Week 9 FAAB Bids

Corkedbats · Post by **Corkedbats** » Tue May 31, 2005 2:16 pm

Ok thanks for the explanation.

Throops my 'lady'

SlackerDan · Post by **SlackerDan** » Tue May 31, 2005 2:19 pm

Dont worry about SlackerBrothers team, not like we really wanted Bonds anyways.

I am not a big fan of ROID rage.....ie Jason Giambi, I Rod (20 pounds of muscle gone in one summer - come on), Alex Sanchez and Barry Bonds, etc, etc, etc...

Evan and I will have to win LV9 without him and hopefully, if we ever get some pitching win the entire league.

Nice to know we have 401 more points to spend on middle men who might get to save a game once a year and double A pitchers who throw 96 miles an hour but cant find the plate

Looking forward to the rest of the season! Even without Bonds.

SlackerDan

Captain Hook · Post by **Captain Hook** » Tue May 31, 2005 2:47 pm

Perhaps the solution Greg is to have a DL so that teams don't have to cut a player, whether it's Bonds or Coco Crisp or even John Patterson when they feel their roster is squeezed with several players not playing.

Puffins · Post by **Puffins** » Tue May 31, 2005 3:19 pm

SlackerDan: Did you have conditional bids for other players that would have gone into effect if not for the Bonds bid?

Greg: Suppose Dan had a winning bid for Ryan Wagner as his conditional bid. Would you then give Wagner to Dan and take him away from whoever had won him originally? How would such a situation be handled?

JohnZ · Post by **JohnZ** » Tue May 31, 2005 7:25 pm

Originally posted by Captain Hook:

Perhaps the solution Greg is to have a DL so that teams don't have to cut a player, whether it's Bonds or Coco Crisp or even John Patterson when they feel their roster is squeezed with several players not playing. Have a DL,

and then reduce roster from by 3-4 "active" spots.

The moment a guy appears in a game, he's put on your active squad. period.

No trans or lineup changes until back at the limit.

Wire2Wire · Post by **Wire2Wire** » Tue May 31, 2005 7:59 pm

What about putting a RED FLAG next to a player that CANNOT be dropped. Decide who those players are, and just flag them, so even if someone attempted to drop them, stats systems would automaticly reject the drop/bid. A rule that all players drafted in the first 10 rounds or so would be ("franchise players") for their respective owners for the entire year

Maybe next year, if this is not possible this year.

Make a rule.... that these players can only be dropped if they are CONFIRMED-OUT for the YEAR... and not otherwise.

Bonds? I thought he retired did'nt he?

SlackerDan · Post by **SlackerDan** » Tue May 31, 2005 10:38 pm

I did bid on numerous other players however I did not bid heavy since I was gunning for bonds... I guess if I did bid large for Ryan Wagner and missed out on him we would have a whole other problem...I didnt, so I dont get him either.

No big deal, had a strong night last night so I feel alittle better

SlackerDan

Edwards Kings · Post by **Edwards Kings** » Wed Jun 01, 2005 12:29 am

I like the league the way it is. The seven reserve slots is enough space to park a DL prospect.

Also, if you see a player hit the waivers (Bonds, Ruth, Aaron, Gibson, Gooden) that you think might be questioned, ask Tom or Greg before you bid. I am sure they do not want nor ask to be informed of every planned roster move, but it might be appropriate in these big cases (like "Old Jelly Knees"...use your best judgement). As far as I can tell, the NFBC has always been very responsive.

Just another suck up.

:rolleyes:

Tom Kessenich · Post by **Tom Kessenich** » Wed Jun 01, 2005 12:59 am

Just an FYI for everyone this wasn't an instance of Greg missing the boat; this one was all on me. I checked the drops last week (Greg was out of town) and obviously missed Bonds. That was inexcusable and the blame goes directly to me. Greg is now remedying the situation in a way that is in the best interests of our overall event. It's not fair for the owner who picked up Bonds and now must drop him without having a chance to add someone like Ryan Wagner, but as Greg stated the overall integrity of our event cannot be compromised in any way. I certainly hope everyone, most notably the parties directly involved, can appreciate this even if they may not entirely agree with it.

So again, any blame for this mistake should not be directed at Greg but rather at me since it was my oversight which led to this situation.

[ June 01, 2005, 07:00 AM: Message edited by: Tom Kessenich ]

Gordon Gekko · Post by **Gordon Gekko** » Wed Jun 01, 2005 4:43 am

[ June 01, 2005, 10:44 AM: Message edited by: Gordon Gekko ]

JohnZ · Post by **JohnZ** » Wed Jun 01, 2005 6:34 am

Originally posted by Gordon Gekko:

Your best post ever!!

Wire2Wire · Post by **Wire2Wire** » Wed Jun 01, 2005 7:08 am

Originally posted by Gordon Gekko:

You really speak your peace Gekk!

Agreed.... Best Post ever

Gordon Gekko · Post by **Gordon Gekko** » Wed Jun 01, 2005 7:28 am

want to take a guess on who was posting as B.Bonds on Waivers?

[ June 01, 2005, 01:29 PM: Message edited by: Gordon Gekko ]

Gordon Gekko · Post by **Gordon Gekko** » Wed Jun 01, 2005 7:31 am

how bout this one...i'm still going to win the 100K in baseball

watch and see. sorry to break the news to you CC

crazytown · Post by **crazytown** » Wed Jun 01, 2005 9:00 am

I read it earlier this year regarding waived players but can't remember the answer. Once a player is released, he can't be bid on all year. He can't be on any teams roster. Why can't this be done?

Chest Rockwell · Post by **Chest Rockwell** » Wed Jun 01, 2005 10:21 am

Originally posted by Gordon Gekko:

how bout this one...i'm still going to win the 100K in baseball

watch and see. sorry to break the news to you CC I think you will too, looking forward to another picture with your best "Church Jeans" and a t shirt on. When I first saw the magazine I also thought why is Srebro being photographed with Ben Stein.

eddiejag · Post by **eddiejag** » Wed Jun 01, 2005 10:28 am

Just my thoughts , everybody had a chance to bid on him , and fiftysix was next. I dont like that we pick who can have value and who doesnt. Something has to be done.How about all the guys who cut co co crisp thinking he's out for the year, and nows he's back. Thats too bad you lose him no do overs.IVE seen some nice players out their who i cant believe were cut who i think will have more value then bonds.

LEW FORD FOR ONE a 20 20 guy with bavg.

AGAIN just my thoughts i didnt like the move.

BAD [ass] ANGELS

viper · Post by **viper** » Wed Jun 01, 2005 10:42 am

I have to admit, I would much prefer Lew Ford to Barry Bonds right now in the season. At least I know I will get a full 18 weeks worth of stats from him. Barry's status this week is a pure crap-shoot. ESPN has even taken Barry off their undroppable list. However, in the NFBC no-trade environment, I agree that Barry should be undroppable until at least the All-Star break. By then his actual status should be known.

This week Lew Ford was picked up in TWO leagues. Coco Crisp was also grabbed in two leagues.

[ June 01, 2005, 04:42 PM: Message edited by: viper ]

Dyv · Post by **Dyv** » Wed Jun 01, 2005 11:36 am

Originally posted by viper:

I have to admit, I would much prefer Lew Ford to Barry Bonds right now in the season. At least I know I will get a full 18 weeks worth of stats from him. Barry's status this week is a pure crap-shoot. ESPN has even taken Barry off their undroppable list. However, in the NFBC no-trade environment, I agree that Barry should be undroppable until at least the All-Star break. By then his actual status should be known.

This week Lew Ford was picked up in TWO leagues. Coco Crisp was also grabbed in two leagues. Barry is the man.

Stop talking like he's some 42 year old has been

CC's Desperados · Post by **CC's Desperados** » Wed Jun 01, 2005 11:50 am

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Gordon Gekko:

[QB] how bout this one...i'm still going to win the 100K in baseball

watch and see. sorry to break the news to you CC

Gordon, I don't think Tampa Bay could win that pitching staff. Maybe next year! You also look a little short in batting Avg. Only if you had gotten Bonds and he hit .370. I think if becomes availible, 402 is the bid!! Good Luck

bjoak · Post by **bjoak** » Wed Jun 01, 2005 11:54 am

So Dyv,

Do you really think it's possible Bonds will hit those 25 second half homers between the first inning of his comeback game and the seventh when he goes down with an injury?...

...Or, if you prefer, between his comeback game on September 23 and the final game on October 2nd.

Then again, the Giants medical staff has worked miracles before. Look at what they did with Robb Nen. Dyv, were you holding onto him all last year, telling everybody he'd get 10 saves in September? Tell the truth.

While I'm here, I'd like to congratulate everyone who picked up the Big Ouch I'm Hurt Again in the draft. That really worked out.

JerseyPaul · Post by **JerseyPaul** » Wed Jun 01, 2005 12:18 pm

Have to say it 1 more time....

Nobody should be required to keep a player he doesn't want.

The right solution is to not allow certain players to be picked up... a "no-add" list, as opposed to a "no-drop" list. Current solution, overturning drops... just plain wrong.

Puffins · Post by **Puffins** » Wed Jun 01, 2005 12:23 pm

Originally posted by JerseyPaul:

Have to say it 1 more time....

Nobody should be required to keep a player he doesn't want.

The right solution is to not allow certain players to be picked up... a "no-add" list, as opposed to a "no-drop" list. Current solution, overturning drops... just plain wrong. The problem with this is that those leagues would then have shallower free agent pools, making it slightly harder to compete in the overall. But I agree this solution is better than the alternatives.

bjoak · Post by **bjoak** » Wed Jun 01, 2005 12:47 pm

It certainly is a better solution. Bonds could conceivably come back, but apparently last year Brian Roberts wasn't allowed to be dropped. I'm sure his owner wasn't too happy to get sacked with the .246 average and 1 stolen base in September or the seven stolen bases in the second half for that matter.

Since we're apparently evaluating players based on what they do in April, rather than over their careers, the same thing could happen this year after Roberts sucks for the next two months.

Of course, I'll admit that I wouldn't take Roberts in the first place so his owner must see the same value that the administrators here see and maybe it wouldn't make sense to drop him in any event. But in that case, we could say that no player should be dropped. Oh boy, I have a headache now.

sportsbettingman · Post by **sportsbettingman** » Wed Jun 01, 2005 1:13 pm

If Bonds gets healthy enough to play up to HIS standards...he's an easy top 2 rounder from that point of the season on.

If you have all players on your bench better than that...you win the argument...if not...no argument...keep Bonds.

~Lance