Position Eligibility Lists - Slight Problem

viper · Post by **viper** » Sun Feb 12, 2006 10:41 am

STATS has changed the link but there are problems.

1. The lists imply that each position only shows those players with 20+ games but even their own data clearly shows every player who played at least one game at the position. I can handle the extras in my spreadsheet but it is confusing.

2. A bigger issue is in Outfield where they do not indicate games played. There is no way to determine if a player had 20+ games in the outfield.

I have a list using the USAToday games played link but really want to create an "official" NFBC list.

We are getting there.

[ February 12, 2006, 04:42 PM: Message edited by: viper ]

Greg Ambrosius · Post by **Greg Ambrosius** » Sun Feb 12, 2006 12:44 pm

Tom has the NFBC eligibility lists at www.fantasysportsmag.com.

viper · Post by **viper** » Sun Feb 12, 2006 1:29 pm

I looked there but can't find a true list. Your league $$$ projections have people in positions but I don't think that this can be it. For example, it shows Marte as a 3B but he only played 17 games there last year. He had a total of 24 games played as a Brave but just 17 at 3B - according to USAToday. Maybe he is some type of exception but I don't recall him being mentioned in any posts - like Bonds. I hate to be picky but this about the only area that isn't subject to changes down the road due to injuries, etc. so I would like to get it finalized now.

Gordon Gekko · Post by **Gordon Gekko** » Sun Feb 12, 2006 1:37 pm

this shouldn't be as difficult as it is.

Quahogs · Post by **Quahogs** » Sun Feb 12, 2006 1:45 pm

For example, it shows Marte as a 3B but he only played 17 games there last year. He had a total of 24 games played as a Brave but just 17 at 3B Mike, according to nfbc rules 3b is correct for him. If he didnt play 20 at one position then his position is determined by the most games at one spot he did play .

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King of Queens · Post by **King of Queens** » Sun Feb 12, 2006 1:53 pm

Originally posted by Quahogs:

Mike, according to nfbc rules 3b is correct for him. If he didnt play 20 at one position then his position is determined by the most games at one spot he did play .

Q EXCEPTION: if the player appeared in more games as a pinch hitter than any position, and did not play 20 or more games at a single position, he can only qualify as a utility player. See for example Prince Fielder for this year's contest and Ramon Castro for 2004's event. See, Greg? I finally got the rule down!

These two points should be listed on rules page, if they are not already.

viper · Post by **viper** » Sun Feb 12, 2006 1:58 pm

I concede defeated but happen to agree with GG - this should be a bit easier. Definitely, the NFBC link supplied by STATS is a bit dangerous to go by as they have players in position with 1 and 2 games.

Is it safe to say that all positions given for players on the $$$ projections of the maagazine are good to go for the NFBC events??

[ February 12, 2006, 07:59 PM: Message edited by: viper ]

Quahogs · Post by **Quahogs** » Sun Feb 12, 2006 2:45 pm

EXCEPTION: if the player appeared in more games as a pinch hitter than any position, and did not play 20 or more games at a single position, he can only qualify as a utility player. See for example Prince Fielder for this year's contest and Ramon Castro for 2004's event. See, Greg? I finally got the rule down!

These two points should be listed on rules page, if they are not already.if you like that then you'll love this scenario - BJ Upton doesnt break camp with TB. He has a minor injury - he DH's 1st 5gms, heals up starts at SS for 3 then gets called up. According to the rules he's only eligible for UTIL spot (until he plays 10gm for TB at SS of course). I see Greg's point in letting 06 determine position elig but I hate having minor league players up in the air like that. When you draft him you think you're getting a SS. But that may not be the case.

bp_ · Post by **bp_** » Sun Feb 12, 2006 4:05 pm

for us satellite leaguers - does the player DB at mockdraftcentral match the position eligibility lists from the NFBC exactly?

viper · Post by **viper** » Sun Feb 12, 2006 11:39 pm

no it does not

an example is the late fantasy reserve player, Jose Lopez of Seattle. He qualifies only as a 2B - 51 of 54 games played in 2005 so no funny exceptions. However, MDC has him as both a 2b & SS. I have him on my bench in the NFBC Magazine League and I see he is both 2B & SS qualified. Greg's magazine correctly has him as only a 2B. If there is one difference, I tend to think there are others.

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bp_ · Post by **bp_** » Mon Feb 13, 2006 2:55 pm

it would be good to get an official word about this. I can see someone being drafted at the wrong position causing a mess.

King of Queens · Post by **King of Queens** » Mon Feb 13, 2006 2:57 pm

Originally posted by bp:

it would be good to get an official word about this. I can see someone being drafted at the wrong position causing a mess. I can probably help you with your question, if I knew what you were asking...

Greg Ambrosius · Post by **Greg Ambrosius** » Mon Feb 13, 2006 2:58 pm

Originally posted by bp:

for us satellite leaguers - does the player DB at mockdraftcentral match the position eligibility lists from the NFBC exactly? No. You'll need to know our qualifications as you make out valid lineups through the 30 rounds of the draft.

Greg Ambrosius · Post by **Greg Ambrosius** » Mon Feb 13, 2006 3:01 pm

Originally posted by bp:

it would be good to get an official word about this. I can see someone being drafted at the wrong position causing a mess. We'll be online to answer questions, but again the position eligibility lists are at www.fantasysportsmag.com and you can ask us about any player privately or via phone well before your drafts. It's your job to fill a valid roster.

Our stickers on Draft Day don't match exactly either. We don't have NFBC stickers and mock draft sites....YET.

bp_ · Post by **bp_** » Mon Feb 13, 2006 3:02 pm

Originally posted by King of Queens:

quote:Originally posted by bp:

it would be good to get an official word about this. I can see someone being drafted at the wrong position causing a mess. I can probably help you with your question, if I knew what you were asking... [/QUOTE]I guess reading would be a pre-requisite

bp_ · Post by **bp_** » Mon Feb 13, 2006 3:03 pm

Originally posted by Greg Ambrosius:

quote:Originally posted by bp:

it would be good to get an official word about this. I can see someone being drafted at the wrong position causing a mess. We'll be online to answer questions, but again the position eligibility lists are at www.fantasysportsmag.com and you can ask us about any player privately or via phone well before your drafts. It's your job to fill a valid roster.

Our stickers on Draft Day don't match exactly either. We don't have NFBC stickers and mock draft sites....YET. [/QUOTE]cool. I'll do some cross-checking of my lists. Thx!

King of Queens · Post by **King of Queens** » Mon Feb 13, 2006 3:16 pm

Originally posted by bp:

quote:Originally posted by King of Queens:

quote:Originally posted by bp:

it would be good to get an official word about this. I can see someone being drafted at the wrong position causing a mess. I can probably help you with your question, if I knew what you were asking... [/QUOTE]I guess reading would be a pre-requisite

[/QUOTE]I noticed your earlier question after Greg posted. Another great thing about Greg: he actually READS all of the posts, instead of just skimming them.

I'm glad you got your answer. From what I understand, we will also be getting a list prior to draft day with every player eligible to be picked. That will CERTAINLY eliminate any questions...

abbott&costello · Post by **abbott&costello** » Tue Feb 14, 2006 4:48 pm

greg went to fantasy sports mag whats the eligibilty under for the nfbc can't find.thanks

Tom Kessenich · Post by **Tom Kessenich** » Wed Feb 15, 2006 6:01 am

What didn't you find there? All of the eligibility on the site is the same as it will be in the NFFC. Let me know what problems you're having and I'll be glad to help if I can.