Pre-Mag Mock Draftl

Mr Dalrae · Post by **Mr Dalrae** » Thu Nov 30, 2006 3:03 am

Round 14 Pick 2 I will take Randy Winn

Kimo · Post by **Kimo** » Thu Nov 30, 2006 3:51 am

Kevin Millwood.

Edwards Kings · Post by **Edwards Kings** » Thu Nov 30, 2006 4:02 am

Originally posted by Kimo:

Kevin Millwood. Ouch! That hurts Jim....

BEF · Post by **BEF** » Thu Nov 30, 2006 5:01 am

I really struggled with 14-4, and I'd welcome some feedback on my pick: Scott Olsen.

My logic: he's got the highest K/9 ratio (along with a decent ERA/WHIP) of any healthy starter (150+ IP) still available. But is 14th round a reach? Would he have made it to pick 15-12? My other choice would have been an outfielder, as I've only got 3 right now (Abreu/Berkman/Pierre). Olsen becomes my third starter after Halladay/Kazmir.

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Vander · Post by **Vander** » Thu Nov 30, 2006 5:14 am

I think Olsen should go here. He's not money in the bank but non are at this point. I usually don't like softmore players, but he was good last year and has talent. The better pitchers have already been taken. I don't know how other drafts will go. The way this is going says he belongs right where you took him. he certainly was coming up on my list along with a few others like him.

headhunters · Post by **headhunters** » Thu Nov 30, 2006 5:26 am

my 2 cents ( from a guy whose total fantasy baseball experience is 1 satelite last year and 5 years in a nl only auction league) is: there are many returning rookie pitchers and hitters. i really do think the many sophmores regress. i had both webb and duke as cheap rookies and they both regressed mightily there second years. i expect many of these will. weaver and hamels will go higher than the rest. i was thinking of olsen in this round- and since probably 10-15 pitchers will be taken between now and my 15th round pick- i would have definately taken olsen in 15th round. with so many young pitchers doing well- you will find 3 different fantasy players- grab as many as i can, stay away, or look for 1 or 2 to round out my staff. i look at his #'s and say he is a good pitcher- and will be for awhile. any thoughts from the more experienced players?

Kimo · Post by **Kimo** » Thu Nov 30, 2006 6:22 am

Originally posted by Edwards Kings:

quote:Originally posted by Kimo:

Kevin Millwood. Ouch! That hurts Jim....

[/QUOTE]I think Millwood is a solid pick here. I could see him going around the 13th or 15th round. Rangers sure lost a lot of players. It will be interesting to see who takes their place.

Scott Olson. It is a good pick. I was thinking about going with Olson before Millwood. The sophmore jinx. I guess its to see if the hitters figure them out in their second year. I know he pitched very well over the last two months of the season.

Dak · Post by **Dak** » Thu Nov 30, 2006 6:45 am

Originally posted by Kimo:

quote:Originally posted by Edwards Kings:

quote:Originally posted by Kimo:

Kevin Millwood. Ouch! That hurts Jim....

[/QUOTE]I think Millwood is a solid pick here. I could see him going around the 13th or 15th round. Rangers sure lost a lot of players. It will be interesting to see who takes their place.

Scott Olson. It is a good pick. I was thinking about going with Olson before Millwood. The sophmore jinx. I guess its to see if the hitters figure them out in their second year. I know he pitched very well over the last two months of the season. [/QUOTE]Millwood was on my short list (next pick) also. Was going to PM him. IMHO a big dropoff after him.

Dak · Post by **Dak** » Thu Nov 30, 2006 6:48 am

Never Mind!

[ November 30, 2006, 12:58 PM: Message edited by: Dak ]

KJ Duke · Post by **KJ Duke** » Thu Nov 30, 2006 6:56 am

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Dak · Post by **Dak** » Thu Nov 30, 2006 6:58 am

[Sorry 'bout that!!!!!

KJ Duke · Post by **KJ Duke** » Thu Nov 30, 2006 7:09 am

[ December 01, 2006, 01:17 PM: Message edited by: KJ Duke ]

Chest Rockwell · Post by **Chest Rockwell** » Thu Nov 30, 2006 7:11 am

I like the Olsen pick- he would have been my pick if he would have gotten to me. Not a big Millwood guy-

Dak · Post by **Dak** » Thu Nov 30, 2006 7:30 am

Not exactly a Millwood fan either - but we're talking 14th rd and just about 200 players gone. Believe 15 wins, 200 innings, 160 k, and 1.25 whip is not bad at this point - and probably a "safer" pick than what is left. Wish he was out of Texas tho.

RawTalent · Post by **RawTalent** » Thu Nov 30, 2006 7:47 am

14-5: SP John Garland

RT

Edwards Kings · Post by **Edwards Kings** » Thu Nov 30, 2006 7:54 am

Millwood has really solidified into a great player to lock into your rotation. Solid and at times spectacular. His ballpark is an issue as his ERA was better than 1.5 runs lower on the road with a road WHIP under 1.2.

He did not have much luck last year. The games I watched, it appeared to me he gave up a lot of runs in the last inning he was put out there (i.e. could they have overused him a bit). I know that if a pitcher gives up four runs or more, there should be little expectation of getting a win, but you would think your team would give you extra support sometimes and you might get lucky a time or two during the year. Millwood gave up 4+ eleven times last year and was 0-9 with two ND.

So, two thirds of his games (home or road) were where he gave up three runs or less. His record in those games was 16-3 with four ND. You would of course expect him to win most of those, but given he is still in his prime, has survived (16 W and 157 K) in Texas, and is giving quality starts in two-thirds of his games, I think he is a good value pick here. Not too risky.

Chest Rockwell · Post by **Chest Rockwell** » Thu Nov 30, 2006 8:03 am

Originally posted by Edwards Kings:

Millwood has really solidified into a great player to lock into your rotation. Solid and at times spectacular. His ballpark is an issue as his ERA was better than 1.5 runs lower on the road with a road WHIP under 1.2.

He did not have much luck last year. The games I watched, it appeared to me he gave up a lot of runs in the last inning he was put out there (i.e. could they have overused him a bit). I know that if a pitcher gives up four runs or more, there should be little expectation of getting a win, but you would think your team would give you extra support sometimes and you might get lucky a time or two during the year. Millwood gave up 4+ eleven times last year and was 0-9 with two ND.

So, two thirds of his games (home or road) were where he gave up three runs or less. His record in those games was 16-3 with four ND. You would of course expect him to win most of those, but given he is still in his prime, has survived (16 W and 157 K) in Texas, and is giving quality starts in two-thirds of his games, I think he is a good value pick here. Not too risky. Wayne- One question for you- why in the hell are you so bad at this event? Your info is often times the best on this board IMO- Good info that changes my opinion on Millwood a bit. Appreciate the insight.

KJ Duke · Post by **KJ Duke** » Thu Nov 30, 2006 8:03 am

14-6 David Ross

Tradesman Kettleers · Post by **Tradesman Kettleers** » Thu Nov 30, 2006 8:27 am

14-7, B.J. Upton (?), Tampa Bay Devil Rays..need a SB guy.

BEF · Post by **BEF** » Thu Nov 30, 2006 8:35 am

Originally posted by Tradesman Kettleers:

14-7, B.J. Upton (?), Tampa Bay Devil Rays..need a SB guy. I didn't realize we were includng Triple A rosters in this draft...

I figure Tampa will simply have a Gladiator-like competition among Upton, Longoria, Wiggington, maybe Joel Guzman, and the last man standing gets the gig.

GOD Loves You · Post by **GOD Loves You** » Thu Nov 30, 2006 8:46 am

Originally posted by BEF:

quote:Originally posted by Tradesman Kettleers:

14-7, B.J. Upton (?), Tampa Bay Devil Rays..need a SB guy. I didn't realize we were includng Triple A rosters in this draft...

I figure Tampa will simply have a Gladiator-like competition among Upton, Longoria, Wiggington, maybe Joel Guzman, and the last man standing gets the gig. [/QUOTE]Don't forget 3B Akinori Iwamura, whom the D-rays won the rights to negotiate with.

headhunters · Post by **headhunters** » Thu Nov 30, 2006 8:52 am

upton will play somewhere- and steal 30-35 bases. if gomes comes out hitting- he will dh. if not one of those guys will.

Brad Vo · Post by **Brad Vo** » Thu Nov 30, 2006 9:00 am

14-8

Ken Griffy jr.

Brad Vo · Post by **Brad Vo** » Thu Nov 30, 2006 9:02 am

Originally posted by Brad Vo:

14-8

Ken Griffy jr. 14-8 Ken Griffey Jr.

headhunters · Post by **headhunters** » Thu Nov 30, 2006 9:29 am

anthony reyes