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Gordon Gekko · Post by **Gordon Gekko** » Tue Mar 09, 2004 8:58 am

Originally posted by Greg Ambrosius:

Gordon, a financial whiz like you should be able to add 1 to my Midwestern times. Since KP and STATS are in the Central Time Zone, I'm sticking with that. Again, just add one to my numbers. That suggestion was to benefit the “limited intelligence” owners.

Dyv · Post by **Dyv** » Tue Mar 09, 2004 9:12 am

Originally posted by Greg Ambrosius:

I think we'll get there as those crazy Leaderboard Sports guys have all kinds of money!! I'll talk Dyv into buying another team and bidding against himself.. Hmm, I've done 2 live drafts online at the same time before, but I've never drafted two teams in the same league in a real person live draft. Let me see if I can get the Coors Light Twins to be my co-managers and make that work for a double entry

Dyv

Greg Ambrosius · Post by **Greg Ambrosius** » Tue Mar 09, 2004 9:22 am

No, you wouldn't be in the same league, so as to avoid collusion. You would be drafting in separate leagues. Can you do it Sybil?

Dyv · Post by **Dyv** » Tue Mar 09, 2004 10:46 am

Originally posted by Greg Ambrosius:

No, you wouldn't be in the same league, so as to avoid collusion. You would be drafting in separate leagues. Can you do it Sybil?

Damn, I'd have to sit back to back in the right draft spots at tables next to each other, lol.

I'm crazy... I'll do 3 drafts in 2 days, but I just can't see doing two at the same time

Dave

Draftboard Guy · Post by **Draftboard Guy** » Tue Mar 09, 2004 4:21 pm

I see a few messages asking about the player labels that will be used. First, each player will only be printed at only ONE position, regardless of how many positions he is eligible at. Can you imagine the mess there would be if you had 3 Craig Wilson stickers? He could possibly be picked multiple times in one league. The whole idea of stickers is to limit a player from being picked twice, and to color code him. Multiple position players are printed at the position they played the most games at last year. Also, it is a fact that you will see players printed at a position that they do not have a minimum of 20 games at. Again, the concept of color coding is a visual check at a glance to see what someone has selected, but I do not tailor labels for every league's position eleigibility, or I would be making a multitude of sets of labels. As it stands now, I make 8 different sets of player labels, comprising 93 spread sheets, and that is enough! It is your responsibility to know who qualifies where. There are 924 player labels, and plenty of blanks. Since it really doesn't matter where you are selecting a player at until it gets towards the end, you shouldn't have any trouble with color coding. I don't think you even have to declare what position you are selecting a player at, as long as you have a legal team at the end.

Draftboard Guy · Post by **Draftboard Guy** » Wed Mar 10, 2004 2:50 am

As an addendum to the previous post, there are a few exceptions to the printing of player labels "at the position they played at most last year" when they are eleigible at multiple positions. What I did was use a little common sense and figure that if anyone drafts Craig Wilson, it's probably not going to be as a first baseman or an outfielder. So he is printed as a catcher, where he would probably be drafted. Others like this are LeCroy, Wooten, Marrero, and Jason Phillips. All are printed as catchers. Kaz Matsui is printed as a SS. Hopes this helps to clarify things a little. Jeff Peters FJ Fantasy Sports

Top Dawg · Post by **Top Dawg** » Wed Mar 10, 2004 5:00 am

Draftboard guy - Just a "heads-up"... Wooten and Marrero did not play enough games last year at catcher to qualify there. Maybe I have the rules all confused in my little head....

Pete

seefer · Post by **seefer** » Wed Mar 10, 2004 5:31 am

As far as I see Top Dawg has it right. Marrero only qualifies at OF. Poor Wooten, he missed qualifying at C by 1 game and 3B by 3 games. So, isn't Top Dawg right in that they won't be eligible at C?

[ March 10, 2004, 11:32 AM: Message edited by: seefer ]

King of Queens · Post by **King of Queens** » Wed Mar 10, 2004 5:39 am

Correct.

Draftboard Guy · Post by **Draftboard Guy** » Wed Mar 10, 2004 5:44 am

Depends on what eligibility requirements there are. As I said earlier, I DO NOT tailor these labels for every different league I supply. Otherwise I would have thousands of spreadsheets instead of only 93. These catchers I talked about all have 10 games of eligibility, which is most common in fantasy baseball. I tried to explain that a guy like Kaz Matsui, who has never played an MLB game, is printed as a SS, because that's what he is. It shouldn't matter what a player is printed as, as several times in every draft, owners juggle what position they will use a multiple-eligible player at. And you do not have to declare a position when you pick a guy. It just has to work out right at the end. And besides, what good are labels if half the players are designated as "Utility"? Remember that the draft board itself is not the law here. It is a visual aid. You alone are responsible for picking a legal team.

seefer · Post by **seefer** » Wed Mar 10, 2004 5:46 am

Eli Marrero only played 6 games at C last season.

cfolson · Post by **cfolson** » Mon Mar 22, 2004 12:42 pm

Greg wrote:

If Urbina still isn't on a major league team by our Draft Day, he will be allowed to be drafted by anyone in the NFBC and he will be allowed to be bid on by anyone in the Auction Leagues. If he still isn't signed by Opening Day, you can definitely keep him on your reserve roster in both events. He's obviously a free agent gamble, but if he signs with the right team he could be a good gamble. I think it's almost too late for him to go to Japan and does he really want to sit out a year? But it's unlikely he's going to get a multi-year contract, which is what he wants.

In the Las Vegas auction league, Urbina was bid on (and won by my team). This was overturned by Greg shortly afterwards, but the above ruling indicates that I should have been allowed to buy him. I note that he was auctioned in the New York auction league and kept...

seefer · Post by **seefer** » Mon Mar 22, 2004 3:43 pm

I was in the NL Auction and Greg told us that Urbina could only be picked as a reserve since he was not currently on any 40 man roster. He was not allowed to be bid on in our auction.

Dyv · Post by **Dyv** » Mon Mar 22, 2004 6:44 pm

The only saving grace here (IMHO) is that there is no overall auction contest. SO, let me be the first to propose that the NYC auction has 1 set of rules which obviously allowed Urbina being bid and bought and the Vegas AL and NL should use the stricter rules that Greg advised us of at the draft.

Have to keep it consistent among the contestants at each draft - so let's just call them variants on the rules to 'see how it works out' for next year and move on. No practical way to do a makeup that I can think of...

Although I knew we were right about the post during the draft

Greg - you owe all the auction teams from Vegas another drink now!

Dyv

King of Queens · Post by **King of Queens** » Tue Mar 23, 2004 1:03 am

I was happy to get Urbina for the cut rate price of $2. After reading this thread, I suppose I should feel lucky that I got him at all. Now all he needs to do is sign with Minnesota or Cleveland!

I don't understand what the mixup was in Las Vegas. We had a discussion about this last week, basically saying it was unfair for Urbina to fall to the reserve (gives too much of an advantage to the team with the first reserve pick). What was unclear about it?