Hideki Matsui

Diamond Dogs · Post by **Diamond Dogs** » Fri May 12, 2006 3:08 am

Will Matsui be placed on the DL now that he has a broken wrist? And will he placed on the list in time to utilize the Friday roster change option?

bp_ · Post by **bp_** » Fri May 12, 2006 3:18 am

STATS will update the DL listings at 12:01 a.m. CST, each Friday and that will be the final update before Friday's games. If a player is not officially on the DL before then, he will not be allowed to be reserved even if a DL shows up next to his name during Friday. The official cutoff for this is 12:01 a.m. CST and no exceptions will be made.

http://www.fantasybaseballchampionship. ... es2006.asp

Greg Ambrosius · Post by **Greg Ambrosius** » Fri May 12, 2006 5:09 am

Originally posted by Diamond Dogs:

Will Matsui be placed on the DL now that he has a broken wrist? And will he placed on the list in time to utilize the Friday roster change option? It's unlikely that any player who gets hurt during a Thursday night game will be on MLB's DL list by midnight Friday. We don't just place guys who get hurt on the DL, they have to officially be placed there by the team and Major League Baseball. Sorry about the bad break, but best of luck the rest of the way.

JohnZ · Post by **JohnZ** » Fri May 12, 2006 9:22 am

Greg,

the next step in this game is a seperate IR list.

I'm not complaining about injuries. They are part of the game and "in-season" management is one of my strengths.

But I now have seven IR players on my seven-man reserve.

I can't really improve my team at the moment due to bad luck.

Maybe a 5-man reserve and an IR???

The off IR solution is easy. When Griffey comes off last night, Stats makes him active in every league unless already in the lineup. There is no grace period. If that puts an owner over the limit, roster is frozen (for lineups and trans) until they waive down to the limit. (A waive choice in current position pull down is all that needs to be added)

I've done this for years and it works well. No arguments and skill further tested with more decision making.

I shouldn't be put a competitive disadvantage just because of some bad luck.

bjoak · Post by **bjoak** » Fri May 12, 2006 10:57 am

But I now have seven IR players on my seven-man reserve.

JohnZ · Post by **JohnZ** » Fri May 12, 2006 11:28 am

I'd reply, but then you'd only cry to Greg again.

Joe Sambito · Post by **Joe Sambito** » Fri May 12, 2006 11:29 am

UFS,

I only count 6. One of which you just picked up off waivers last week while injured (Bannister) so really you have 5. That still leaves 2 reserved spots.

And yes it certainly sounds like your complaining. We have 4 guys on the DL. It is part of the game, and in this post-amphetamine era, it may become more part of the game, but that is life.

A reserved roster will take away from the free agent pool and it will allow alot more stashing of prospects and sleeper closers. Greg added the Friday DL rule (which I think was a nice little add), for a number of reasons, one of which was so that teams would consider carrying more major league contributors on their reserves. And people may value the Ryan Freel, Bill Hall, and Chone Figgins of the world more, just as real major league managers do.

Injuries are apart of the game, and sure it is possible to have more than 7 studs on the DL, but if that happens and you have that "bad of luck", then maybe 2006 just isn't your year. Hey, there is always next year, that is what us Red Sox fans said for 86 years.

I can't wait until next Sunday, when I can scoop Chad Orvella up as a little Tyler Walker insurance.

bjoak · Post by **bjoak** » Fri May 12, 2006 11:31 am

You can say whatever you'd like as you no longer have insider information on me, i.e. as long as you're not cheating, I don't care.

:rolleyes:

JohnZ · Post by **JohnZ** » Fri May 12, 2006 2:20 pm

Originally posted by Joe Sambito:

UFS,

I only count 6. One of which you just picked up off waivers last week while injured (Bannister) so really you have 5. That still leaves 2 reserved spots.

And yes it certainly sounds like your complaining. We have 4 guys on the DL. It is part of the game, and in this post-amphetamine era, it may become more part of the game, but that is life.

A reserved roster will take away from the free agent pool and it will allow alot more stashing of prospects and sleeper closers. Greg added the Friday DL rule (which I think was a nice little add), for a number of reasons, one of which was so that teams would consider carrying more major league contributors on their reserves. And people may value the Ryan Freel, Bill Hall, and Chone Figgins of the world more, just as real major league managers do.

Injuries are apart of the game, and sure it is possible to have more than 7 studs on the DL, but if that happens and you have that "bad of luck", then maybe 2006 just isn't your year. Hey, there is always next year, that is what us Red Sox fans said for 86 years.

I can't wait until next Sunday, when I can scoop Chad Orvella up as a little Tyler Walker insurance. I have 6 (Matsui, Cantu, Sweeney, Kotchman, Colon, Bannister), going on 7. Duchsherer is hurt also.

I'm not complaining at all.

I drafted most of my reserves to be injury replacements. I relish the challenege of overcoming any obstacles during the season.

I just want to be able to replace them. The current rules don't allow that. Do you know of any other game that does not have an IR?

"We already have a reserved roster where sleeper closers and prospects are stashed."

That's why I suggested five from the current seven :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

"And people may value the Ryan Freel, Bill Hall, and Chone Figgins of the world more, just as real major league managers do."

You forgot Cantu :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

JohnZ · Post by **JohnZ** » Fri May 12, 2006 2:30 pm

Originally posted by bjoak:

You can say whatever you'd like as you no longer have insider information on me, i.e. as long as you're not cheating, I don't care.

:rolleyes: Can you please explain this "insider information" thing?

JohnZ · Post by **JohnZ** » Fri May 12, 2006 2:46 pm

Originally posted by Joe Sambito:

[QB] UFS,

IIt is part of the game, and in this post-amphetamine era, it may become more part of the game, but that is life.All the more reason to add a DL.

And less FA activity is not correct.

1) the moving of players off and on creates movement the next week.

2) 30 down to 28 active means 420 players drafted.

I've run 16-team, 25 active for many years, that's 400 players. 95% of the teams make moves every week.

My initial post was simply a suggestion. Having 6 or 7 DL guys that I don't want to waive takes away the even playing field we should all be playing on.

Should I be forced to waive Matsui when he could be back in August? That just doesn't seem right.

And on that note, the waiving of real good players issue would go away also.

Moneymaker · Post by **Moneymaker** » Fri May 12, 2006 3:28 pm

I agree. I'd like to see an Injured Reserve position added to the NFBC.

bjoak · Post by **bjoak** » Fri May 12, 2006 3:33 pm

Info from the satellite draft before the main event, duh. If you want space on your team, you can start by dumping Bannister and Kotchman, duh again. I had Bannister on my team and dumped him on his head. He's a soft tosser who looked good in the minors and like crap in the majors. Maybe he can improve, but it's not worth hanging onto him, especially if you don't have the space. Kotchman never looked good, then got hyped up, and then sucked, just as he should have. I don't even see potential value there, not this year at least. Maybe he'll develop a little power in a couple years. By way of example, Kendrick is a far better player at a shallow position you could have probably dumped him for by now.

[ May 12, 2006, 09:34 PM: Message edited by: bjoak ]

Chest Rockwell · Post by **Chest Rockwell** » Fri May 12, 2006 3:43 pm

Not something I say a lot but I agree with Zaleski.

Injuries are part of the game but this at least would put everyone on the same page as far as roster flexibility.

I also thought posting people's sat info was bs.

sportsbettingman · Post by **sportsbettingman** » Fri May 12, 2006 7:55 pm

So correct me if I'm wrong...but it seems like all the whiners want to have instant roster replacements...or endless IR room.

What ever happened to the injuries to your team actually affecting your teams success???

Freaking whiners.

Waaaaa...I want mid-week adjustments to my roster...it's for the skill of the game.

Waaaaa...I want bigger IR spots...I'm so unlucky.

One roster adjustment per week for all (Mon)...skill is the same or better due to fairness in timing of injuries...please prove this statement wrong.

Bunch of whiners.

~Lance

bjoak · Post by **bjoak** » Fri May 12, 2006 8:14 pm

Yah, to weigh in on the actual conversation, picking healthy players is a skill. If you can't do it, you deserve the debit. Predicting health doesn't involve any more luck than predicting performance.

[ May 13, 2006, 02:15 AM: Message edited by: bjoak ]

Joe Sambito · Post by **Joe Sambito** » Sat May 13, 2006 12:56 am

UFS,

My experience(which is very limited compared to yours) has shown me that a 7-man reserved list is plenty used at an owner's disgression.

Specifically the inclusion of Bannister on your list of DL'd guys is laughable, because you picked him up 6 days ago, when he was already injured! And Duchscherer sounds like he'll be day-day with elbow tendinitis all year. So really I only consider you with 5 guys on the DL. I agree, if it came to a point where dropping Matsui was your most plausible option then that would be unfortunate. But you are stil atleast 3 or 4 more injuries away from that.

I just think addidng a specific IR adds to some potential high-jink and chicanery, in terms of picking up already DL'd guys and even some draft strategies. All those injury prone guys get a bump up, knowing that they won't cost you a reserve spot.

But in the end, the NFBC is the best format I have played in, against the best competition, and if Greg thought that a separate IR was the right move then so be it. We just play the cards were dealt.

Chest Rockwell · Post by **Chest Rockwell** » Sat May 13, 2006 4:06 am

Originally posted by bjoak:

Yah, to weigh in on the actual conversation, picking healthy players is a skill. If you can't do it, you deserve the debit. Predicting health doesn't involve any more luck than predicting performance. Not everyone is as good as you Brian- we have to even this field out a bit for us guys who do not have your brilliant analytical skills.

bjoak · Post by **bjoak** » Sat May 13, 2006 6:43 am

Originally posted by Chest Rockwell:

quote:Originally posted by bjoak:

Yah, to weigh in on the actual conversation, picking healthy players is a skill. If you can't do it, you deserve the debit. Predicting health doesn't involve any more luck than predicting performance. Not everyone is as good as you Brian- we have to even this field out a bit for us guys who do not have your brilliant analytical skills. [/QUOTE]Or at least not as consistent.

Lordy, he is holding a roster space with Duchscherer too. I didn't see that the first time. More wasting space.

I see that he also has 6 DL guys in our Feb 21 league. Goes a way to show again how health is a skill. Remember me warning you off of Sheffield because of health concerns?

eddiejag · Post by **eddiejag** » Sat May 13, 2006 8:41 am

I happen to agree with Bjoak, on this team. Cut Bannister and Cotchman, most likley nobody wants them ,and not much upside this year.We all have tough cuts, i have to maybe cut Orvella , or Anthony Reyes , because guys like M Alou and others are on my dl. They have more upside than your two.Your deciesion is easy , cut them , and then you will have room for two more players to ad to your team.I think the free agent pool is bad enough, leave it the way it is.

JohnZ · Post by **JohnZ** » Sat May 13, 2006 8:51 am

Originally posted by bjoak:

Info from the satellite draft before the main event, duh. Comedy. Why do you think anyone cares who you draft?

Do you really believe ANYONE is looking at YOUR draft and basing whom they are going to pick in ANY draft after that?

The world according to Bjoak :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

On Kotchman, based on your comments, you've never seen him hit when healthy. He's been playing with mono.

Bannister K'd 8 per 9 IP in the minors. I need the wins and he's on one of the best hitting teams in baseball.

He's had 5 decent starts and normal rookie jitters have led to a few more walks than normal. Probably the only league that cut him, and I beat FAAB by a $1, 52-51.

JohnZ · Post by **JohnZ** » Sat May 13, 2006 9:02 am

Originally posted by Chest Rockwell:

Not something I say a lot but I agree with Zaleski.

Injuries are part of the game but this at least would put everyone on the same page as far as roster flexibility.

Thanks...

Everyone should start the week with the same amount of players on their ACTIVE roster. I suggest 27 if an IR is implemented next year.

The only job a commish truly has is to create an even playing field. I can't manage my team on an even playing field at this moment due solely to bad luck with injuries.

This is just a suggestion. Just my opinion. I will be back next year. This isn't the end of the world and this is a great event.

I have not gotten further on this thread, but I need a ruling on Matsui. It would make me ill to release him (and I really have to) and have him help decide the outcome in Aug and/or Sept. if he comes back.

Joe Sambito · Post by **Joe Sambito** » Sat May 13, 2006 9:06 am

Still, I am not sure I agree you have to cut him. But we'll leave that in Greg's hands...

JohnZ · Post by **JohnZ** » Sat May 13, 2006 9:08 am

Originally posted by sportsbettingman:

So correct me if I'm wrong...but it seems like all the whiners want to have instant roster replacements...or endless IR room.

What ever happened to the injuries to your team actually affecting your teams success???

~Lance I'll correct you.

instant? No. Current method fine.

Endless? No. 10 max. FA's picked up on IR have to be active for a week if possible.

success? I drafted my entire 7 man reserve for injuries.

I want to be able to play the gane and compete still. I just don't throw in the towel becuase of some adversity.

I also have huge problem waiving some players that could alter the outcome of my league.

An even playing field for active rosters every week is done in every other league I play in. 11 total.

It's simply time for this event to explore it. If Greg decides it's not best, then so be it.

JohnZ · Post by **JohnZ** » Sat May 13, 2006 9:09 am

Originally posted by bjoak:

Yah, to weigh in on the actual conversation, picking healthy players is a skill. If you can't do it, you deserve the debit. Predicting health doesn't involve any more luck than predicting performance. Good point, that's why I drafted Matsui.