All Time Draft Thread

Glenneration X · Post by **Glenneration X** » Tue Nov 01, 2011 7:42 am

Originally posted by DOUGHBOYS:

I'm out for 2 hours.

The last four teams should be sending a list with at least 4 names while gone.

I'll be getting back with them when I get back and post the players names then.

Thanks! 2 hours for lunch? That's a whole lot of Doritos.

Likewhat17 · Post by **Likewhat17** » Tue Nov 01, 2011 7:50 am

Originally posted by Glenneration X:

quote:Originally posted by DOUGHBOYS:

I'm out for 2 hours.

The last four teams should be sending a list with at least 4 names while gone.

I'll be getting back with them when I get back and post the players names then.

Thanks! 2 hours for lunch? That's a whole lot of Doritos. [/QUOTE]My thoughts exactly!

I've sent my picks in, as long as teams 2-4 have, we should be seeing the unveiling of the second blind list upon his return!

Asumijet · Post by **Asumijet** » Tue Nov 01, 2011 9:02 am

Originally posted by Likewhat17:

quote:Originally posted by Glenneration X:

quote:Originally posted by DOUGHBOYS:

I'm out for 2 hours.

The last four teams should be sending a list with at least 4 names while gone.

I'll be getting back with them when I get back and post the players names then.

Thanks! 2 hours for lunch? That's a whole lot of Doritos. [/QUOTE]My thoughts exactly!

I've sent my picks in, as long as teams 2-4 have, we should be seeing the unveiling of the second blind list upon his return! [/QUOTE]Fellas, I am at #3, and have been swamped the past two days at work and home. This is the first chance I have even had to look on the MB since I made my Round 9 pick. Thankfully, it has not gotten to me. But to set everyone's expectation, I probably will not have a list to Dan until later this evening. I won't even have a chance to review who has been picked from the round 9 until 8:00 this evening. My apologies, and I appreciate your understanding.

DOUGHBOYS · Post by **DOUGHBOYS** » Tue Nov 01, 2011 9:12 am

And we are at Neal....

DOUGHBOYS · Post by **DOUGHBOYS** » Tue Nov 01, 2011 9:15 am

Originally posted by Glenneration X:

quote:Originally posted by DOUGHBOYS:

I'm out for 2 hours.

The last four teams should be sending a list with at least 4 names while gone.

I'll be getting back with them when I get back and post the players names then.

Thanks! 2 hours for lunch? That's a whole lot of Doritos. [/QUOTE]DOUGHBOYS! DOUGHBOYS!

Self-explanatory!

Sorry, took the grandkids to a grand opening of a furniture store in the mix with lunch.

Man, it was like they were at Disneyland! :rolleyes:

Gekko · Post by **Gekko** » Tue Nov 01, 2011 9:24 am

Originally posted by Asumijet:

Fellas, I am at #3, and have been swamped the past two days at work and home. This is the first chance I have even had to look on the MB since I made my Round 9 pick. Thankfully, it has not gotten to me. But to set everyone's expectation, I probably will not have a list to Dan until later this evening. I won't even have a chance to review who has been picked from the round 9 until 8:00 this evening. My apologies, and I appreciate your understanding. thanks for the heads-up Neal. this will allow me to get some sleep tonight

DOUGHBOYS · Post by **DOUGHBOYS** » Tue Nov 01, 2011 9:47 am

Somebody took Austin Jackson in our draft. I put this stat out to illustrate how much baseball has changed over the last 46 years....

In 1965, one player (Richie Allen) had as many as 150 strike outs. He had 150 on the button.

28 players, struck out over 100 times.

IN 2011, 16 players had at least 150 strike outs. 78 players struck out at least 100 times.

My perception is two things.

One, there is still a little fall out from the steroid era. Swings are harder to compensate.

Two, the game has changed. Teams hit and run a lot less and depend on the long ball a lot more.

Whatever the reason, pitchers are digging it.

DOUGHBOYS · Post by **DOUGHBOYS** » Tue Nov 01, 2011 9:57 am

BTW,,,,

68 Players in 2011 with at least 20 home runs.

38 players in 1965 with at least 20 home runs.

Gekko · Post by **Gekko** » Tue Nov 01, 2011 9:58 am

Originally posted by DOUGHBOYS:

BTW,,,,

68 Players in 2011 with at least 20 home runs.

38 players in 1965 with at least 20 home runs. since i know little about baseball history...how many major league teams were there in 1965?

DOUGHBOYS · Post by **DOUGHBOYS** » Tue Nov 01, 2011 10:01 am

I believe there were 20 teams. I'll check for sure.

G@mblor · Post by **G@mblor** » Tue Nov 01, 2011 10:02 am

Originally posted by DOUGHBOYS:

I believe there were 20 teams. I'll check for sure. Less teams+ bigger, stronger players on the whole= more homeruns.

DOUGHBOYS · Post by **DOUGHBOYS** » Tue Nov 01, 2011 10:04 am

Originally posted by G@mblor:

quote:Originally posted by DOUGHBOYS:

I believe there were 20 teams. I'll check for sure. Less teams+ bigger, stronger players on the whole= more homeruns. [/QUOTE]20 teams then.

There are more teams and more home runs now.

DOUGHBOYS · Post by **DOUGHBOYS** » Tue Nov 01, 2011 10:05 am

More teams = Less pitching

I should say, supposedly, less quality pitching...

[ November 01, 2011, 04:07 PM: Message edited by: DOUGHBOYS ]

G@mblor · Post by **G@mblor** » Tue Nov 01, 2011 10:11 am

Originally posted by DOUGHBOYS:

quote:Originally posted by G@mblor:

quote:Originally posted by DOUGHBOYS:

I believe there were 20 teams. I'll check for sure. Less teams+ bigger, stronger players on the whole= more homeruns. [/QUOTE]20 teams then.

There are more teams and more home runs now. [/QUOTE]whoops meant *more of course

DOUGHBOYS · Post by **DOUGHBOYS** » Tue Nov 01, 2011 10:15 am

16-1 ratio for 150 strikeouts still remain....

More kids are taught to grip and rip?

Navel Lint · Post by **Navel Lint** » Tue Nov 01, 2011 10:17 am

Originally posted by DOUGHBOYS:

Somebody took Austin Jackson in our draft. I put this stat out to illustrate how much baseball has changed over the last 46 years....

In 1965, one player (Richie Allen) had as many as 150 strike outs. He had 150 on the button.

28 players, struck out over 100 times.

IN 2011, 16 players had at least 150 strike outs. 78 players struck out at least 100 times.

My perception is two things.

One, there is still a little fall out from the steroid era. Swings are harder to compensate.

Two, the game has changed. Teams hit and run a lot less and depend on the long ball a lot more.

Whatever the reason, pitchers are digging it. 1965 AL ERA 3.46 : K/9=6.0

2011 AL ERA 4.08 : K/9=6.9

They may be striking out more hitters, especially when you factor in the DH, but I'm not sure that they really feel good about it.

DOUGHBOYS · Post by **DOUGHBOYS** » Tue Nov 01, 2011 10:22 am

Interesting Russ, do you have both leagues numbers?

This would tend to defend the long ball game over the shorter game.

Navel Lint · Post by **Navel Lint** » Tue Nov 01, 2011 10:23 am

Originally posted by Navel Lint:

quote:Originally posted by DOUGHBOYS:

Somebody took Austin Jackson in our draft. I put this stat out to illustrate how much baseball has changed over the last 46 years....

In 1965, one player (Richie Allen) had as many as 150 strike outs. He had 150 on the button.

28 players, struck out over 100 times.

IN 2011, 16 players had at least 150 strike outs. 78 players struck out at least 100 times.

My perception is two things.

One, there is still a little fall out from the steroid era. Swings are harder to compensate.

Two, the game has changed. Teams hit and run a lot less and depend on the long ball a lot more.

Whatever the reason, pitchers are digging it. 1965 AL ERA 3.46 : K/9=6.0

2011 AL ERA 4.08 : K/9=6.9

They may be striking out more hitters, especially when you factor in the DH, but I'm not sure that they really feel good about it. [/QUOTE]Interestingly, the NL K's/9 have gone up more from '65 to 2011 (5.9 to 7.3)

but the ERA has only risen by 0.27 ( 3.54 to 3.81) compared to the AL's 0.62 rise

Navel Lint · Post by **Navel Lint** » Tue Nov 01, 2011 10:30 am

Originally posted by Navel Lint:

quote:Originally posted by Navel Lint:

quote:Originally posted by DOUGHBOYS:

Somebody took Austin Jackson in our draft. I put this stat out to illustrate how much baseball has changed over the last 46 years....

In 1965, one player (Richie Allen) had as many as 150 strike outs. He had 150 on the button.

28 players, struck out over 100 times.

IN 2011, 16 players had at least 150 strike outs. 78 players struck out at least 100 times.

My perception is two things.

One, there is still a little fall out from the steroid era. Swings are harder to compensate.

Two, the game has changed. Teams hit and run a lot less and depend on the long ball a lot more.

Whatever the reason, pitchers are digging it. 1965 AL ERA 3.46 : K/9=6.0

2011 AL ERA 4.08 : K/9=6.9

They may be striking out more hitters, especially when you factor in the DH, but I'm not sure that they really feel good about it. [/QUOTE]Interestingly, the NL K's/9 have gone up more from '65 to 2011 (5.9 to 7.3)

but the ERA has only risen by 0.27 ( 3.54 to 3.81) compared to the AL's 0.62 rise [/QUOTE]1965 NL 132HR/tm : AL 137HR/tm

2011 NL 143HR/tm : AL 162HR/tm

The numbers would suggest that the NL teams are swinging for the fence more (more K's), but they are hitting less HR's and scoring less [relative to AL increases], of course the fact that the pitchers bat in the NL must be taken into account

[ November 01, 2011, 04:31 PM: Message edited by: Navel Lint ]

Navel Lint · Post by **Navel Lint** » Tue Nov 01, 2011 10:37 am

Then again, that's just picking out those two years randomly, the numbers might look MUCH different if we used 1968 and 2001

G@mblor · Post by **G@mblor** » Tue Nov 01, 2011 10:39 am

Originally posted by Navel Lint:

quote:Originally posted by Navel Lint:

quote:Originally posted by Navel Lint:

quote:Originally posted by DOUGHBOYS:

Somebody took Austin Jackson in our draft. I put this stat out to illustrate how much baseball has changed over the last 46 years....

In 1965, one player (Richie Allen) had as many as 150 strike outs. He had 150 on the button.

28 players, struck out over 100 times.

IN 2011, 16 players had at least 150 strike outs. 78 players struck out at least 100 times.

My perception is two things.

One, there is still a little fall out from the steroid era. Swings are harder to compensate.

Two, the game has changed. Teams hit and run a lot less and depend on the long ball a lot more.

Whatever the reason, pitchers are digging it. 1965 AL ERA 3.46 : K/9=6.0

2011 AL ERA 4.08 : K/9=6.9

They may be striking out more hitters, especially when you factor in the DH, but I'm not sure that they really feel good about it. [/QUOTE]Interestingly, the NL K's/9 have gone up more from '65 to 2011 (5.9 to 7.3)

but the ERA has only risen by 0.27 ( 3.54 to 3.81) compared to the AL's 0.62 rise [/QUOTE]1965 NL 132HR/tm : AL 137HR/tm

2011 NL 143HR/tm : AL 162HR/tm

The numbers would suggest that the NL teams are swinging for the fence more (more K's), but they are hitting less HR's and scoring less [relative to AL increases], of course the fact that the pitchers bat in the NL must be taken into account [/QUOTE]I think you can attribute just about all of that to the pitchers vs. DH. Fits perfectly.

DOUGHBOYS · Post by **DOUGHBOYS** » Tue Nov 01, 2011 10:44 am

Originally posted by Navel Lint:

Then again, that's just picking out those two years randomly, the numbers might look MUCH different if we used 1968 and 2001 I'd bet on it. The height of the steroid era.

DOUGHBOYS · Post by **DOUGHBOYS** » Tue Nov 01, 2011 10:50 am

Just checked...

90 Players with at least 20 home runs in 2001

23 players with at least 20 home runs in 1968

Gekko · Post by **Gekko** » Tue Nov 01, 2011 10:50 am

guys, if it somehow gets to me tonight (which i highly doubt), i'll make my picks in the morning. sleeptime begins in a little more than 3 hours

DOUGHBOYS · Post by **DOUGHBOYS** » Tue Nov 01, 2011 10:54 am

18 players with 100 strikeouts in 1968.

77 players with 100 strike outs in 2001.