opinions on slot 7 Feb 25th draft

jamesmaples · Post by **jamesmaples** » Thu Feb 26, 2009 1:33 pm

1B Billy Butler R14

1B Jason Giambi R16

2B Dan Uggla R5

2B Akinori Iwamura R27

3B Chone Figgins R8

3B Scott Rolen R25

SS Miguel Tejada R11

SS Yuniesky Betancourt R22

C Joe Mauer R4

C Ramon Hernandez R15

OF Ryan Braun R1

OF Carl Crawford R2

OF Alex Rios R3

OF David DeJesus R17

Of Chase Headley R18

OF Aaron Rowand R21

OF Michael Cuddyer R24

OF Jordan Schafer R29

DH Kendry Morales R19

SP Ervin Santana R6

SP Chad Billingsley R7

SP Scott Kazmir R9

SP Clayton Kershaw R13

SP Anibal Sanchez R23

SP Brad Penny R26

SP Freddy Garcia R30

RP Kerry Wood R10

RP Frank Francisco R12

RP Chris Ray R20

I would appreciate some thoughts. I had the 7th pick.

Joe Sambito · Post by **Joe Sambito** » Fri Feb 27, 2009 2:39 am

Outfielders 1,2,3 All solid, compensated with some good infield depth, but by doing so left the pitching staff awfully thin. I only count 10 bodies. Four of which, could be on the DL in a month and it wouldn't surprise anyone. At the end of the day, this pitching will keep you out of the top five(probably even top 7) in your league.

EliGrimmett · Post by **EliGrimmett** » Fri Feb 27, 2009 2:53 am

That's great to hear about his pitching staff! I'm in his league and mine is possibly even shoddier. Haha.

Actually, there's a good chance on that. It's gonna be a long season (but that's why we all love this game anyway).

MichiganFantasyTeam · Post by **MichiganFantasyTeam** » Fri Feb 27, 2009 12:50 pm

I think this team is very solid. I really like the advice joe usually gives, so I think this is a first for me disagreeing with him. He likes your outfielders and I like your pitching. How can you not like over 600 k's from your top 3 pitchers? I think this team is really balanced and has a chance of doing some serious damage. The only thing it lacks is ba. How can I say your team can do some serious damage and have a so-so ba...I still haven't figured that out?

jamesmaples · Post by **jamesmaples** » Fri Feb 27, 2009 3:20 pm

I agree that my last three starters are weak. I just don't know who is going to kill my batting avg. other than Giambi and Hernandez

jamesmaples · Post by **jamesmaples** » Fri Feb 27, 2009 3:21 pm

Forgot about Uggla on BA

Top Dawg · Post by **Top Dawg** » Fri Feb 27, 2009 3:26 pm

I was in your league too. I like your team. I tried to wait on closers and before I knew it I had none at all. In a "stand alone" league I guess tanking a category is not out of the question, but can never be done in the main event.

From 13 I got this team:

C: Wieters and Possada

1st: Derek Lee

2nd: Utley

3rd: Chris Davis

SS: Michael Young

CI: Mike Jacobs (Overbay/Feliz)

MI: Elvis Andres (Bartlett/Izturis)

OF: Soriano

OF: McLouth

OF: Crisp

OF: Cody Ross

OF: Willingham (Francisco/Freel/Giles)

UT: Anyone above in ()

SP: Oswalt

SP: Shields

SP: Wainwright

SP: Nolesco

SP: Cain

SP: Wang

SP: Buehrle

SP: Sonnanstein

RP: Putz (decided his value was good in round 23)

Extra pitcher: Wakefield

I took hitting as 6 of my 7 reserves. I feel pitching is almost always available and will make some early moves as positions settle.

Best of luck to the rest of my league teams.

Pete

P.S. - this is the wrong forum for posting your team... Just noticed.

[ February 27, 2009, 09:28 PM: Message edited by: Top Dawg ]

jamesmaples · Post by **jamesmaples** » Fri Feb 27, 2009 3:32 pm

I agree that pitching can be picked up via FAAB. I made sure this year that I had backups on offense but I should have drafted one more pitcher. I like your team other than saves category and look forward to the season.

616Fantasyguy · Post by **616Fantasyguy** » Fri Feb 27, 2009 7:37 pm

I was in your league as well.

There were no relief pitchers because that guy in our draft employed the all reliever strategy. I was just glad I jumped a couple of relievers early. From the 9 spot I ended up with:

C - Kurt Suzuku and Jarrod Saltalamacchia

1B - Miguel Cabrera

2B - Mike Aviles

SS - Stephen Drew

3B - Melvin Mora

MI - Orlando Hudson

CI - Mike Lowell

OF - Nick Markakis

OF - Shane Victorino

OF - Nelson Cruz

OF - Ryan Church

OF - Nick Swisher

U - Troy Glaus (Daniel Murphy until he comes back)

P - Johan Santana

P - Josh Beckett

P - Justin Verlander

P - Max Scherzer

P - David Price

P - Armando Galarraga

P - Kyle Davies

P - Brad Lidge

P - Joakim Soria

My injury possibilities scare me.

Spyhunter · Post by **Spyhunter** » Fri Feb 27, 2009 11:44 pm

I vote for James as the most balanced and strongest. Sure there are a few weak slots but in a any decent league with 15 there should be. I don't like Tejada this year at all, but love some other picks (anibal sanchez!). While not perfect, and a little hopeful on old players, he has good players at IF/OUT/Starting/Closing, so he can just fill in throughout the season imho

Can the other guys add where you picked people? Makes it easier to see value picks

Spy

MichiganFantasyTeam · Post by **MichiganFantasyTeam** » Sat Feb 28, 2009 12:35 am

Of course Giambi, Uggla and Hernandez are the obvious batting average decliners, but I think Scott Rolen and Rowand might hurt it as well.

Over the past 2 seasons Rolen's average was .263, and Rowand's had a batting average of .271 last year. I am not saying these averages are terrible as you have plenty of high batting average players to make up for it.

I think your older players have upside besides Giambi, which is a rare thing to accomplish when selecting older players on draft day.

Overall, like I wrote before...don't underestimate this team, it's solid.

MichiganFantasyTeam · Post by **MichiganFantasyTeam** » Sat Feb 28, 2009 12:43 am

I just looked at the other teams in your league posted, I think you guys might have your work cut-out for you if all the teams are that balanced. Nice drafting by all of you, your standings will be a nail bitter at the end.

Thanks for posting guys

billywaz · Post by **billywaz** » Sat Feb 28, 2009 12:54 am

Originally posted by 616Fantasyguy:

I was in your league as well.

There were no relief pitchers because that guy in our draft employed the all reliever strategy. I was just glad I jumped a couple of relievers early. From the 9 spot I ended up with:

C - Kurt Suzuku and Jarrod Saltalamacchia

1B - Miguel Cabrera

2B - Mike Aviles

SS - Stephen Drew

3B - Melvin Mora

MI - Orlando Hudson

CI - Mike Lowell

OF - Nick Markakis

OF - Shane Victorino

OF - Nelson Cruz

OF - Ryan Church

OF - Nick Swisher

U - Troy Glaus (Daniel Murphy until he comes back)

P - Johan Santana

P - Josh Beckett

P - Justin Verlander

P - Max Scherzer

P - David Price

P - Armando Galarraga

P - Kyle Davies

P - Brad Lidge

P - Joakim Soria

My injury possibilities scare me. If Beckett stays healthy, Verlander rebounds, and the kids (Scherzer and Price) are for real....you should DOMINATE pitching. A lot of "if's", but there is tons of upside with that team and two top 5 closers to boot!

Since that is dominant, your hitting is a bit weak. HR's look short, and SB's appear to be in double digits right now. You'll need to get A LOT few breaks on FAAB for hitting, but again, the upside on your pitching looks really good!

Out of curiousity, I assume you started with Miggy, Santana, Markakis, Victorino....

How did rounds 5-7 play out??? I am guessing it was Lidge, Soria, and Beckett, but in what order??? Thanks!!!

[ February 28, 2009, 06:59 AM: Message edited by: billywaz ]

jamesmaples · Post by **jamesmaples** » Sat Feb 28, 2009 1:59 am

Originally posted by k27orourke:

Of course Giambi, Uggla and Hernandez are the obvious batting average decliners, but I think Scott Rolen and Rowand might hurt it as well.

Over the past 2 seasons Rolen's average was .263, and Rowand's had a batting average of .271 last year. I am not saying these averages are terrible as you have plenty of high batting average players to make up for it.

I think your older players have upside besides Giambi, which is a rare thing to accomplish when selecting older players on draft day.

Overall, like I wrote before...don't underestimate this team, it's solid. I love hearing everyones thoughts on our draft but as far as Rolen and Rowand go they are reserves at the moment. What place do you project me to finish in BA in my league with the guys that I have?

616Fantasyguy · Post by **616Fantasyguy** » Sat Feb 28, 2009 3:13 am

You were right on where I took the first 4 guys .. I then got Drew in 5 Lidge in 6 Soria in 7 and Beckett in 8.

I think I will be lower in SB, but could have good HR totals. Considering Aviles hit 20 last year between AAA and the majors and Nelson Cruz hit 44 HR's last year. I'm counting on 16 - 18 from Aviles and 22 - 27 from Cruz. With that said I should be at 30 + from Miggy, 20 + from a healthy Glaus, a healthy Lowell should be a little under 20, Stephen Drew should be around 20, Markakis should be around 20 with the potential for 25, a healthy Mora is around 20, Nick Swisher will be over 20, Ryan Church should be around 12- 15 with a potential for 20 if he can stay healthy. He hit 12 in 90 games last year. Then I don't know what to expect from Viciedo and Hoffapuir. Both have great upside on power but neither have a starting spot. I also don't know what to expect from Salty. I'm hoping he can bring his average up and play most days. I could then expect 9 or 10 from him. I know the potential is there for the HR #'s, but like I said in my original post ... health is my concern. I could easily hit 240 HR's though with this starting squad.

billywaz · Post by **billywaz** » Sat Feb 28, 2009 5:02 am

Originally posted by 616Fantasyguy:

You were right on where I took the first 4 guys .. I then got Drew in 5 Lidge in 6 Soria in 7 and Beckett in 8.

I think I will be lower in SB, but could have good HR totals. Considering Aviles hit 20 last year between AAA and the majors and Nelson Cruz hit 44 HR's last year. I'm counting on 16 - 18 from Aviles and 22 - 27 from Cruz. With that said I should be at 30 + from Miggy, 20 + from a healthy Glaus, a healthy Lowell should be a little under 20, Stephen Drew should be around 20, Markakis should be around 20 with the potential for 25, a healthy Mora is around 20, Nick Swisher will be over 20, Ryan Church should be around 12- 15 with a potential for 20 if he can stay healthy. He hit 12 in 90 games last year. Then I don't know what to expect from Viciedo and Hoffapuir. Both have great upside on power but neither have a starting spot. I also don't know what to expect from Salty. I'm hoping he can bring his average up and play most days. I could then expect 9 or 10 from him. I know the potential is there for the HR #'s, but like I said in my original post ... health is my concern. I could easily hit 240 HR's though with this starting squad. I totally forgot about Drew. Beckett in the 8th AND Soria in the 7th.....WOW!!

As for your HR's, I think 220-230 is more realistic, and that is going to put you well short in the power and RBI race.

Just my opinion.

eddiejag · Post by **eddiejag** » Sat Feb 28, 2009 5:39 am

Just at a quick glance the thing that stuck out was getting Iwamura in the 27th round.He play's everyday hit's for good avg ,scored over 90 run's and could easly get 10 homers with 10 steal's.He went in the 18th round in the Childs league and 20th round in the KJ Duke league.I also like this team as i like his pitcher's especially Kazmir in the 9th round.He also got the two closer's so it's a very balanced team.

Hard Heads · Post by **Hard Heads** » Sat Feb 28, 2009 9:36 am

Originally posted by eddiejag:

Just at a quick glance the thing that stuck out was getting Iwamura in the 27th round.He play's everyday hit's for good avg ,scored over 90 run's and could easly get 10 homers with 10 steal's.He went in the 18th round in the Childs league and 20th round in the KJ Duke league.I also like this team as i like his pitcher's especially Kazmir in the 9th round.He also got the two closer's so it's a very balanced team. Funny thing when discussing this team I noticed that as well with Akinori. He actually has more value at MI then Betancourt taken 5 rounds earlier.

751542 · Post by **751542** » Sat Feb 28, 2009 9:46 am

funny thing everyone talks of "all" this value for a guy who is "rumored" to be moving down in the lineup ...to "improve his VALUE???" even more....hmmm?? 3 weeks to the show guys better keep doing your research!!!

Hard Heads · Post by **Hard Heads** » Sat Feb 28, 2009 11:36 am

Originally posted by RoundTrippers:

funny thing everyone talks of "all" this value for a guy who is "rumored" to be moving down in the lineup ...to "improve his VALUE???" even more....hmmm?? 3 weeks to the show guys better keep doing your research!!! Rumor schmumor. I also heard Manny was signing with the Giants. Choose what you want to believe I say.

751542 · Post by **751542** » Sat Feb 28, 2009 12:39 pm

sounds like comments from either a iwamuara owner or someone who is ill prepared...maybe u should be studying and not surfing the boards...oh yeah ...no more free info...i will let u sink later!!! some rumors do come true!!! upton in the leadoff a free tidbit for ya!!!

Hard Heads · Post by **Hard Heads** » Sat Feb 28, 2009 12:57 pm

No Akinori owner here sir. LOL 3 drafts down and no need for him yet as I draft better MI then that.

Enter I have Rickie Weeks on 2 teams joke here....

751542 · Post by **751542** » Sat Feb 28, 2009 12:57 pm

hardheads you know i am only messn with ya...nothing wrong with a bit of smack talk b4 the main evnt!!!

Hard Heads · Post by **Hard Heads** » Sat Feb 28, 2009 1:11 pm

Knowing what little(no pun intended big guy LOL) I do about you RT, I assumed you were having some fun. I have read a lot of talk about Upton leading off and when he returns in May and Akinori has or has not struggled will determine alot. Upton does have the OBP and speed to succeed there for sure! See you in 3 weeks.

751542 · Post by **751542** » Sat Feb 28, 2009 1:14 pm

i actually have never been impressed with what i have seen from iwamura esp at the plate. upton is a much better fit there to exploit his speed and to wreak havoc from the top....am i showing my hand...big upton fan this year!!