasing overall roster size - just adding an extra active slot to play with. I actually prefer Todd's idea - because I think that would be a lot of fun to play with.

[ October 07, 2011, 01:10 PM: Message edited by: Ryan C ]

Fourslot40 · Post by **Fourslot40** » Fri Oct 07, 2011 12:47 pm

I think that Mango gelato should be the dessert served at the Bellagio for all live drafts. Make it a rule... where's Chris Schinker to second that!

Woooooooooooooo!