Another night, another draft

ALL-IN JD · Post by **ALL-IN JD** » Wed Mar 07, 2007 2:33 am

This time it was the 1K Satellite picking out of the 11 hole:

Pos Name Team Pick

C Josh Bard SD R20 P5

C Brian Schneider WAS R29 P11

1B Wes Helms PHI R15 P11

2B Brian Roberts BAL R3 P11

2B Jorge Cantu TB R14 P5

SS Bill Hall MIL R4 P5

3B Alex Gordon KC R9 P11

3B Akinori Iwamura TB R16 P5

3B B.J. Upton TB R17 P11

OF Vladimir Guerrero ANA R1 P11

OF Matt Holliday COL R2 P5

OF Corey Patterson BAL R5 P11

OF Chris Young ARI R10 P5

OF Carlos Quentin ARI R13 P11

OF Nelson Cruz TEX R23 P11

OF Scott Thorman ATL R25 P11

P Ben Sheets MIL R6 P5

P Rich Harden OAK R7 P11

P Aaron Harang CIN R8 P5

P Jose Valverde ARI R11 P11

P Salomon Torres PIT R12 P5

P Ted Lilly CHC R18 P5

P Dan Wheeler HOU R19 P11

P David Weathers CIN R21 P11

P Scott Linebrink SD R22 P5

P James Shields TB R24 P5

P Adam Eaton PHI R26 P5

P Brandon McCarthy TEX R27 P11

P Todd Coffey CIN R28 P5

P Al Reyes TB R30 P5

Chest Rockwell · Post by **Chest Rockwell** » Wed Mar 07, 2007 2:43 am

Originally posted by fireballs:

This time it was the 1K Satellite picking out of the 11 hole:

Pos Name Team Pick

C Josh Bard SD R20 P5

C Brian Schneider WAS R29 P11

1B Wes Helms PHI R15 P11

2B Brian Roberts BAL R3 P11

2B Jorge Cantu TB R14 P5

SS Bill Hall MIL R4 P5

3B Alex Gordon KC R9 P11

3B Akinori Iwamura TB R16 P5

3B B.J. Upton TB R17 P11

OF Vladimir Guerrero ANA R1 P11

OF Matt Holliday COL R2 P5

OF Corey Patterson BAL R5 P11

OF Chris Young ARI R10 P5

OF Carlos Quentin ARI R13 P11

OF Nelson Cruz TEX R23 P11

OF Scott Thorman ATL R25 P11

P Ben Sheets MIL R6 P5

P Rich Harden OAK R7 P11

P Aaron Harang CIN R8 P5

P Jose Valverde ARI R11 P11

P Salomon Torres PIT R12 P5

P Ted Lilly CHC R18 P5

P Dan Wheeler HOU R19 P11

P David Weathers CIN R21 P11

P Scott Linebrink SD R22 P5

P James Shields TB R24 P5

P Adam Eaton PHI R26 P5

P Brandon McCarthy TEX R27 P11

P Todd Coffey CIN R28 P5

P Al Reyes TB R30 P5 In my opinion that team is pretty bad- I do not like 4 of your first five picks relative to where you took them. 1b is not exactly a position you want to be a black hole. Your catchers have to be among the weakest in the league, you do not have anything resembling a number one closer and risk struggling in saves, you have terrible injury risk at the front of the rotation, a serious possible void in the back of your rotation, possible speed issues if Patterson somehow does not steal 40, and with Patterson and Hall picked so early batting avg could be an issue too- lots of other batting average risk.

What did I like? What you did at 3b- one of those guys will stick and help you a lot, maybe two which you will need with an open corner infield slot.

I will end with my usual disclaimer- this is one man's opinion, and if I am correct I would rather you hear it now than after the main event.

Chest Rockwell · Post by **Chest Rockwell** » Wed Mar 07, 2007 2:46 am

After a second look I do not think stolen bases will be an issue, you have some guys with upside there.

ALL-IN JD · Post by **ALL-IN JD** » Wed Mar 07, 2007 2:51 am

Chest, thanks for your opinion, its always appreciated, and couldnt disagree more. Love getting Holliday at 2,5 and his first round value. Giddy about MI. If healthy (huge if) I love my top 3 starters. Not overly concerned with saves because that can be addressed in FAAB. As you say, just one mans opinion

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ALL-IN JD · Post by **ALL-IN JD** » Wed Mar 07, 2007 2:53 am

I actually have myself finishing first in steals (tough for you to see without seeing the rest of the rosters)

Quahogs · Post by **Quahogs** » Wed Mar 07, 2007 3:11 am

i think you put together a solid base 1-4. The Draft picks 11 thru 15 can make it difficult to continue building out the offense in rds 3 and 4 if none of the top 35 offensive players fall to you. Hitters may feel like reaches at that point but you have to grab someone.

Q

ALL-IN JD · Post by **ALL-IN JD** » Wed Mar 07, 2007 3:18 am

Q, was really happy to snap up Roberts and Hall to fill out my MI with plenty of power and speed. Patterson might have been a reach late in round 5 but he could be 20-40, so I thought he was worth the "reach"

Quahogs · Post by **Quahogs** » Wed Mar 07, 2007 3:53 am

Originally posted by fireballs:

Q, was really happy to snap up Roberts and Hall to fill out my MI with plenty of power and speed. Patterson might have been a reach late in round 5 but he could be 20-40, so I thought he was worth the "reach" Patterson might regress slightly because of Payton cutting into his time. But he's still in his comfort zone from last season - green light/hitting lower in order. So he sits some against tough lefties... you dont want his 0-4's against Santana and Kazmir anyway.

Q

ALL-IN JD · Post by **ALL-IN JD** » Wed Mar 07, 2007 3:55 am

Absolutely no problem him sitting against tough lefties. Should still get atleast 450 AB's.

Philly CheeseSteaks · Post by **Philly CheeseSteaks** » Wed Mar 07, 2007 4:01 am

We picked in the number 8 hole for $1000 League for 3/6/07

Wanted Utley went 5th and being a Phillies fan we passed on Howard-(this was really hard but used our heads not heart--I sat and talked with him for a few mintues last year during lunch in a subway store in center city Phila., he was by himself--fine youing man

)-went 9th---looking for 5 tool player in 1st round.

Avoid injury bug with Viquel and Mora and Flyer on Steriod-oops Sammy Sosa in round 28 and hope to add "OF" FAAB. Wanted R. Winn in 17 but drafted right before for extra help in SB late.

Couple starters went right before our pick that we wanted.

Closer run a couple of times and the releif pitcher teams took set up man in mid rounds.

Comment 2Teams went with most if not all relief pitchers---real close to 600 IP

Ilike the team nad feel we can be in the top third of most catergories.

Welcome comments---good prep for Main Event on 3/17

Pos Name Team Pick

C Ronny Paulino PIT R18 P8

C Gregg Zaun TOR R21 P8

1B Paul Konerko CHW R3 P8

2B Josh Barfield CLE R6 P8

2B Craig Biggio HOU R26 P8

SS Hanley Ramirez FLA R2 P8

SS Omar Vizquel SF R14 P8

3B David Wright NYM R1 P8

3B Melvin Mora BAL R15 P8

3B Pedro Feliz SF R23 P8

OF Raul Ibanez SEA R8 P8

OF Magglio Ordonez DET R10 P8

OF Josh Willingham FLA R12 P8

OF Xavier Nady PIT R17 P8

OF Luis Gonzalez LA R20 P8

OF Sammy Sosa TEX R28 P8

P John Smoltz ATL R4 P8

P Takashi Saito LA R5 P8

P Matthew Cain SF R7 P8

P Bob Wickman ATL R9 P8

P Mike Mussina NYY R11 P8

P Adam Wainwright STL R13 P8

P Chuck James ATL R16 P8

P Tim Hudson ATL R19 P8

P Jason Jennings HOU R22 P8

P Jon Lieber PHI R24 P8

P Jorge Julio ARI R25 P8

P Joe Nelson KC R27 P8

P Jamie Moyer PHI R29 P8

P Woody Williams HOU R30 P8

Thanks---John Hogan

ALL-IN JD · Post by **ALL-IN JD** » Wed Mar 07, 2007 4:05 am

John, really like the Konerko and Barfield picks. Was a long draft though. Good luck.

Kimo · Post by **Kimo** » Wed Mar 07, 2007 4:13 am

I got stuck with Howard with the 9th pick.

I'm looking for 45 maybe more bombs with .300 ave.

Bobby J · Post by **Bobby J** » Wed Mar 07, 2007 11:08 am

Fireballs - big risks with Sheets and Harden, too many injury issues to rely on them as 1 and 2 starters, if healthy they are studs, but they have to be healthy first. You can 7 guys on your roster w/less than 1 year MLB experience, very risky to go along with Sheets and Harden. If they all play up to their hype, you can be in the money, but if a couple fall short, you will be chasing all year. C and 1B are horrible, need a quality 1B in these drafts, the rest of the pitching staffs ERA is going to br 4.5 plus

Bobby J · Post by **Bobby J** » Wed Mar 07, 2007 11:12 am

Philly - passed on Howard at the number 8 spot, you probably will not see another draft that he is still there at 8. A 1B of his caliber can only be found in about 5 teams. Should not have passed on him. Hopefully you will never have to use Biggio, Mora or Feliz, there BA will just kill you. OF is pretty week. I absolutely love the SP, I think Hudson, Jennings adn James will suprise alot where they are available. Both closer are over 35 and no guarantees to last the entire year. Should have picked at least one closer that is a lock to close all year, taking these 2 you could have 70 saves or 10 saves, if they faulter early

Bobby J · Post by **Bobby J** » Wed Mar 07, 2007 11:13 am

Kimo - sorry to hear about your bad luck and getting stuck with Howard at 9, I think about 25 teams can only wish to have the same bad luck next weekend

eddiejag · Post by **eddiejag** » Wed Mar 07, 2007 12:16 pm

I cant believe you passed up Howard for Wright.I dont care about his twenty steals ,you can pick them up later.

Howard's 2nd half numbers 31 homers and 81 rbi's witha 339 bavg. THAT IS A MONSTER

Wright's 2nd half numbers 8 homers 52 rbi's and a 293 bavg.THAT IS A SQUIRT GUN.

Howard is a freak , you get the bavg to go with the BABE RUTH POWER NUMBERS.

Vander · Post by **Vander** » Wed Mar 07, 2007 2:31 pm

Kimo was the recipient of many good things falling to him last night.

Kimo · Post by **Kimo** » Wed Mar 07, 2007 5:35 pm

Originally posted by Vander:

Kimo was the recipient of many good things falling to him last night. Man, that was a tough draft last night. Sometimes it took 6 minutes for 2 owners to make 4 total picks. Nothing worse than having owners taking the full amount of time on all of their picks, especially at the end and beginning of each round.

Unbelieveable job done by Mock Draft Central. Anytime there is a problem, they are there to help. I don't know how they did it. I paid $1000 to draft and I had a hard time following it.

Vander, it is the kiss of death. Everytime someone says, Great Pick. I used to love it when other owners said great pick Kimo. Now, I just get worried when I hear it. But thanks for the comment.

How in the hell am I going to get through the 45 man draft? That is going to take, like 10 hours.

Tom says I can get a partner. I am taking applications for a partner for the 45 man draft. No way can I last.

Also, I never shoveled snow in my life. Thats the mock draft message board comments, shoveling snow. Damn, you guys are going to be in good physical shape when I see you guys in Vegas.

See everyone soon.

ALL-IN JD · Post by **ALL-IN JD** » Wed Mar 07, 2007 6:20 pm

Had my last and final tune up tonight in the $500 draft, picked 11th, again:

Pos Name Team Pick

C Rod Barajas PHI R24 P5

C Miguel Montero ARI R26 P5

1B Adrian Gonzalez SD R9 P11

1B Mike Jacobs FLA R15 P11

1B Ben Broussard SEA R28 P5

2B Robinson Cano NYY R5 P11

2B Dustin Pedroia BOS R27 P11

SS Kazuo Matsui NYM R17 P11

3B David Wright NYM R1 P11

3B Freddy Sanchez PIT R11 P11

OF Carlos Lee HOU R2 P5

OF Juan Pierre LA R3 P11

OF Delmon Young TB R6 P5

OF Carlos Quentin ARI R12 P5

OF Brad Wilkerson TEX R16 P5

OF Nelson Cruz TEX R21 P11

OF Terrmel Sledge SD R25 P11

P Chris Carpenter STL R4 P5

P Cole Hamels PHI R7 P11

P Tom Gordon PHI R8 P5

P Dan Haren OAK R10 P5

P Ian Snell PIT R13 P11

P Kelvim Escobar ANA R14 P5

P Scot Shields ANA R18 P5

P Dan Wheeler HOU R19 P11

P Scott Linebrink SD R20 P5

P Bob Howry CHC R22 P5

P Brandon McCarthy TEX R23 P11

P Al Reyes TB R29 P11

P Yovani Gallardo MIL R30 P5

Bobby J · Post by **Bobby J** » Thu Mar 08, 2007 1:37 am

I think you are in a lot of trouble with this one, you have nothing up the middle, Cano at 2B, you have to use Sanchez at SS and you have no backups in the middle, the OF has a lot to live up to. Pitching is a mess after the first 3 starters and only 1 closer. Looks to be a bottom 5 team, sorry

Bobby J · Post by **Bobby J** » Thu Mar 08, 2007 1:57 am

I actually ran some numbers and it is not as bad as I thought, average and steals are ok and ERA and K's are 3rd - 5th. So it looks like 7th thru 10th place team. You are still hurting in R, HR and RBI's big time

Chest Rockwell · Post by **Chest Rockwell** » Thu Mar 08, 2007 2:18 am

Originally posted by Bobby J:

I think you are in a lot of trouble with this one, you have nothing up the middle, Cano at 2B, you have to use Sanchez at SS and you have no backups in the middle, the OF has a lot to live up to. Pitching is a mess after the first 3 starters and only 1 closer. Looks to be a bottom 5 team, sorry I do not see how you could call that pitching a mess- first thing those first 3 starters should buy you some insurance, but Snell and Escobar are more than adequate back of the rotation guys. He may not have a 2nd closer but he does have some relievers that he can start and not hurt himself.

I like that team a lot better than your last one-

ALL-IN JD · Post by **ALL-IN JD** » Thu Mar 08, 2007 2:27 am

Bobby J, thanks for your thoughts but my pitching is a mess??? Carpenter, Hamels and Haren are a mess??? Escobar and Snell arent a solid fourth ansd fifth option?? Id be glad to bet you $1 that I finish a helluva lot higher than 7th to 10th. Also, Cano and Sanchez are a lousy MI combo?? Hows that. Also, I think you were in the league last night as well (if not, my bad) but what do you think of your squad? How does Lackey, Myers and Lowe stack up to Carpenter/Hamels/Haren? Millwood and Helmslwey as 4/5 starters?

ALL-IN JD · Post by **ALL-IN JD** » Thu Mar 08, 2007 2:30 am

Thanks Chest. Im really, really happy about the staff. Had no intention of taking a pitcher high but Carpenter fell ito my lap at 4.5. Haren also fell to me, when I drafted him. Since I didnt think steals were necessary from my MI I was pleased to get Cano/Sanchez. Should get over 1000 AB's from them and a .320 BA. Little worried about power but if Jacobs and A Gonzo can come through I should be okay. Only 1 closer but some of the best setup guys that can possibly vulture saves

Quahogs · Post by **Quahogs** » Thu Mar 08, 2007 3:17 am

if you land pick 11 in the Ultimate you're going to be one tough out !

Q