All Time Draft Thread

ToddZ · Post by **ToddZ** » Sat Oct 29, 2011 8:32 am

Originally posted by Likewhat17:

quote:Originally posted by ToddZ:

Definitely seeing a delineation between the value drafters and the intuitive drafters. Correct.. but which group will the winner come from?

[/QUOTE]Probably someone doing a little of both

CC's Desperados · Post by **CC's Desperados** » Sat Oct 29, 2011 8:39 am

Originally posted by ToddZ:

quote:Originally posted by Likewhat17:

quote:Originally posted by ToddZ:

Definitely seeing a delineation between the value drafters and the intuitive drafters. Correct.. but which group will the winner come from?

[/QUOTE]Probably someone doing a little of both

[/QUOTE]It's really interesting to see the decisions once you have decided to go in a certain direction. On the Bagwell team, he grabbed his edge in pitching. Now he can sit back and wait and see how teams approach their pitching before adding another arm.

I think this round has given us two tells on which direction a team is going in a certain category. There was also one last round, but we don't know for sure which team made that pick.

Glenneration X · Post by **Glenneration X** » Sat Oct 29, 2011 8:47 am

I feel lucky for having decided to go 2B with my last pick after seeing Boone & Kent disappear in the picks almost immediately following mine. I'm not sure I picked the right 2B (decided to go with the add'l power & especially steals over BA & RBI's there after struggling over the choice), but I am glad I grabbed one.

After grabbing my 2B, I had this spot earmarked for a pitcher. So even in the midst of a potential hitting run, I'll switch gears and grab my 3rd (visible ) starter. I was struggling over a pair of pitchers that I believed were the best two left available but who each offered an edge over the other dependent upon the category. Since one was Dean Chance, it'll make my decision easier than the one I faced at 2B. The pitcher left for me leaves a few K's on the table when compared to Chance, but offers a few more wins, a slightly better ERA, a significantly better WHIP and one of the best remaining ratio combinations of any 200+ inning starter left on the board. That pitcher......

Chief Bender 1910

W - 23

S - 0

ERA - 1.58

WHIP - 0.91

K - 155

IP - 250

G@mblor · Post by **G@mblor** » Sat Oct 29, 2011 8:48 am

Originally posted by CC's Desperados:

quote:Originally posted by ToddZ:

quote:Originally posted by Likewhat17:

quote:Originally posted by ToddZ:

Definitely seeing a delineation between the value drafters and the intuitive drafters. Correct.. but which group will the winner come from?

[/QUOTE]Probably someone doing a little of both

[/QUOTE]It's really interesting to see the decisions once you have decided to go in a certain direction. On the Bagwell team, he grabbed his edge in pitching. Now he can sit back and wait and see how teams approach their pitching before adding another arm.

I think this round has given us two tells on which direction a team is going in a certain category. There was also one last round, but we don't know for sure which team made that pick. [/QUOTE]I'm not sure how much we know for certain at this point. A team taking a high steals guy with no power or a closer or a guy with great ratios and low ks is not necessarily an indication of their overall strategy. Perhaps they are doing what you suggested the Bagwell team is doing, only categorically. Stockpiling a certain stat and waiting to see how other teams react in that category possibly planning to use their future picks to balance out what they lack in. We have some educated guesses but, I think its still a little too early to know definitively which direction a team is headed.

CC's Desperados · Post by **CC's Desperados** » Sat Oct 29, 2011 9:05 am

When you take a starter with 88's K's, you are punting K's and there's a good chance you fall near the bottom in wins. If you add two plus K guys, it will certainly cost you huge points in ERA and whip.

You can try to hide your path, but the road is much clearer than you think.

[ October 29, 2011, 03:06 PM: Message edited by: CC's Desperados ]

The Fool on the Hill · Post by **The Fool on the Hill** » Sat Oct 29, 2011 9:18 am

With the lucky 7th pick of round #7

...........

The last .400 hitter in the National League

1b Bill Terry 1930

BA- 401

R- 139

RBI- 129

HR- 23

SB- 8

Bill Terry bio

ToddZ · Post by **ToddZ** » Sat Oct 29, 2011 9:25 am

Hammerin' Hank 1963

ToddZ · Post by **ToddZ** » Sat Oct 29, 2011 9:33 am

Through 7.08

Suburban Strugglers · Post by **Suburban Strugglers** » Sat Oct 29, 2011 9:36 am

Glenn I was also deciding between Chance and Bender as I obviously went with Chance. So nice pick as I think they where two of the best pitchers left.

Also if I did not go pitcher I was going Bill Terry at first base who went next, so once again great pick.

Terry really had a great season when you break it down. To hit .400 with basically 140 runs and 130 rbis and 20 plus homers was a great year. I actually thought he would have went earlier and may regret not grabbing him myself.

Gekko · Post by **Gekko** » Sat Oct 29, 2011 9:38 am

Originally posted by CC's Desperados:

When you take a starter with 88's K's, you are punting K's and there's a good chance you fall near the bottom in wins. If you add two plus K guys, it will certainly cost you huge points in ERA and whip.

You can try to hide your path, but the road is much clearer than you think. he must think we aren't watching

G@mblor · Post by **G@mblor** » Sat Oct 29, 2011 9:43 am

Originally posted by Gekko:

quote:Originally posted by CC's Desperados:

When you take a starter with 88's K's, you are punting K's and there's a good chance you fall near the bottom in wins. If you add two plus K guys, it will certainly cost you huge points in ERA and whip.

You can try to hide your path, but the road is much clearer than you think. he must think we aren't watching [/QUOTE]Said the man with no pitchers on record.

CC's Desperados · Post by **CC's Desperados** » Sat Oct 29, 2011 9:43 am

Originally posted by Gekko:

quote:Originally posted by CC's Desperados:

When you take a starter with 88's K's, you are punting K's and there's a good chance you fall near the bottom in wins. If you add two plus K guys, it will certainly cost you huge points in ERA and whip.

You can try to hide your path, but the road is much clearer than you think. he must think we aren't watching [/QUOTE]Thanks Dutch

Gekko · Post by **Gekko** » Sat Oct 29, 2011 9:48 am

Originally posted by G@mblor:

quote:Originally posted by Gekko:

quote:Originally posted by CC's Desperados:

When you take a starter with 88's K's, you are punting K's and there's a good chance you fall near the bottom in wins. If you add two plus K guys, it will certainly cost you huge points in ERA and whip.

You can try to hide your path, but the road is much clearer than you think. he must think we aren't watching [/QUOTE]Said the man with no pitchers on record. [/QUOTE]and u won't see any till the double digit rounds!

G@mblor · Post by **G@mblor** » Sat Oct 29, 2011 9:49 am

Originally posted by Gekko:

quote:Originally posted by G@mblor:

quote:Originally posted by Gekko:

quote:Originally posted by CC's Desperados:

When you take a starter with 88's K's, you are punting K's and there's a good chance you fall near the bottom in wins. If you add two plus K guys, it will certainly cost you huge points in ERA and whip.

You can try to hide your path, but the road is much clearer than you think. he must think we aren't watching [/QUOTE]Said the man with no pitchers on record.

[/QUOTE]and u won't see any till the double digit rounds! [/QUOTE]So your third pitcher will go in the 11th. Good to know.

Glenneration X · Post by **Glenneration X** » Sat Oct 29, 2011 9:51 am

Todd, why do you have 6 players total in your hitter/pitcher breakdowns for Mark & Bruce? Do you know something the rest of us don't?

By the way, thanks for taking Aaron off the board. I've been looking at him each of the last few rounds but just couldn't pull the trigger on another outfielder that early. Glad not to have to consider him any longer.

Gekko · Post by **Gekko** » Sat Oct 29, 2011 9:52 am

Originally posted by G@mblor:

So your third pitcher will go in the 11th. Good to know. i'd be surprised if i had a pitcher on my public record b4 i fill up all my hitter slots

Glenneration X · Post by **Glenneration X** » Sat Oct 29, 2011 9:53 am

It's certainly possible that Gekko went Alomar in the blind round. After picking Soriano, he seemed to be pushing 2B awful hard.

CC's Desperados · Post by **CC's Desperados** » Sat Oct 29, 2011 9:54 am

Originally posted by Glenneration X:

Todd, why do you have 6 players total in your hitter/pitcher breakdowns for Mark & Bruce? Do you know something the rest of us don't?

By the way, thanks for taking Aaron off the board. I've been looking at him each of the last few rounds but just couldn't pull the trigger on another outfielder that early. Glad not to have to consider him any longer. He has a Dummy pitcher in there for both.

G@mblor · Post by **G@mblor** » Sat Oct 29, 2011 9:59 am

Originally posted by Glenneration X:

It's certainly possible that Gekko went Alomar in the blind round. After picking Soriano, he seemed to be pushing 2B awful hard.

So you're saying that you have Alomar.

Glenneration X · Post by **Glenneration X** » Sat Oct 29, 2011 10:00 am

Originally posted by CC's Desperados:

quote:Originally posted by Glenneration X:

Todd, why do you have 6 players total in your hitter/pitcher breakdowns for Mark & Bruce? Do you know something the rest of us don't?

By the way, thanks for taking Aaron off the board. I've been looking at him each of the last few rounds but just couldn't pull the trigger on another outfielder that early. Glad not to have to consider him any longer. He has a Dummy pitcher in there for both. [/QUOTE]Gotcha, makes sense now. Though not nearly as interesting as the potential conspiracy theory would have been.

Glenneration X · Post by **Glenneration X** » Sat Oct 29, 2011 10:01 am

Originally posted by G@mblor:

quote:Originally posted by Glenneration X:

It's certainly possible that Gekko went Alomar in the blind round. After picking Soriano, he seemed to be pushing 2B awful hard.

So you're saying that you have Alomar. [/QUOTE]All of a sudden I'm glad we have blind rounds. The speculation is a blast.

As far as I having Alomar......

The Fool on the Hill · Post by **The Fool on the Hill** » Sat Oct 29, 2011 10:03 am

The 4-category pitching pool is long dry. The 3-category pool is evaporating like a puddle in the Arizona summer sun. Gonna be several guys punting k's, or ERA, or Whip (like whoever has that "Blind" Feller).... and most certainly wins. So while the road may be clear, it's how well you drive that road that counts.

Gekko · Post by **Gekko** » Sat Oct 29, 2011 10:06 am

Originally posted by The Fool on the Hill:

The 4-category pitching pool is long dry. The 3-category pool is evaporating like a puddle in the Arizona summer sun. Gonna be several guys punting k's, or ERA, or Whip (like whoever has that "Blind" Feller).... and most certainly wins. So while the road may be clear, it's how well you drive that road that counts.

what u can't get in quality, u can get in quantity

ToddZ · Post by **ToddZ** » Sat Oct 29, 2011 10:09 am

The DUMMY pitcher is necessary to have the ERA and WHIP score the teams with no pitchers at the bottom of the pile.

The Fool on the Hill · Post by **The Fool on the Hill** » Sat Oct 29, 2011 10:14 am

Originally posted by Gekko:

quote:Originally posted by The Fool on the Hill:

The 4-category pitching pool is long dry. The 3-category pool is evaporating like a puddle in the Arizona summer sun. Gonna be several guys punting k's, or ERA, or Whip (like whoever has that "Blind" Feller).... and most certainly wins. So while the road may be clear, it's how well you drive that road that counts.

what u can't get in quality, u can get in quantity [/QUOTE]Huh? And here I was thinking we all had the same # of roster spots. Silly me!