All Time Draft Thread

G@mblor · Post by **G@mblor** » Tue Nov 08, 2011 10:41 am

Originally posted by Gekko:

quote:Originally posted by G@mblor:

quote:Originally posted by Gekko:

if after the draft people don't see a need for 3RR, please give me the 1st pick in the draft. TIA You don't want the pressure of #1. I feel like its embarrassing if Dave and I don't finish top 5, given our premier draft slot. [/QUOTE]u have a shot for top 5. u do have ruth and were the first of the SP punters to draft a SP (but did u draft the right one)

the critical pick was not selecting walsh [/QUOTE]Ed Walsh was not our #1 pitcher for the record

Nevadaman · Post by **Nevadaman** » Tue Nov 08, 2011 10:42 am

As team 14, I appreciate the love from Shawn and Gekko! I do agree we should wait for the results of this draft before making any drastic changes. That said, I am glad to see my 10/11 blind proposal was favorably received..

ToddZ · Post by **ToddZ** » Tue Nov 08, 2011 10:49 am

Originally posted by G@mblor:

quote:Originally posted by Gekko:

quote:Originally posted by G@mblor:

quote:Originally posted by Gekko:

if after the draft people don't see a need for 3RR, please give me the 1st pick in the draft. TIA You don't want the pressure of #1. I feel like its embarrassing if Dave and I don't finish top 5, given our premier draft slot. [/QUOTE]u have a shot for top 5. u do have ruth and were the first of the SP punters to draft a SP (but did u draft the right one)

the critical pick was not selecting walsh [/QUOTE]Ed Walsh was not our #1 pitcher for the record [/QUOTE]Then you need a new record

G@mblor · Post by **G@mblor** » Tue Nov 08, 2011 10:52 am

Originally posted by ToddZ:

quote:Originally posted by G@mblor:

quote:Originally posted by Gekko:

quote:Originally posted by G@mblor:

quote:Originally posted by Gekko:

if after the draft people don't see a need for 3RR, please give me the 1st pick in the draft. TIA You don't want the pressure of #1. I feel like its embarrassing if Dave and I don't finish top 5, given our premier draft slot. [/QUOTE]u have a shot for top 5. u do have ruth and were the first of the SP punters to draft a SP (but did u draft the right one)

the critical pick was not selecting walsh [/QUOTE]Ed Walsh was not our #1 pitcher for the record [/QUOTE]Then you need a new record

[/QUOTE]Lol. For what we were trying to do Walter Johnson would have been a better fit is all. To each his own.

Navel Lint · Post by **Navel Lint** » Tue Nov 08, 2011 10:54 am

Originally posted by Nevadaman:

As team 14, I appreciate the love from Shawn and Gekko! I do agree we should wait for the results of this draft before making any drastic changes. That said, I am glad to see my 10/11 blind proposal was favorably received.. How exactly is 10/11 better than the current setup?

Remember, the goal was to prevent one or two owners from "picking" the winner at the end. ( no way to know if it was needed or not)

3 blinds rounds were determined the minimum necessary to prevent owners from going back and recreating the rosters after 22 rounds. A 4th blind round was added to send the rounds up and down (1-15) each way twice.

I guess in theory that back to back blind rounds would be faster than current model, but the blinds we have finished went fairly fast.

ToddZ · Post by **ToddZ** » Tue Nov 08, 2011 10:57 am

through 18.08

Nevadaman · Post by **Nevadaman** » Tue Nov 08, 2011 11:06 am

It's impossible to recreate the rosters with two blind rounds, so 4 is overkill. You can guess, but cannot know for sure. No reason to have 4 - the additional uncertainty takes away from the game's strategy. This should be a game of skill - not a lottery. Keep in mind the reason for the blinds was to prevent collusion - that's all.

[ November 08, 2011, 05:06 PM: Message edited by: Nevadaman ]

Navel Lint · Post by **Navel Lint** » Tue Nov 08, 2011 11:07 am

Originally posted by ToddZ:

through 18.08 Todd,

Some of the players are on the wrong teams. For me (team 9) you have Bottomley listed, he should be on team 10. I should have Thome

I don't know if there are others

Gekko · Post by **Gekko** » Tue Nov 08, 2011 11:08 am

Originally posted by Nevadaman:

As team 14, I appreciate the love from Shawn and Gekko! I do agree we should wait for the results of this draft before making any drastic changes. That said, I am glad to see my 10/11 blind proposal was favorably received.. for the record, i still think shawn wins the league (walsh factor). you'll get 2nd

ToddZ · Post by **ToddZ** » Tue Nov 08, 2011 11:10 am

Originally posted by Navel Lint:

quote:Originally posted by ToddZ:

through 18.08 Todd,

Some of the players are on the wrong teams. For me (team 9) you have Bottomley listed, he should be on team 10. I should have Thome

I don't know if there are others [/QUOTE]Thanks -- on it

Navel Lint · Post by **Navel Lint** » Tue Nov 08, 2011 11:11 am

Originally posted by Nevadaman:

It's impossible to recreate the rosters with two blind rounds, so 4 is overkill. You can guess, but cannot know for sure. No reason to have 4 - the additional uncertainty takes away from the game's strategy. This should be a game of skill - not a lottery. Keep in mind the reason for the blinds was to prevent collusion - that's all. You might be right... then again, Shawn already knows that team 4 is going to win.

I'd hate to see what he knows with more info

Gekko · Post by **Gekko** » Tue Nov 08, 2011 11:11 am

CBA for next draft...

1. draft walsh

2. punt batting average

3. win league

ToddZ · Post by **ToddZ** » Tue Nov 08, 2011 11:21 am

Originally posted by ToddZ:

quote:Originally posted by Navel Lint:

quote:Originally posted by ToddZ:

through 18.08 Todd,

Some of the players are on the wrong teams. For me (team 9) you have Bottomley listed, he should be on team 10. I should have Thome

I don't know if there are others [/QUOTE]Thanks -- on it [/QUOTE]FIXED

G@mblor · Post by **G@mblor** » Tue Nov 08, 2011 11:25 am

Originally posted by Nevadaman:

It's impossible to recreate the rosters with two blind rounds, so 4 is overkill. You can guess, but cannot know for sure. No reason to have 4 - the additional uncertainty takes away from the game's strategy. This should be a game of skill - not a lottery. Keep in mind the reason for the blinds was to prevent collusion - that's all. This draft would be like a chess match if we took away the blinds, especially in the end game. You know 2 teams need a mi and so do you. Do you take one now? Hope they pass? There would be small battles for every category spot and at every position. Feels like this draft is sort of winding down, without the blinds it would just be heating up!

CC's Desperados · Post by **CC's Desperados** » Tue Nov 08, 2011 11:26 am

Originally posted by ToddZ:

quote:Originally posted by ToddZ:

quote:Originally posted by Navel Lint:

quote:Originally posted by ToddZ:

through 18.08 Todd,

Some of the players are on the wrong teams. For me (team 9) you have Bottomley listed, he should be on team 10. I should have Thome

I don't know if there are others [/QUOTE]Thanks -- on it [/QUOTE]FIXED [/QUOTE]Are the standing right on the link?

ToddZ · Post by **ToddZ** » Tue Nov 08, 2011 11:30 am

Originally posted by CC's Desperados:

Are the standing right on the link? They are now, I uploaded a new jpg and a new zip file to the server

Navel Lint · Post by **Navel Lint** » Tue Nov 08, 2011 11:52 am

Originally posted by G@mblor:

quote:Originally posted by Nevadaman:

It's impossible to recreate the rosters with two blind rounds, so 4 is overkill. You can guess, but cannot know for sure. No reason to have 4 - the additional uncertainty takes away from the game's strategy. This should be a game of skill - not a lottery. Keep in mind the reason for the blinds was to prevent collusion - that's all. This draft would be like a chess match if we took away the blinds, especially in the end game. You know 2 teams need a mi and so do you. Do you take one now? Hope they pass? There would be small battles for every category spot and at every position. Feels like this draft is sort of winding down, without the blinds it would just be heating up! [/QUOTE]I completely disagree. If we knew everyone’s blind players, the excitement of this draft would be over. The statistical differences between the remaining players at each individual position are so small that there would be no way to separate you from the next guy. If you both need a MI, the two players chosen would be so close in stats that it wouldn’t matter which guy you get. And if it did matter, then I would want to be the owner picking second. If I already know what you have, then I know what to take to beat you.

G@mblor · Post by **G@mblor** » Tue Nov 08, 2011 11:56 am

Originally posted by Navel Lint:

quote:Originally posted by G@mblor:

quote:Originally posted by Nevadaman:

It's impossible to recreate the rosters with two blind rounds, so 4 is overkill. You can guess, but cannot know for sure. No reason to have 4 - the additional uncertainty takes away from the game's strategy. This should be a game of skill - not a lottery. Keep in mind the reason for the blinds was to prevent collusion - that's all. This draft would be like a chess match if we took away the blinds, especially in the end game. You know 2 teams need a mi and so do you. Do you take one now? Hope they pass? There would be small battles for every category spot

and at every position. Feels like this draft is sort of winding down, without the blinds it would just be heating up! [/QUOTE]I completely disagree. If we knew everyone’s blind players, the excitement of this draft would be over. The statistical differences between the remaining players at each individual position are so small that there would be no way to separate you from the next guy. If you both need a MI, the two players chosen would be so close in stats that it wouldn’t matter which guy you

get. And if it did matter, then I would want to be the owner picking second. If I already know what you have, then I know what to take to beat you. [/QUOTE]I think there would be a lot more indraft adjustments (skill) without the blinds. I guess we will have to agree to disagree

The Fool on the Hill · Post by **The Fool on the Hill** » Tue Nov 08, 2011 12:02 pm

3b Jose Bautista 2010

BA- .260

R-109

HR-54

RBI-124

SB-9

Navel Lint · Post by **Navel Lint** » Tue Nov 08, 2011 12:14 pm

Glenn X up

Strugglers next

GLG20 in the hole

Glenneration X · Post by **Glenneration X** » Tue Nov 08, 2011 12:35 pm

I'm tempted to go offense here with hitters flying off the boards, but I've been planning on pitching here since my Wilber Wood pick as most of the hitters are starting to look the same to me. When I chose Wood, there was one more starter that stood out to me. Even with the average wins & K's, the solid ERA & WHIP over 200+ innings with so many innings yet to be drafted in this draft call out to me as a way to bring others back to me in those categories. Because of that, this starter will be my choice here. That player.....

Kevin Brown 1996

W - 17

S - 0

ERA - 1.89

WHIP - 0.94

K - 159

Innings - 237.1

[ November 08, 2011, 06:37 PM: Message edited by: Glenneration X ]

Suburban Strugglers · Post by **Suburban Strugglers** » Tue Nov 08, 2011 12:50 pm

Well Glen once again you made my choice easy as I was either going starter or closer and that was the last starter that I really valued as did you. I need another closer so I will take the only one left who has 35 plus saves and a era under 2.00 and a whip under 1.000 also not bad wins and ks.

Jeff Russell 1989

38 Saves / 6 Wins / 1.98 ERA / .950 WHIP / 77 K / 72.2 IP

Navel Lint · Post by **Navel Lint** » Tue Nov 08, 2011 1:05 pm

GLG20 up

Asumijet next

Desperados in the hole

GLG20 · Post by **GLG20** » Tue Nov 08, 2011 1:09 pm

Mark Teixeira 2005: .301, 43 HR, 144 RBI, 112 Runs, 4 SB