All Time Draft Thread

DOUGHBOYS · Post by **DOUGHBOYS** » Thu Oct 27, 2011 10:31 am

Originally posted by Gekko:

quote:Originally posted by DOUGHBOYS:

I can also give confirmation that the player selected is yours if you'd like. please [/QUOTE]You got it.

Suburban Strugglers · Post by **Suburban Strugglers** » Thu Oct 27, 2011 10:32 am

Works for me guys, thanks for clearing it up.

Navel Lint · Post by **Navel Lint** » Thu Oct 27, 2011 10:33 am

Originally posted by DOUGHBOYS:

I will send an e-mail simply stating 'you're up in the All time Draft'.

If it is a player already taken, I will send another stating 'Pick again'.

I can also give confirmation that the player selected is yours if you'd like. Thanks for doing this Dan.

I would like to offer you a cut of my winnings

when this is done, but it will go directly into the Main Event. And since I've never collected there, looks like your out of luck

[ October 27, 2011, 04:35 PM: Message edited by: Navel Lint ]

DOUGHBOYS · Post by **DOUGHBOYS** » Thu Oct 27, 2011 10:34 am

Originally posted by JohnP:

Maybe a dumb question but what happens with the running standings / statistics as it pertains to the blind rounds? Category stats are posted and we all can figure out who drafted who? I believe blind rounds will be added at the conclusion of the draft.

JohnP · Post by **JohnP** » Thu Oct 27, 2011 10:35 am

Originally posted by DOUGHBOYS:

quote:Originally posted by JohnP:

Maybe a dumb question but what happens with the running standings / statistics as it pertains to the blind rounds? Category stats are posted and we all can figure out who drafted who? I believe blind rounds will be added at the conclusion of the draft. [/QUOTE]Ah. Got it. Indeed it was a dumb question. Thanks.

G@mblor · Post by **G@mblor** » Thu Oct 27, 2011 10:38 am

Originally posted by JohnP:

Maybe a dumb question but what happens with the running standings / statistics as it pertains to the blind rounds? Category stats are posted and we all can figure out who drafted who? I had the understanding that the year for each player will be unknown. If that is the case then I'm guessing nothing will be posted for the blind rounds other than which players were taken.

Navel Lint · Post by **Navel Lint** » Thu Oct 27, 2011 10:40 am

Originally posted by G@mblor:

quote:Originally posted by JohnP:

Maybe a dumb question but what happens with the running standings / statistics as it pertains to the blind rounds? Category stats are posted and we all can figure out who drafted who? I had the understanding that the year for each player will be unknown. If that is the case then I'm guessing nothing will be posted for the blind rounds other than which players were taken. [/QUOTE]No.

At the end of the round Dan will post the player and season taken, we still won't know who got who

DOUGHBOYS · Post by **DOUGHBOYS** » Thu Oct 27, 2011 10:41 am

Originally posted by G@mblor:

quote:Originally posted by JohnP:

Maybe a dumb question but what happens with the running standings / statistics as it pertains to the blind rounds? Category stats are posted and we all can figure out who drafted who? I had the understanding that the year for each player will be unknown. If that is the case then I'm guessing nothing will be posted for the blind rounds other than which players were taken. [/QUOTE]I will keep the years of the players to myself.

Alphabetically at the end of the round, I will release the players names that have been chosen.

Gekko · Post by **Gekko** » Thu Oct 27, 2011 10:43 am

Navel Lint · Post by **Navel Lint** » Thu Oct 27, 2011 10:43 am

I guess we will defer to Shawn

GLG20 · Post by **GLG20** » Thu Oct 27, 2011 11:10 am

Sorry guys.

SWAMPED at work today and just getting a chance to read through these messages.

Will scratch the names off, scroll through my (pitchers) list and post in the next hour or so.

Also, I think the definition of "collusion" involves an agreement between 2 or more people to defraud or obtain something illegally. "Agreement" and "2 or more" being the operative word/phrase... Not to be disagreeable, just thought I'd make that distinction... maybe this is why I'm so popular at parties!!!

Navel Lint · Post by **Navel Lint** » Thu Oct 27, 2011 11:12 am

While we wait…………….

Of the players chosen to this point, I think Steve Carlton had one of the ugliest ends to his career that I can remember. I remember him playing out the string with CHI and MIN, but I forgot that he also worked SF and CLE in there.

Over his last three seasons, he was 15-29 with a 5.72 era.

DOUGHBOYS · Post by **DOUGHBOYS** » Thu Oct 27, 2011 11:13 am

Thanks Russ, spend all your money on next year's draft. You're one of the guys I continually root for.

I'll be out some tonight.

Don't fret if it's awhile, I'll be here all day tomorrow and we should be able to complete the blind round by Friday night if we're timely.

rockitsauce · Post by **rockitsauce** » Thu Oct 27, 2011 11:53 am

Originally posted by Navel Lint:

While we wait…………….

Of the players chosen to this point, I think Steve Carlton had one of the ugliest ends to his career that I can remember. I remember him playing out the string with CHI and MIN, but I forgot that he also worked SF and CLE in there.

Over his last three seasons, he was 15-29 with a 5.72 era.

That's quite enough of that thank you very little The Indians card looks like he's waiting for a new ball (after serving one up!)

Carlton was notorious for not speaking w/ the media...always wondered why he hung around so (too) long. It doesn't matter, he's still one of THE best lefthanders ever to throw a baseball.

G@mblor · Post by **G@mblor** » Thu Oct 27, 2011 11:56 am

Originally posted by GLG20:

Sorry guys.

SWAMPED at work today and just getting a chance to read through these messages.

Will scratch the names off, scroll through my (pitchers) list and post in the next hour or so.

Also, I think the definition of "collusion" involves an agreement between 2 or more people to defraud or obtain something illegally. "Agreement" and "2 or more" being the operative word/phrase... Not to be disagreeable, just thought I'd make that distinction... maybe this is why I'm so popular at parties!!! I play a lot of poker and in that game there are many different forms of collusion. One of the most common is called softplaying, where you play your hand in a different, more passive way then you normally would against someone you are friendly with. While the other person may be unaware of and uninvolved in what you are doing, its still considered collusion. Perhaps cheating is a more accurate word but it amounts to the same thing. In the case of this draft any favoritism shown would be improper, regardless of the name we use to describe it.

Gekko · Post by **Gekko** » Thu Oct 27, 2011 12:01 pm

countdown...

4. GLG20

3. Asumijet

2. CC’s Desperados

1. Likewhat17 & G@mblor

BLINDERS TIME!!!!

Navel Lint · Post by **Navel Lint** » Thu Oct 27, 2011 12:08 pm

Originally posted by G@mblor:

quote:Originally posted by GLG20:

Sorry guys.

SWAMPED at work today and just getting a chance to read through these messages.

Will scratch the names off, scroll through my (pitchers) list and post in the next hour or so.

Also, I think the definition of "collusion" involves an agreement between 2 or more people to defraud or obtain something illegally. "Agreement" and "2 or more" being the operative word/phrase... Not to be disagreeable, just thought I'd make that distinction... maybe this is why I'm so popular at parties!!! I play a lot of poker and in that game there are many different forms of collusion. One of the most common is called softplaying, where you play your hand in a different, more passive way then you normally would against someone you are friendly with. While the other person may be unaware of and uninvolved in what you are doing, its still considered collusion. Perhaps cheating is a more accurate word but it amounts to the same thing. In the case of this draft any favoritism shown would be improper, regardless of the name we use to describe it. [/QUOTE]I know we are just talking and no one is actually making accusations. But I think it's best if we just leave this subject be.

As Todd said so well a couple of days ago, we all have our own reputations to safeguard.

The blind rounds speak for themselves as defense against someone being put in the bad position of having to determine the winner with the last pick...... no more,no less

G@mblor · Post by **G@mblor** » Thu Oct 27, 2011 12:10 pm

Originally posted by Navel Lint:

quote:Originally posted by G@mblor:

quote:Originally posted by GLG20:

Sorry guys.

SWAMPED at work today and just getting a chance to read through these messages.

Will scratch the names off, scroll through my (pitchers) list and post in the next hour or so.

Also, I think the definition of "collusion" involves an agreement between 2 or more people to defraud or obtain something illegally. "Agreement" and "2 or more" being the operative word/phrase... Not to be disagreeable, just thought I'd make that distinction... maybe this is why I'm so popular at parties!!! I play a lot of poker and in that game there are many different forms of collusion. One of the most common is called softplaying, where you play your hand in a different, more passive way then you normally would against someone you are friendly with. While the other person may be unaware of and uninvolved in what you are doing, its still considered collusion. Perhaps cheating is a more accurate word but it amounts to the same thing. In the case of this draft any favoritism shown would be improper, regardless of the name we use to describe it. [/QUOTE]I know we are just talking and no one is actually making accusations. But I think it's best if we just leave this subject be.

As Todd said so well a couple of days ago, we all have our own reputations to safeguard.

The blind rounds speak for themselves as defense against someone being put in the bad position of having to determine the winner with the last pick...... no more,no less [/QUOTE]I understand. Just arguing semantics. Will move on.

DOUGHBOYS · Post by **DOUGHBOYS** » Thu Oct 27, 2011 12:11 pm

I've rearranged my schedule. I'll only be out the next hour or so.

So we can get thru some blind picks tonight if folks pick in a timely manner.

GLG20 · Post by **GLG20** » Thu Oct 27, 2011 12:26 pm

Again, apologies for the delay.

Eddie Cicotte 1917 -- 28 Wins, 1.53 ERA, .912 WHIP, 150 Ks, 4 Saves in 346.2 IP.

G@mblor · Post by **G@mblor** » Thu Oct 27, 2011 12:36 pm

Originally posted by GLG20:

Again, apologies for the delay.

Eddie Cicotte 1917 -- 28 Wins, 1.53 ERA, .912 WHIP, 150 Ks, 4 Saves in 346.2 IP. Strong pick there. A guy I thought should have been gone by now. Great ratios and wins over a lot of innings, even a few saves. Only mediocre k numbers but I think the rest more than makes up for that

Suburban Strugglers · Post by **Suburban Strugglers** » Thu Oct 27, 2011 12:46 pm

Eddie Cicotte is the guy that they where able to convince to throw the World Series during the Black Sox Scandal. I believe that Cicotte was the key piece in the players involved being able to throw the World Series. They obviously where able to convince him and the rest is history.

Navel Lint · Post by **Navel Lint** » Thu Oct 27, 2011 12:47 pm

Originally posted by G@mblor:

quote:Originally posted by GLG20:

Again, apologies for the delay.

Eddie Cicotte 1917 -- 28 Wins, 1.53 ERA, .912 WHIP, 150 Ks, 4 Saves in 346.2 IP. Strong pick there. A guy I thought should have been gone by now. Great ratios and wins over a lot of innings, even a few saves. Only mediocre k numbers but I think the rest more than makes up for that [/QUOTE]Agree. Great pick.

Navel Lint · Post by **Navel Lint** » Thu Oct 27, 2011 12:50 pm

Originally posted by rockitsauce:

quote:Originally posted by Navel Lint:

While we wait…………….

Of the players chosen to this point, I think Steve Carlton had one of the ugliest ends to his career that I can remember. I remember him playing out the string with CHI and MIN, but I forgot that he also worked SF and CLE in there.

Over his last three seasons, he was 15-29 with a 5.72 era.

Carlton was notorious for not speaking w/ the media...always wondered why he hung around so (too) long. It doesn't matter, he's still one of THE best lefthanders ever to throw a baseball. [/QUOTE]Oh! No argument here. He is one of the three or four best lefties ever to pitch. He was solid throughout his career, and the 3 year run he put together from 1980-82 was awesome.

Some Carlton Stuff®

When you win 329 games, you’re bound to have a winning record against most teams. He did his most damage against the Cubs (41-20), Pirates (39-25), and the team that traded him away for Rick Wise ( St Louis 38-14)

222 players hit home runs off Lefty, three of the top four were catchers. J Bench (12), Gary Carter (11), and Ted Simmons (7). The other guy in that list was Dave Kingman with 8.

He gave up the last two of his 414 dingers back-to-back. Joe Carter and Brook Jacoby both took Carlton deep in the first inning of a 10-2 Cleveland victory over the Twins.

It was the 244th and last lose of his career. It was also the last game he ever pitched. Five days later on April 28,1988 Minnesota released him.

®Stuff is a registered trademark of DOUGHBOYS

[ October 27, 2011, 06:53 PM: Message edited by: Navel Lint ]

Gekko · Post by **Gekko** » Thu Oct 27, 2011 12:52 pm

3. Asumijet

2. CC’s Desperados

1. Likewhat17 & G@mblor

BLINDERS TIME!!!!